California Decriminalization Proposition on November ballot

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uggmaster

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Wow. I look away for a few days and theres a full on war in the thread. I meant to say yes on 5 and no on 8. My bad.
But frankly this isn't a website about gay rights. Its a site about growing and using marijuana and as such I agree with everyone who would like to redirect conversation to the pertinent topic, proposition 5.

Someone mentioned that Prop. 5 isn't limited to marijuana and as such it can get meth dealers out of prison and other drug offenders that even we on RUI might deem undesirables. But i still think that generally reducing the punishment for all drug offenders is a good idea.

I'm surprised that we could afford to imprison all of these people for as long as we have. Its just not fiscally viable to keep drugs illegal. Millions can be made from taxing them and millions saved by not prosecuting and imprisoning every drug user,dealer and producer. Follow the money if nothing else.
 
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fdd2blk

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Seamaiden said:
But will you vote in favor of it nonetheless, despite hard factual information?
Seriously, why the refusal to simply be a little better educated and informed?
I am almost never "too stoned" for this level of reading, unless I'm asleep. :lol:
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i got this far and stopped again. you chose to insult my from the beginning. i don't listen to people who stoop to name calling. try a new approach next time. and the rambling is just that. i understand short single statements. i told you this last week. all this deep thinking gives me a headache. i'm a "simple man". :eyesmoke::eyesmoke:


my vote is my choice. vote however you want but stay outta my booth. :bigjoint::blsmoke:
 
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fdd2blk

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uggmaster said:
Wow. I look away for a few days and theres a full on war in the thread. I meant to say yes on 5 and no on 8. My bad.
But frankly this isn't a website about gay rights. Its a site about growing and using marijuana and as such I agree with everyone who would like to redirect conversation to the pertinent topic, proposition 5.

Someone mentioned that Prop. 5 isn't limited to marijuana and as such it can get meth dealers out of prison and other drug offenders that even we on RUI might deem undesirables. But i still think that generally reducing the punishment for all drug offenders is a good idea.

I'm surprised that we could afford to imprison all of these people for as long as we have. Its just not fiscally viable to keep drugs illegal. Millions can be made from taxing them and millions saved by not prosecuting and imprisoning every drug user,dealer and producer. Follow the money if nothing else.
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i was stuck on meth once. all i needed was a little help and i'm all good now. haven't touched it in 6 years. meth heads are people too. :bigjoint:




YES ON 5. bongsmiliebongsmilie
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
fdd2blk said:
i got this far and stopped again. you chose to insult my from the beginning. i don't listen to people who stoop to name calling. try a new approach next time. and the rambling is just that. i understand short single statements. i told you this last week. all this deep thinking gives me a headache. i'm a "simple man". :eyesmoke::eyesmoke:


my vote is my choice. vote however you want but stay outta my booth. :bigjoint::blsmoke:
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Where did I call names? I made observations, based upon posts and put it out there. I think you stopped reading for other reasons. This is too bad, because I put in some good factual information, including some that's pertinent to your particular situation. You also missed some other stuff, but it's still there for you to read if you feel so inclined.

If you feel inclined to speak up on how you think others should vote, don't be offended if someone disagrees and is able to make an argument as to why. If I proffer up an opinion, I try to make sure I can back it up, honestly, wherever it falls.

I will be voting in favor of Prop. 5, and probably Prop. 2 (I think that's the farm animal one). Prop. 6 seems to address methamphetamine use, but it's mixed in with gang-related stuff, mostly tacking on time when someone's associated with a gang or using meth. And I don't think I'm quite there yet, thinking that just because someone is affiliated with a gang their equal crime (let's take an armed robbery, for example) is any worse or deserving of greater punishment than someone else's, someone who is not affiliated with a gang. My mind is in the same place with regards to meth sentencing. Why should someone who was high on meth and carjacked someone, for instance, pay a higher price to society simply because they were high on meth? Isn't carjacking just as serious a crime in both instances?
 
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fdd2blk

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Seamaiden said:
Where did I call names? I made observations, based upon posts and put it out there. I think you stopped reading for other reasons. This is too bad, because I put in some good factual information, including some that's pertinent to your particular situation. You also missed some other stuff, but it's still there for you to read if you feel so inclined.

If you feel inclined to speak up on how you think others should vote, don't be offended if someone disagrees and is able to make an argument as to why. If I proffer up an opinion, I try to make sure I can back it up, honestly, wherever it falls.

I will be voting in favor of Prop. 5, and probably Prop. 2 (I think that's the farm animal one). Prop. 6 seems to address methamphetamine use, but it's mixed in with gang-related stuff, mostly tacking on time when someone's associated with a gang or using meth. And I don't think I'm quite there yet, thinking that just because someone is affiliated with a gang their equal crime (let's take an armed robbery, for example) is any worse or deserving of greater punishment than someone else's, someone who is not affiliated with a gang. My mind is in the same place with regards to meth sentencing. Why should someone who was high on meth and carjacked someone, for instance, pay a higher price to society simply because they were high on meth? Isn't carjacking just as serious a crime in both instances?
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are you outta dope? i never told ANYONE how to vote. you did. you still are. you called me names. even admitted to it. pretty little pic and everything. insult me and I'M DONE WITH YOU. sheesh. :roll:
 
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