California Decriminalization Proposition on November ballot

uggmaster

Active Member
Did none of you registered California voters out there read your voter pamphlets yet? :wall:

Proposition 5 in the November 2008 California elections reduces possession of less than an ounce of marijuana to an infraction, like a traffic ticket, instead of a misdemeanor. It also diverts non-violent drug offenders out of prison and into drug treatment programs.

The net fiscal effect is projected to be positive with a cost of about $1 billion to set up more drug treatment facilities that is offset by the $1 billion saved by not incarcerating all of these people.

Read it for yourself: California Proposition 5 (2008) - Ballotpedia

I think it's a step in the right direction, less money spent to imprison stoners, even if it means more money wasted to attempt to educate them.
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
And PLEASE vote down Prop. 8. I'm pissed enough as it is that it actually got onto the ballot, so let's please vote it down. It's unconstitutional to take away rights in my opinion.
 

sb101

Well-Known Member
already read everything, but thanks for the public service announcement even through all the condensation, i understand your wanting to educate the public :eyesmoke:

VOTE YES on the high speed rail!!! i want to be able to get from LA to SF without dealing with airport BS!
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
I thought gay marriage was already legal in CA? There was all that stuff about George Takai and Ellen both getting married to their S/O's?

Gays should be allowed to marry and they should not be discriminated against by adoption agencies. Gays aren't known as breeders and there are plenty of kids that need adopted that gay couples would like to parent. I see it as a win/win. The world is overpopulated as it is.
 

Alpine farmer

New Member
I thought gay marriage was already legal in CA? There was all that stuff about George Takai and Ellen both getting married to their S/O's?

Gays should be allowed to marry and they should not be discriminated against by adoption agencies. Gays aren't known as breeders and there are plenty of kids that need adopted that gay couples would like to parent. I see it as a win/win. The world is overpopulated as it is.
ty i love you.

and it was then it got banned
 

GrowTech

stays relevant.
marijuana isn't the only drug im sure this has to do with. :\ yes 2 gay marriages though, they have just as much right to marry as straight.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
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fdd that pisses me off.

what the fuck does it matter if gays get married..


come the fuck on...



it doesnt..

be more open minded..


(sorry had to go off my moms gay)
i don't think it really needs to be taught in sex ed class. why wife and wife or husband and husband? men and women make babies. men and women become married to make babies (traditionally). it's kinda the law of nature. call me old fashioned. :peace:

you don't have the right to bash me on the way i vote. i could rebut you with a bunch of gay bashing if you wish. :cuss:
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
Indeed yes on 8 and no on 5 is my vote and i hope enough of you agree to make something happen.
WHAT? Did you actually read the measures? Because if you're saying that you think that people should still have mj offenses as more serious "crimes", misdemeanor instead of being reduced to an infraction, that's what voting no on 5 is. And if you're saying that we should make a constitutional amendment disallowing same-sex marriage, that's what voting yes on 8 is.
....

fdd that pisses me off.

what the fuck does it matter if gays get married..


come the fuck on...



it doesnt..

be more open minded..


(sorry had to go off my moms gay)
If you vote in favor of Prop. 8 then you're voting to make a constitutional amendment that makes same-sex marriages illegal. I have not yet gotten to Prop. 8 (I'm on 6 right now), so I haven't yet read the language. Dave was telling me last night that this was in response to the SC ruling not only on same-sex marriage constitutionality, but that it went further to say that churches that refuse to marry partners of the same sex will lose their tax-exempt status. I figure WHY NOT? Our state is broke and has to borrow money from the feds, we've got churches that are practically cities, why not have them kick into the general fund kitty now? Can you guess which way I'll be voting?
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
WHAT? Did you actually read the measures? Because if you're saying that you think that people should still have mj offenses as more serious "crimes", misdemeanor instead of being reduced to an infraction, that's what voting no on 5 is. And if you're saying that we should make a constitutional amendment disallowing same-sex marriage, that's what voting yes on 8 is.

If you vote in favor of Prop. 8 then you're voting to make a constitutional amendment that makes same-sex marriages illegal. I have not yet gotten to Prop. 8 (I'm on 6 right now), so I haven't yet read the language. Dave was telling me last night that this was in response to the SC ruling not only on same-sex marriage constitutionality, but that it went further to say that churches that refuse to marry partners of the same sex will lose their tax-exempt status. I figure WHY NOT? Our state is broke and has to borrow money from the feds, we've got churches that are practically cities, why not have them kick into the general fund kitty now? Can you guess which way I'll be voting?


YES ON 8!!


oh yeah, a few gay marriages are gonna save the economy. :roll::roll::roll:

california pot growers offered the arnold 1 BILLION dollars and he ignored them. Marijuana Dealers/Growers Offer Schwarzenegger One Billion Dollars | United States | Cannabis News

if it were about money wouldn't he have listened? legalize pot before we worry about who's banging who. :cuss:
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
i'm in a 20 year relationship. there is no common law in cali. my wife visits me in the hospital. i just broke my leg and she was standing right next to my bed. we share the same medical insurance policy. we pay the same bills. being married legally or not doesn't mean a whole lot. i'm not missing out on anything, niether is my "wife".
 
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