Cali Connection - To spend or not ot spend money on those seeds?

Just watched the weed nerd and heard a fewthings about those guys. The threads i've been reading on several forum are pretty mixed and i've came across some great knowledge on this forum including bad ass breeder. Now Cali connection have a few strain that are interesting to me: Original Sour D/Sour Og/Girl Scout Cookie/Pre98-Bubba/Deadhead Og/Larry Og/Tahoe "the infamous" Og.

I was thinking of picking up a couple of seeds of each strain to select 3 of them and make a more serious run. I like frutty strains but beside cheese that's my favorite strain i dig those us strains but being in europe no dispensary and no clones for me. You guys have no idea how lucky you are!

If anyone has had an experience with those strains please lt me know. I've read a lot about herms but if the genetic really is what he say it is i'm watching my plants everyday i'm ready to risk a late nanner for some of that taste...

Cheers!

CALi connect hermed on me. I have heard others having this same problem. Stick with TGA FTW!

There are far far better breeders to spend your money on.

The only other stuff in my garden thats not TGA is an LA confidential plant from DNA. I bought a pack at the Dam. Its pretty good medicine at least thats what all the sick peeps i donate stuff to have told me. But if you want fruity strains TGA is what i would spend my money on. I have a 3d that tastes like pineapples You really get the taste of the rainbow. If you like making your own bubble Your sure to find a winner in a 10 pack or even a 5 pack.

If you want real OG hybrids, i would only look at archive seed bank...

but then again.. how many times are people going to keep trying to reinvent the wheel...

DNA does good stuff. I wish they would stop focusing so much on femmed seeds, though.

Subcool is a far better breeder to get your seeds from. If you use super soil and any TGA genetics you will get the best meds you have ever grown. The thing about TGA is he has worried more about putting out great stable genetics than any other breeder I know of. If it is not going to be the best of the best Sub will not put his name on it. I know for a fact he has strains in his garden that are better than 90% of what you can get anywhere else but he still not take the strain out of testing until its been perfected. I have purchased well over 50 packs of seeds from TGA and I have never had one Herm. One time I only got one female out of a pack and I wasn't even asking for a refund and he gave me 3 packs to make up for it. I know I wasn't happy a coupe months ago with not getting a email response from Sub but I apologized immediately. You just will not get better genetics anywhere. I will say for a big biz breeder that has tons of stuff going on DNA is top notch. DNA has the same philosophy as Sub, they want to give everyone the chance to have the elite genetics and even though they make great cash it's still and always was about us. I was at the Cup in Richmond last week and if you have not seen or heard of TGA's new Dr.Who you need to get it when you can. I am clearing all my rooms to have nothing but Dr.Who from TGA and Tangie from DNA. The Dr.Who has 4 phenos and everyone of them is absolutely mind blowing in every way. It's Trainwreck X Mad Scientist. There is a purple tint to one of them and its super frosty frosty frosty! One pheno is all green but again it looks like its dipped in powered sugar. Dr. who might be one if his top 5 strains he has released.
it does well outdoors to. I saw pics of a huts garden who brought pics to the cup and he had massive huge bushes of crystal ccovered buds that were like logs. And then the Tangie by DNA is so good tasting and the smell is like a bag of oranges. Its also great indoors and out and it makes super Fire hash and BHO. You can tell how jacked up I am about these two strains by how long I can go on and on about them. I haven't stopped my entire grow to clear everything out for a strain since I got a cut of Cherry pie 8 years ago. These are game changers. I will bet the emerald cup will be brought home by a Organic Tangie or the Dr.Who if its done correctly.
So to answer your question, Cali Connection has some decent genetics but nothing like TGA.

not to knock subcool, but his strains are definately not known for stability. they are known for having a great deal of different phenotypes. not nescessarily a bad thing for people that want to hunt for a realy good one. theres some good stuff in there.

Thanks a lot for all the answers, @Montana actually the only thing i "regret" with TGA is that his strain are too fruity... I like fruity strain but Kushes and Diesel have that taste that make me think "how beautifull is cannabis with it's many unbelivable taste and smell" - dont get me started on cheese haha - while fruity strains are more of a "i can expect that from a plant" type of taste. The hazey type of strains well we've been spoiled lately in europe with those and the Kaboom pheno i had where amazing but to hazy to my taste.

I've kept the more rotten fruit pheno - lost a crystal covered hazey babby poo pinneaple one though - and will run it as soon as the clone get's a decent size. I'm effrayed to try TGA's bubba as i feel the kush will be overpowered by the fruittyness of TGA.

About DNA and RP i've digged their genetic for a long time, i know you guys dont like the feminized and the more i get into the weed nerd movement the more i get it but still when being in my condition as far as law and space they come handy, especially to have a try at different strain to figure out what you like and then running them on reg in packs - got Kosher, finishing chocolope -pretty impressed and definetely growing chocolate rain very soon- and stacked Kush - this one i cant wait to make hash with!
Exodus Kush/holy grail kush are coming. Sour Diesel was good but nothing like the old school sour diesel to me - tasted more like silver bubble: "the Dam" weed I kept a sour kush pheno for more than a year now though, not a big yielder but amazing buds and a great hash!

@myfather i've checked out the breeder you've suggested but they're out of stock appreciate the imput though...you guys in the forum showed me quiet a lot of new amazing breeder as i said.

I guess i might just get Original Sour D and the bubba from those guy's to see what's up but, with limited space i can't afford to waste any on "average" genetics and when Sub says he's been dissapointed with Rare Dankness - Joey Diaz spoke about two of their OG saying they were too strong...- I guess i'll go with Soma NYCD to try to get back to that Diesel taste - even though i've heard his diesel is more the fruitty one and not the diesel one.

If anyone could recommend good breeders to get closer to those old school US strains we dont really get in europe? RP/DNA make a good job as i said but their goal isnt to come up with those strains rather to come up wiht their own crosses - they should keep doing so as those are awesome!
I definetly will get a run at a few sannies, they too have some amazing genetic in seed form! Will try the Cheese and Tahoe from Big Budha seed again to see if their legit or dissapointing - green place grew that tahoe and several UK grower that i know told me BB cheese was legit not as good as kaliman but still pretty good. Will try out a couple of conoisseur seed as well now that i wont run so many cali connection. Conoisseur makes it sound like the worst newbie seed bank but they seems to carry some bad ass cut - grey area casey jones...

About TGA i'll definetly go back to that but i like to make runs with different fems seed, it get me bud stock that allow me to pheno hunt on regular packs, and allow me to test strain and switch things a bit in my grow.
With TGA i pretty much need to dedicate my entire tent to 8/10 smaller sized plant "hopping" 4 will be males to get a good grow, the difference in phenotype is awesome i've got to say but it pushes the selected pheno harvest 2/3 month away hence the need for stock but yeah AOS CheeseQuake Jesus Og Timewreck and Vortex definetely are on my list - i'll have an other run at a 13 in the future but i might not be there yet when sub says he's still figuring her out. I guess me switching to super soil will make htings easier. Just switching to Batmix with minimal nutes already puts me closer to the best harvest i've ever had as far as taste and crystal production...

Thanks again for the info Nerds much appreciated!

If anyone could recommend good breeders to get closer to those old school US strains we dont really get in europe?

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I grew the Cali Buddha Tahoe OG. The buds remind me of the old school couch-lock, super-hard, sticky-like-flypaper indica strains of the 1980s, but much less skunky. I've been hitting it as my bedtime smoke, but it is really kinda boring to me in high, flavor, and smell. I prefer big flavor and a sativa high these days. Here are some pictures of my plant:

https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog28595-budda-tahoe-og.html

I also grew Cali's Deadhead OG. (As a Deadhead who smoked lots of great weed on tour, I could not resist trying it.) Looking at pixs on the web, I'm not sure my pheno was representative. Very light yielder with airy buds, but also the most resin covered plant I've ever grown. It is still drying, but I did have a small taste of it and a taste of a Space Dawg plant harvested at the same time. The Space Dawg blew it away it terms of flavor and potency. However, I expect them both to improve with drying and curing, so I'll post an update in my journal in the near future.

The most "old school" indica stain I've grown was the Cheese from Greenhouse. I know they are not the most popular folks around here, but their Cheese and Exodus Cheese are both very good (as are some of their other strains), you can get them in Europe easily, and their prices are lower than a lot of other seed companies.

Remember they are just seeds so keep that in mind. I'll pay round 10-12 a bean but 18+ bucks a seed is bullshit. Plus your most likely getting lesser genetics than you could have gotten for the money. Ganj

i have grown seeds from green house, paradise, tga, and nirvana (im currently running through some cali connection and mr. nice but nothing interesting to report thus far). i ran a ten pack of chem dawg from green house and it sucked. i ran a 10 pack of pandora from paradise and it sucked (what was i thinking when i tried an autoflower? i wasnt...) from nirvana i have run wonder woman and i liked it a lot. i would still be running it today but about 2 years ago i got powerdy mildew and to solve the problem i destroyed every plant i had and started fresh from seed, which in my humble opinion is the best/only way to deal with mold or mites.

now about tga.... i have tried somewhere between 6 and 10 different strains and only space bomb gave me plants not worth running again.

Thanks again for the imput.

The Tahoe looked good, fat indica leaves and those buds seemed really dense, as i said i might go with a few seeds from cali and make my own opinion.

I started growing green house seeds, as i've said in an other thread they use to be one of the best coffee shop in dam and they still hold some good hash today. Weed is crap though except for the hawaiian snow...
As far as the seed bank i grew several strains and i did have a good pheno on a cheese but that was a one thing the rest didnt tasted much. A friend of mine who's british told me the exodus was pretty good but i'm growing blue cheese at the moment will try the big budha to see how it is if i had to do a serious cheese pheno hunt i guess it would be with kaliman seeds...

TGA and Reserva/DNA are my go to breeders i like the kushes from DNA but they went so far from the original with there crosses that i feel abit bummed out - put that in perspective cant wait to smoke exodus kush - but again running a TGA packs - or any regular seeds - means smoking nothing but that strain if i dont have stock around but soon enough i'll be running sannies or TGA regs...

I dont really care on paying more than 10/15 bucks on a seed as i found them to be a good investment. I know that seeds come by the hundred from a plant but you gotta pay for the best stuff around. I would grow trainwreck from GH as a cash crop but i'm not interested in growing those type of strain, it's all about the taste for me.
I'm not really a all indica guy either but again all the taste i like from cannabis mostly come from those. I actually like both kind of high and do like to smoke different strain at different time of the day and alternate between them, too much of indica or sativa is not a good thing in it's own way.

Well at least one of you on that trusted forum have grown some cali and isnt screaming to stay away from those beans so that will be a green light for them. I might chage my plan though and just get a few seed from them and redirect my money towards soma NYC - that's a seed that's to expensive but i fell in love with NYC in dam 7 years ago and never found it again hehe - and a couple of fem from conoisseur.

Again , thanks for the imput really appreciated!

In amsterdam you can get all the seeds as regulars from the shop. You cant even do that at any of the seed banks. I should have gotten a couple more packs of other things but maybe next time. It was nice 13 reg seeds in a pack. I fucked up and left a couple packs on the tram and lost them. I had to go back and get more. Really sucked they where like 90 Euros a pack.

Mithrandir420 said:

DNA does good stuff. I wish they would stop focusing so much on femmed seeds, though.

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I have grown out both the Ripped Bubba and the Qush from tga and i can say that theres stuff that isnt overpowered by the fruity of the TGA I had two pretty dom bubba in the Ripped Bubba I popped 3 seeds out of a 5 pack and both where pretty bubba dom very good yielders. I especially liked the qush tho it was good medicine. I had one that turned super purple at temps above 70 and was like cherry kush flavored. For anyone that likes the cheeses gotta go with cheesequake. I hadnt had a good cheese here in montana with the good cheese flavor until i went over to amsterdam. All the cheese here i just didnt get it what was with the cheese smell cause it never had it. But in the Dam I got some cheese and was like yeah now i get it. It just so had it that i was already growing out cheesequake when i left to amsterdam to the cup and was pretty excited. Totally got a rock hard nug producing cheesequake thats totally cherry cream cheese danish.

Yeah cheesequake is on my list for sure, TGA runs coming very soon haha 2 of each crossing fingers again just to figure out in the pool what i like most

Thanks everyone for keeping it polite and all the people recommending TGA gear.
That might be why all the heavy weight breeders want to put there best moms in a room with Space Dude and play some waka waka type music

Sub

I'm reading at your signature and just wich you'd made those fem seeds, i know it'll never happen though haha

No Fems No Auto Flowers Old School Breeding the way it's been done for eons.
It's How The Indians made corn ya know!

Sub

I hear you sir