cal mag or something of

how many bottles do you have? which bottles? do you have?

just give me the 3 numbers listed for npk for each of the bottles you have

but the pics would be better

Diskokobaja said:

my other girls.. same nutes same water same molasses..

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A lot of wasted room there mate.

budman111 said:

A lot of wasted room there mate.

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I dont get it.. i have 3 more,they were out of the tent when i photo this..
@im4satori I got all bottles from that chart plus rhino skin(silica).. Cant get to bottles now .I will put it tommorow.. I gave them plain water tonight.. here is the troubled one..

ok
so im very sure your likely mixing your nutes in a way that's giving you trouble

whenever you see someone using that many different bottles and also following feed charts closely its almost always severely off

the feed charts and there formulas are built to sell you as many bottles as they can

take the time to post the info in an easy and organized way (think bullet points) and I will spend some time helping you sort out how to mix it proper

the nutes are good nutes but theyre just bad instructions on how to mix them

also
I browsed back to find your soil mix.. didn't see it
what type soil is it?

Diskokobaja, it's important to know what soil you're growing in, whether it has nutrients, and you have to give that info here so people can help you better. I asked a long time ago what soil are you using but you didn't answer. Please tell us what soil you are using. With all the stuff you're giving, I suspect you are over ferting these plants, especially if you're using a soil that has a lot of fert in it already. Read the labels carefully and know what you're using.

so I thnk I found all your gear

please confirm

part A 3-0-0
part B 1-2-6
over drive 1-5-4

this 3 things along with calmag and Epsom salt is all you need... don't use anything else
full strength
veg
10mls part A
10 mls part B
? mls calmag
? Epsom salt

bloom
7mls part A
7mls part B
5mls overdrive
? mls calmag
? Epsom salt

youll need to sort out how much calmag and Epsom salt you need
I don't have the info from the product labels for the calcium and magnesium and im not sure its listed on the bottle the way it should be
if its listed and you provide it I can tell you how much calmag and Epsom salt youll want

but a good place to start is
4mls calmag and 1/4 tsp Epsom salt per gallon

don't add any other products and always mix it just like this

every other watering

for a stronger ppm mix it the same with slightly less water
for a weaker ppm mix it the same way with slightly more water

if you want to use the b52 cuz you have it (but you don't need it)
per gallon full strenght
veg
9mls part A
9mla part b
2mls b52
calmag ?
Epsom ?

bloom
6mls part A
6mls part B
5mls overdrive
2mls b52
calmag?
Epsom ?

theres no need what so ever to use both the big bud and the over drive... one bloom booster is enough

the overdrive has a higher p ratio than the big bud so for your mix it works better

theres not really a need to use silica but if your damned on using it tell me the K% and Si % on the bottle and I will see if it can be worked in without much trouble

Those plants look like shit no offense. I agree with the other guys you need to give clean water to get rid of excess nutes and salts and then start feeding again. leaves don't claw down in a healthy plant even when they are finished. They look like they will give you fake "big buds". they look good in size but when they dry they will be airy and not compacted together like they should be. I don't even use any big bud type stuff >_>'

im4satori said:

ok
so im very sure your likely mixing your nutes in a way that's giving you trouble

whenever you see someone using that many different bottles and also following feed charts closely its almost always severely off

the feed charts and there formulas are built to sell you as many bottles as they can

take the time to post the info in an easy and organized way (think bullet points) and I will spend some time helping you sort out how to mix it proper

the nutes are good nutes but theyre just bad instructions on how to mix them

also
I browsed back to find your soil mix.. didn't see it
what type soil is it?

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Recipe-No.: 047
pH-value (CaCl2): 6.0
Fertilization (g/l): 1.5
Structure: fine
Use for: Vegetable and tobacco seedlings



I dont wanna sound cocky or anything but I dont know how we come in place that nutes are problem? my last grow was with same nutes same soil,same mixing except I didnt use molasses instead carbolad and calmag.,.. I didnt have any issues on 5 girls.. If were to mixing and adding nutes wouldnt some kind of simptoms be visible earlier?
Reccomended doses from an are 4ml of base nutes and 2ml of additional nutes.. i never go full mope coz i been tout that way.. I start with 50% of max dose, and I hardly ever go with full doses of AB part, usualy its 3ml and I only bump up additional nutes to full mode...When I add nutes i left air stones in water for couple of minutes so that nutes mix well...

I know that you are only trying to help and I give you mad props and Respect for this.. But i think we are loooking at wrong direction..

@polishpollack ok my girls are shit and i over fert them..So why i dont have any nute burn leafs?

@im4satori I use silica because of heatz..

MY TENT TEMPS ARE 31-33c lights on (87,8 F -91 F).. More than 80% of their life.. When the lights are off its 25-28c..(77 F - 82 F)

do you see similarity? with my shitty girl?

clean water...
clean water...
then
Base nutrients at 1/4 strength + BigBud at half strength what it says on the label,

and flush with this 3-5 times the volume of the pot, then leave alone until for sure dry and needs another watering
then clean water..
then clean water..
and now just overdrive 1/2 strength alone
then clean water
then clean water
see where they're at

suggestion

I cant go under 50% on base nuted coz my tap water is too hard and has too high ph (8.6 ) for ph perfect technology to work.. This is like my 6th grow until now. One grow before this I always has some sort of ph problems, or some sort of problems, call me a stubborn call me dumb but I dont see the reason of f up all girls and flushing them because of one...few of you are basicly saying that I'm doing it all wrong whole time,but my f up only shows in two grows on 2 girls from 11that i grew,and It was all luck, of not having shown mad def. before??? funniest thing is that in my previous grows if I would f something up problems would start to see in matter of week or two the most,and it was shown on all girls every time... So it seems to.me that I sofisticated my f up so much that is only shown on 20% of girls. I checked them today again, def. are not spreading and still only one has it..my next move is to reg feed them by chart but I will add some cal mag to this biatch...

It wasn't mainly to flush, I'm not a flusher, I never do, (my bathroom stinks..LOL j.k.)
it was to set the medium packed with BigBud formula, and light base nutrients for full compliment of minerals. and they would probably jump in happy bud growth.

Use my suggestion as a guide then, and tweak what works for you. This is all I can do, I've tried to help youo several times, and you seem to just do whatever you want anyway, so why ask for help. We don't know why 1 out of the bunch is different, we dont know why one plant is giving issues and not others.. but if you will only take advice from your own inner voice, this whole thread is useless waste of everyone's time.

cu.
you know what you're doing, you'll figure it out.

ok
you part b is different than what I had

so using the nute info you provided and adding in the silica

veg full strength
7mls part A
7mls part B
5mls calmag
5mls Silica

bloom full strength
5mls part A
5mls part B
5mls over drive
5mls calmag
5mls si

dilute to target EC/PPM

as for the ph... I wouldn't be trusting there ph technology or whatever. Especially if using silica
which drives the ph even higher

honestly you might be better of leaving the silica out of the mix and using it as a spray if you've got a high ph source water

what I don't like about your nutes

they don't list the % info for micros and the micros are in the same bottle as the major nitrogen source (part A)

so its hard to lower the N (or part a)without also lowering the micros...and since they don't list the % amounts is impossible to know how low the part A can be lowered to before the micros become too low

it would be a better nute if they would have put the micros in the part B imho

@Johnei I respect you for trying to help, I really do, but Im pretty stubborn guy, and If you dont provide me explanation of why i need to do that and that, i wont listen.. I need arguments.. Arguments that can hold water..Once more not considering my self good grower, but I considering myself good enought to know what troubled weed plant look like,And I really dont see the point of strait water in.middle-near the end flowering on girls who dont show any signs of nute / ph lock or similar.. Once again I had mad problems with ph previous grows, and those problems doesnt show up in 8th weeek of life only on one girl,That's my expirince talking... And yes I listen to you and gave her and all of them plain water and it was molases turn.. ((If you had car with some kind of problems (same every time) and you new car giving you
@im4satori I dont use veg nutes,coz soil is pre ferted.. 1.5gr
problems also but diferent kind.. If your mech@nic told you is the same problem like on old car and you KnoW it can be true..„What would you do?? I listen to ya all And I will correct my waterings feedings ,by adding molasses every other watering in bloom..Without it in veg.. Once again same setup,same feeding schedules but without mollases, And no problems.. @im4satori I dont have veg nutes only bloom sensi, my soil is pre ferted 1.5g ... Thats why i only use bloom nutes . I dont feed them first 4weeks..are those per liter doses or per buckets?? I use silica only because I read it lowers heat stress..

if you don't feed the veg formula then just use the bloom formula

silica does help with heat.. but it also pushes ph up so I chose to spray it vs putting it into my roots, just my preference

yeah silica is strong stuff, in pure form for plants, it's something crazy for them in my opinion, and I would go very very light with it, as it becomes part of their cellular makeup. Too much I believe is detrimental, and the high Silica pH can throw things out of whack for sure if not careful.

I dont use plain silica.(I read that it lovers ph like mad) I use Rhino Skin.. I dont mix different brands of nutes, for sinergy wise.. That is why I follow AN feed chart,but with lower doses.. But the ph is always on point 6.5 or 6.6..

I must ask one thing, what if she is just finchy? like u all in eager to .help overlook heat stress, and fact that she might be just finchy?

Next feeding i will give them usual doses of nutes but i will add call-mag just for her...If someone still will be interested how are this shitty plants and me antigrower are doing i will put some pics here..