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GreenNerd420

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I'm sorry for what happened to you, but if I was in your situation, there is no fucking way I'd even be on this site, let alone asking if I could continue to grow. What the fuck are you thinking? Honestly...

Your children were taken away because you grew pot. You were busted. You want to continue to grow, and you still don't even have custody of your child. I'd say you're not making good decisions, and you should probably reassess your priorities, because from where I'm standing, it looks like your priorities are completely FUCKED.

Maybe I misunderstood something, but it seems pretty simple. They won't have a hard time making you look bad in front of a jury. Ultimately, you should probably focus on getting your kids back and stay off RIU. That's just my opinion.

I know I sound harsh, but that's just how I feel. I really do hope it all works out for you, but you've got to get your shit sorted soon! I really feel for you, and I hope you get your kids back.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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Keenly2 said:
Fourth amendment violation... they entered your home without permission and picked a locked door without a warrant... sounds pretty cut and dry to me since anything with a lick requires a warrant to be searched
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I'm with this line of thinking. The cops did not have permission to enter, but they are going to testify otherwise, because you have no kicked in door to prove them liars.

Your biggest concern is the child. The fact that he was able to defeat 2 devices to keep him in the home seems unbelieveable, but I'm sure there is evidence, because we are talking devices, not good wishes.

I do not pratice law, however, I feel you'll be fine. Your "lawyer" will play hardball with you on a plea deal, don't take it. You have the right to be secure in your dwelling and can expect protection against unreasonable search and seaizures. If your lawyer will not present a defense using unlawful search, request another lawyer and tell the judge why.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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GreenNerd420 said:
Maybe I misunderstood something, but it seems pretty simple. They won't have a hard time making you look bad in front of a jury. Ultimately, you should probably focus on getting your kids back and stay off RIU. That's just my opinion.
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Who said anything about a jury trial?

If that's the opinion that you have of RIU, why are you even here? The poster is asking for legal advice, he could care less of what your morals have to say. Do you go around looking for people to put down? I actually think you do....
 
GreenNerd420

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Serapis, didn't you just have a thread shutdown by a moderator for your inability to co-exist with other users? Please stop insulting me.
 
Bryguy420

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where his judgement seems harsh, i can sense that the poster is a parent and if the shoe was on the other foot, i might say something along similar lines. however, mary jane is not an evil plant. if i was a tweaker and wanted to continue cooking meth after getting my kids back (or continue being an alcaholic for another example) than yes, id say yes, my priorities are fucked. however, ganja is a victemless crime and an all around good impact on anyones life that consumes it. it should be up to me whether or not i want to smoke weed, not the government's decision. this isnt something that would incapacitate me like something harmful like oxycoton, its herb. while i appreciate the constructive criticism, my parenting skills are not the problem. (my wife on the other hand, should have been watching both children instead of devoting too much time to just our daughter, but she is 10 months old and needs attention, too) i am fairly sure that i did not NOT say if i was or wasnt medicle at the time of my arrest as i remained silent the entire time, so i might get my light, ballest, and dried weed back, but not the plants, which i am sure are destroyed by now.
 
GreenNerd420

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So, you have a card, Bryguy420? If not, then you shouldn't have been growing without assuming risk... If you had a card already established, I apologize.
 
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suTraGrow

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Serapis said:
Who said anything about a jury trial?

If that's the opinion that you have of RIU, why are you even here? The poster is asking for legal advice, he could care less of what your morals have to say. Do you go around looking for people to put down? I actually think you do....
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Im with you on this one holy shit the guys asked for help and advice not to come on here and be judged and insulted. If you got nothing nice to say dont say it at all. Guess your momma didn't teach you proper manners huh. Im dam sure hes doing everything to get his kids back and if you even read half of page one you would see the same. But instead you wanna be a ignorant prick and come on here and teach somebody else on what to do in this situation. Have you ever been in this situation? or know anybody? Or even helped out body out before in this situation? By looking at your previous post im gonna assume NO. But oh wait im sure your gonna say yes to both seeing how big of a bad ass you are Greennerd. Dont try to judge somebody else intill you walked a mile in there shoes ok there kiddo go work on your manners.

and also if you knew ANYTHING about how the court system work you would know this wouldn't even make it to a judge by jury trial.
 
GreenNerd420

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suTraGrow said:
Im with you on this one holy shit the guys asked for help and advice not to come on here and be judged and insulted. If you got nothing nice to say dont say it at all. Guess your momma didn't teach you proper manners huh. Im dam sure hes doing everything to get his kids back and if you even read half of page one you would see the same. But instead you wanna be a ignorant prick and come on here and teach somebody else on what to do in this situation. Have you ever been in this situation? or know anybody? Or even helped out body out before in this situation? By looking at your previous post im gonna assume NO. But oh wait im sure your gonna say yes to both seeing how big of a bad ass you are Greennerd. Dont try to judge somebody else intill you walked a milk in there shoes ok there kiddo go work on your manners.

and also if you knew ANYTHING about how the court system work you would know this wouldn't even make it to a judge by jury trial.
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You are right. I apologize. I couldn't imagine being in that situation. I spoke too sharply.
 
Bryguy420

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no, you made good points, but ganja is soooo much more to me than a recreational high. i KNOW im getting my children back withen weeks or months, but the thought of living without ganja for years mortifies me. not everyone is unlucky enough to have a debilitating disease that warrents legal marijuana use. those that have a card can tend to be high and tight about having legal access to herb, but it shouldnt be exckusive to a minority of people. we are all fighting to end this unjust prohibition. if anything, people that have gone down for growing and smoking weed should be hailed as myters just as much as tommy chong and marc emery, not put down as petty criminals. remember, we are? all on the same side here, fighing the same unjust war on drugs. you know, just something to consuder in the future...
 
Illegalbreather

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From what you described you will be fine in court. They had no right to walk into your home to begin with and certainly had no right to go into your grow room. Even if they had a right to go into your room and get you, once they found the grow they needed to place an officer at the door and go get a search warrant. An attorney with half a law degree will be able to beat this one. Now, you won't get your weed or light back so forget about it. They are considered implements of a crime and they're gone!!!! Please keep us posted!
 
machnak

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Damn dude, I'm sorry for your luck and hope that everything works out in your favor.


Fuck cops, fucking cock suckers.
 
Bryguy420

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seriously? that was a nice 600 watt system tho... i do still have my 1000 watt system, but im not happy with how hot it ran in my room. i guess it wouldnt hurt to try when they are no longer evidence though. did i mention that my security gaurd witnessed them push straight into my house when my wife turned her back? would his testimoney be key to this illegal s&s or could i get this without him showing up in court? i was thinking of having my attorney asking the gaurd his permission to tape a phone interview and playing it in court. also, do i have grounds for a civil lawsuit against the police dept. for this?? id REALLY like for the police to buy me a house in the country and sponcer my next 20 grows!
 
Bryguy420

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also, let it be known that no court in this coountry or even the world that could keep me from posting on RIU. this site is like a third testicle that i just cant leave alone. i luv u guys
 
abudsmoker

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Bryguy420 said:
seriously? that was a nice 600 watt system tho... i do still have my 1000 watt system, but im not happy with how hot it ran in my room. i guess it wouldnt hurt to try when they are no longer evidence though. did i mention that my security gaurd witnessed them push straight into my house when my wife turned her back? would his testimoney be key to this illegal s&s or could i get this without him showing up in court? i was thinking of having my attorney asking the gaurd his permission to tape a phone interview and playing it in court. also, do i have grounds for a civil lawsuit against the police dept. for this?? id REALLY like for the police to buy me a house in the country and sponcer my next 20 grows!
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Let me explain something your lawyer should have allready.
I once thought my home was safe, it is as long as the front door is closed, For me i answered the door told 2 sheriffs that they needed court papers to have a discussion, they forced their way in tackled me, arrested me for resisiting, booked me for assult on a public servant and all over a child custody issue. Once your door is open your case is shut. They were there in response to a child saftey call. The reason for the call doesnt matter they were there in official compacity. Once inside they dont need a warrant or cause to verify the home is safe. During the investigation of the original call they stumbled on a illegal grow, you at the time had no legal right to possess or cultivate marijuana. Thus the charge was filed and valid, and will stick.

Secondly to assume you will just get your kids back is a farce, you need to really think about how safe it is to have a room like that in a home for children, in prior posts you show a mangled finger from a fan that your kid pushed you into. In the eyes of the court having the right to smoke or grow might be legal there, but child saftey is paramount. What happens if your child gets his/her hand in that fan, or gets into your room. It is plausable as this child got out of the home. The issue is not child abuse but Neglectful supervision, and simply wont be overlooked. While this case might not qualify for termination of parental rights, however if they allow the child or children home without classes or education to help you and your wife learn, understand and provide a safe enviroment for children they will be open to backlash if something happens to your children after returning.

I would hope you step back and understand the dangers of cultivation of marijuana in the home. Your home could be safe but these activities open you to a higher risk of danger.
 
Bryguy420

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so you are saying do it in a wood shed next time :) gotcha. nothing and nobody can convince me that growing weed is more harmful that consuming a cheeseburger. actually, you can choke and die from a burger, so now i view that as a much deadlier substance. unfortunately, your logic is flawed as i have successfully repelled the cops from a different grow when my son pulled this stunt once before. since you are so good at pulling up old topics that i made, perhaps you should look that one up as well. locked means locked. that means without permission, you may not enter. perhaps you are accustomed to letting the law rape you, but please, dont give advice that you think my lawyer should give me until you yourself take a better grasp of your rights as a united states citizen. better yet, just exit RIU altogether and leave the growing business to those that better understand the risks involved. oh, and before you come back with your witty comebacks and remarks, understand that even with a public attorney, i have a better chance at fighting this case (which any grower eventually sees a court case, which is highly likely in our kind of work, ask mr nice and soma if you do not believe me) than you ever did when you made the dumb ass mistake to cover up your grow and therefore recieved your assault on a public servent charge. im so sick of people who think they have a grasp of their rights and running around spouting the same myths over and over again. you know what? telling a cop to come back with a warrent just pissed them off. know how you win? you take it to court and prove they had no right to be in your house. cops dont give a damn about your rights, and they sure as fuck dont get punished for not observing your rights. only in court are your rights protected, but i suppose your attorney never sat you down and explained this to you. please, run along and leave adult matters to adults. run your jr high understanding of how the real world works on some mentally handicapped kid who might be dumb enough to buy your bullshit. also, you should watch your mouth, as the shit you say, makes you sound like a fucking cop.
 
abudsmoker

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Bryguy420 said:
so you are saying do it in a wood shed next time :) gotcha. nothing and nobody can convince me that growing weed is more harmful that consuming a cheeseburger. actually, you can choke and die from a burger, so now i view that as a much deadlier substance. unfortunately, your logic is flawed as i have successfully repelled the cops from a different grow when my son pulled this stunt once before. since you are so good at pulling up old topics that i made, perhaps you should look that one up as well. locked means locked. that means without permission, you may not enter. perhaps you are accustomed to letting the law rape you, but please, dont give advice that you think my lawyer should give me until you yourself take a better grasp of your rights as a united states citizen. better yet, just exit RIU altogether and leave the growing business to those that better understand the risks involved. oh, and before you come back with your witty comebacks and remarks, understand that even with a public attorney, i have a better chance at fighting this case (which any grower eventually sees a court case, which is highly likely in our kind of work, ask mr nice and soma if you do not believe me) than you ever did when you made the dumb ass mistake to cover up your grow and therefore recieved your assault on a public servent charge. im so sick of people who think they have a grasp of their rights and running around spouting the same myths over and over again. you know what? telling a cop to come back with a warrent just pissed them off. know how you win? you take it to court and prove they had no right to be in your house. cops dont give a damn about your rights, and they sure as fuck dont get punished for not observing your rights. only in court are your rights protected, but i suppose your attorney never sat you down and explained this to you. please, run along and leave adult matters to adults. run your jr high understanding of how the real world works on some mentally handicapped kid who might be dumb enough to buy your bullshit. also, you should watch your mouth, as the shit you say, makes you sound like a fucking cop.
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You really have life and raising children all fucked up. You are the one asking advice from a drug manufacturing forum. You seem like your mr know it all and as stated twice you have had problems monitoring your child. My situation had nothing to do with growing around children, as for exiting the forum i think you know where the door is. if you cant handle the heat go on.
Re read your posts and look at who's logic is flawed. Children come first for 99.9 % of parents, however some how you think that doesnt apply to yours.

As for my case it was dismissed because there was no evidence of assult, however i still got charged for resisting. I have no law degree, nor do you or likely any member of this site.
What i do know is that expecting this to blow over is unlikely at best. Good luck to you kiddo
 
GreenNerd420

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abudsmoker said:
You really have life and raising children all fucked up. You are the one asking advice from a drug manufacturing forum. You seem like your mr know it all and as stated twice you have had problems monitoring your child. My situation had nothing to do with growing around children, as for exiting the forum i think you know where the door is. if you cant handle the heat go on.
Re read your posts and look at who's logic is flawed. Children come first for 99.9 % of parents, however some how you think that doesnt apply to yours.

As for my case it was dismissed because there was no evidence of assult, however i still got charged for resisting. I have no law degree, nor do you or likely any member of this site.
What i do know is that expecting this to blow over is unlikely at best. Good luck to you kiddo
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This is somewhat relevant to what I had said earlier.
 
Bryguy420

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woh, slow your rolls. i was addressing his "dangers of growing marijuana" speech. assume all you want, but i have problems with my son that ive never experienced with my daughter. dont begin to understand every factor within this case by basing fact with assumptions. the one time i chew a guy out for saying shit similar to what the cops have been saying versus those that grow AND are parents have been saying and it turns to "woh, you was passed out on drugs". im not here for legal advice, but a better understanding of what possibilities could i be facing within my near future. my wife was distracted with putting our daughter to bed and i was asleep at 2 in the morning because i work for a living beginning at 6:30 in the morning. if anything, i did the responcible thing that i have been doing every night for 3 years and my wife slipped up and AS A GOOD HUSBAND i took the fall for everything as the plants were mine, however that wouldnt have been an issue if my wife was being more attentive. thanks for being insensitive jerks, all 3 of the last posters. my perental priorities are just fine, thanks for asking.
 
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