bushmaster vs bud blood power

EmptyWords

EmptyWords

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im looking for something to stop all the streching in flower and transfer the plants to flower faster. it really screwed me this time around and i ended up with 6 foot tall plants lol "my first grow btw". I see using bushmaster will help stop streching and it looks like bud blood will do the same but i only see it in powder form and i use an aero setup and not sure if they go together. could anyone help me make a decision on this? i would really like to order one or the other today.
 
EmptyWords

EmptyWords

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cannabis420420 said:
you could always top plants if u don't want them that big
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i dont want to top when they already have buds on them and still have streched. they just stopped streching at week 5. i just want a better way than topping so i thought i want try bushmaster or something.
 
EmptyWords

EmptyWords

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after reading around im just going to try bush master but im open to hear what anyone has to say about this topic.
 
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Wetdog

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Bushmaster is nothing more than .1 (1/10 of 1%) phosphoric acid. That's it!

You could get the same result with a little pH down. Most of them use phosphoric acid as a base.

Learn how to research these rip offs. ~$30/8oz for something that is 99.9% water?!!!??

Wet
 
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Wetdog

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LeeroySlim said:
ill deff look into that caz these products are a rip off even though they work
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http://agr.wa.gov

Takes a little searching, but you can find a detailed analysis of anything that is sold in the state.

For sure they work, they just don't want you to know they are simple, cheap, ingredients. It's called marketing.

Wet
 
DankBudzzz

DankBudzzz

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I used bud blood on my purple kush plants and 7/9 showed sex in 3 days. They barely stretched in flower which I actually disliked as I didn't veg as long as I'd liked.
 
lerellion

lerellion

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Im' a budblood user as well, However bud blood has been reformulated to a new product called bud ignitor (and is a liquid) , I havn't tried this product yet but will durring the next run.
 
Dirtfree

Dirtfree

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Ive used bushmaster a couple of times and i wont ever use it again. It did what it was supose to do but burned my leaves.
If i remember correctly you are only supose to use bushmaster in the first two weeks of flower.
If you are in week 5 the streach should be almost done.
 
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her.moore

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i use blood bud and flower dragon. flower dragon stop the vertical growth on a dime. i use it in weeks two and week 3. my buds got 4x Bigger.
 
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dlively11

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Wetdog said:
Bushmaster is nothing more than .1 (1/10 of 1%) phosphoric acid. That's it!

You could get the same result with a little pH down. Most of them use phosphoric acid as a base.

Learn how to research these rip offs. ~$30/8oz for something that is 99.9% water?!!!??

Wet
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Cant be it sorry. I looked at the link and they do only list .1 % Phosphoric acid and some small amount of metals. If you look at their Big Up it has 30% Phosphoric Acid. There is no possible way .1 % would stop all vertical stretch like this stuff does and also burn plants. Hell I used 1 ML per gallon in my hydro setup with my regular nutes and got some pretty bad ram horns on my leafs after 5 days only. Plants that normally triple in height only stretched 1-2 inches max over the next two weeks after that limited dose ! There is something in there they do not list on that site.
 
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Cannacaster Deluxe

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Wetdog said:
Bushmaster is nothing more than .1 (1/10 of 1%) phosphoric acid. That's it!

You could get the same result with a little pH down. Most of them use phosphoric acid as a base.

Learn how to research these rip offs. ~$30/8oz for something that is 99.9% water?!!!??

Wet
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Great info. I'm totally into not being ripped off by these companies because I didn't take the time to learn the science. And it does take time. Ideally I would like to make my own nutes when I have learned enough. I stumbled on this post while trying to find out what's in Bud Blood. I'm a little unclear as to how to implement the method in the above quote. I use pH down daily (hydro) so theoretically should I be experiencing similar effects as if I had used Bushmaster? Also have you tried it? how did it compare with the control? Again thanks for the info. And if these companies weren't so greedy we wouldn't have to find ways around supporting them.

This is my first post so go easy on me dudes and dudettes.
 
Silicity

Silicity

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Cannacaster Deluxe said:
Great info. I'm totally into not being ripped off by these companies because I didn't take the time to learn the science. And it does take time. Ideally I would like to make my own nutes when I have learned enough. I stumbled on this post while trying to find out what's in Bud Blood. I'm a little unclear as to how to implement the method in the above quote. I use pH down daily (hydro) so theoretically should I be experiencing similar effects as if I had used Bushmaster? Also have you tried it? how did it compare with the control? Again thanks for the info. And if these companies weren't so greedy we wouldn't have to find ways around supporting them.

This is my first post so go easy on me dudes and dudettes.
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do some more research, that guy is an idiot, sorry to say.

bushmaster contains a plant growth regulator called chlormequat chloride that altars plants auxins, it actually works and isnt just phosphoric acid... do some research on plant growth regulators and you'll be introduced to a whole new ball game.

also do some research of the health effects of these products as they can be carcinogenic (cancer causing) and then you decide wether or not its for you.
 
cues

cues

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Keeping with the MH bulb for the first couple of weeks of 12/12 helps keep stretch down. I've just done it with some Big Bang clones that usually double in stretch. This time it's only about 70%.
 
Silicity

Silicity

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cues said:
Keeping with the MH bulb for the first couple of weeks of 12/12 helps keep stretch down. I've just done it with some Big Bang clones that usually double in stretch. This time it's only about 70%.
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use 455nm leds and more blue spectrum leds only and your plant will have very tight internode structure, safe alternative, healthy growth, helps reduce stretch greatly but it doesnt induce flowering quickly such as chlormequat chloride.
 
colonuggs

colonuggs

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Silicity said:
do some more research, that guy is an idiot, sorry to say.

bushmaster contains a plant growth regulator called chlormequat chloride that altars plants auxins, it actually works and isnt just phosphoric acid... do some research on plant growth regulators and you'll be introduced to a whole new ball game.

also do some research of the health effects of these products as they can be carcinogenic (cancer causing) and then you decide wether or not its for you.
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Yep...bushmaster/hombolt products has some nasty PGR in it.... thats why it has been made illegal to sell in California
 
Silicity

Silicity

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colonuggs said:
Yep...bushmaster/hombolt products has some nasty PGR in it.... thats why it has been made illegal to sell in California
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*Half-lives in 4 soils were reported as averaging 32 days at 10 deg C and 1 to 28 days at 22 deg C.
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isn't as bad as some people claim to say, it needs to be applied safely and not in large amounts, as with most chemicals.
 
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