Bushmaster and Gravity Questions? +rep for good advice

A little background info...

Nearing the end of week 5 of veg, under 2 600W MH lights, in 3 gallon pots.
Strains: Purple Voodoo, NYC Diesel, AK48, Cheese, Strawberry Cough, Flo, G13, and some unknown Indicas.

I started with Earth Juice for the first 4 weeks, then switched to Dyna-Gro Foliage-pro in conjunction with the Pro-Tekt. I have the Mag-Pro for flowering as well. I also supplement with B-52 and Voodoo juice from advanced nutrients.

So from what I understand Bushmaster stops vertical growth during the flowering phase, why would I want that? Is it so that the plant can concentrate more on flower development than vascular growth? Does it make a big difference? When exactly do you use it and how? So you spray it on or do you water with it?

What are your experiences with Gravity? Is it worth buying? Considering the kind of genetics I have, I want to get the most I can out of them.

I've used it several times, and its the one product from that manufacturer that you can tell its doing what it said it would. If you've vegged your babes to the height and profile you want then you want to flower right away, instead of spend the next two weeks of transition vegging/flowering at the same time, it will help them bush out and make bud sites. They will stretch a little bit any ways, but you can tell its dramatically reduced if youve worked with the strain before without bushmaster. Apply it during the first week of transition, maybe even before, I've been playing around with it, just make sure you veg plenty. I've sprayed and watered, I've seen the best results when watered, each strain reacts differently, sativa's seem to be more affected by it from what I've seen.

Both work amazingly well. I just used bush master and only use 1 ML per gal in my hydro setup. It stopped the vertical stretch you normally get. Plants that normally triple in height only stretched 1-2 inches over a two week period ! Very string so dont use a lot. Spraying it doesnt work very well from my experience. I tried it many times and never got much in the way of results spraying. Gravity works great for making buds very dense,hard and heavy. Need to use it week 5,6 and 7 to really get the results from it. Again very strong. I use 2 ML per gal in hydro.

i used gravity and bushmaster. i followed the directions and used less than what it said. they came out very dense and vertical growth stopped. that batch never got rid of the grass smell even after 2 months of curing. the following batch. i did the same strains without those nutes and they came out a million time better. also the gravity started growing mold inside the bottle. in my opinion anything from humboldt counties own is pure crap and is a waste of time and money.

I've used BM as a foliar with great results. 1ml/gallon, then sprayed every 7 days from the beginning of flower for three weeks, so 3 times total. Seemed to help in my mini t-5 grow. T-5 lights don't have a lot of penetrating power so you have to stay short.

So mixed results, has anyone tried a side by side comparison?

Bushmaster is great just use a low dose around 1 ml

xochilives said:

So mixed results, has anyone tried a side by side comparison?

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i have with using it and with out. how it came out is like i said before. the fact that mold was growing in the gravity in the bottle. that is no good. i personally will never use those products again

I witnessed a large indoor grow with and without gravity and bushmaster. The side using the products yielded almost 30 percent more.

capncash said:

I witnessed a large indoor grow with and without gravity and bushmaster. The side using the products yielded almost 30 percent more.

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How was the quality? I would rather have quality over quantity.

xochilives said:

So mixed results, has anyone tried a side by side comparison?

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No, nor do they know the active ingredients in the products. If you have good genetics and are experienced in plant culture, you'll have excellent results and will not need nor want watered down gimmicks. It's plenty of healthy foliage and indica genetics that produces dense buds with good weight.

Try to understand the target group such vendors focus on and you'll understand what the cannabis racket is all about - making money as they take advantage of an unsophisticated customer.

UB

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hyroot, if you are not using them because of the bad taste on cure that is very understandable...mold in a bottle only means it got contaminated somewhere along the way as nutes feed mold and such...ANY nute will feed something. Was the mold in there the first time you opened it, or after you had handled it?

Uncle Ben said:

No, nor do they know the active ingredients in the products. If you have good genetics and are experienced in plant culture, you'll have excellent results and will not need nor want watered down gimmicks. It's plenty of healthy foliage and indica genetics that produces dense buds with good weight.

Try to understand the target group such vendors focus on and you'll understand what the cannabis racket is all about - making money as they take advantage of an unsophisticated customer.

UB

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and someone said "here we go" and.. UB is totally correct. check the bottle of gravity, in small print it says a website to check for "heavey metal content". go to that site, see how much zinc, and heavey metals make up there product. its all organiclly derived, I'm sure. then if that umber doesn't bother you ("if it makes big buds, what do i care?!") well then go see what industrial hemp is used for. polution clean-up in contaminated soils.

UB, is on this one. He may have left out why hee's right and that pisses some people off BUT he is right. its snake oil, as in it DOES make buds heavier but you do NOT want its end result. AND he is right again "Look at the target group."

I know kids in the 707 and they had never even heard of this shit, so check their creds too..

Facepalm at Unclue Ben

Gravity doesnt hurt your quality one bit only makes the buds much denser/rock hard. Done many side by side comparisons and the results are very clear that it does exactly what it says. Bushmaster stops the vertical in its tracks within a day after its application. I cant seeany degradation in quality at all. I only see the buds being fuller then without and it seems to be cutting a solid week of the bloom cycle. Dont let the old timer critics scare you. Its not going to somehow contaminate your grow or hurt your product. Yeah its a racket and yeah there are lots of very overpriced items out there but these two items are not at 1ML gal of BM max and 1-2 of the Gravity.

its all organiclly derived, I'm sure. then if that umber doesn't bother you ("if it makes big buds, what do i care?!") well then go see what industrial hemp is used for. polution clean-up in contaminated soils.

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They planted that stuff all around Chernobyl to clean up radiation...

Poison ahaha bushmaster is TOTAL shit. So pointless unless you have already fucked up. If your planning on using anything bushmaster you should just start over now.

PlantManBee said:

hyroot, if you are not using them because of the bad taste on cure that is very understandable...mold in a bottle only means it got contaminated somewhere along the way as nutes feed mold and such...ANY nute will feed something. Was the mold in there the first time you opened it, or after you had handled it?

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after i opened it once. i kept all my nutes in the same closet. the gravity is the only one that did that.. i have no idea how old that bottle was though. the batch i did without them. actually got a zip more it was almost as dense.

I had a bottle of Gravity in my closet and one day I woke up to find the shelf it was on collapsed overnight from the incredible weight.

(This testimony brought to you by the Truth in Cannabis League, Uncle Ben CEO)

seasmoke said:

They planted that stuff all around Chernobyl to clean up radiation...

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do you understand how polution and radiation are carreid in the soil? heavey metals act as vessels for all kinds of things.. thats WHY nute companies use them, check ALL of your inorganic nute bottles, they will tell you to check their heavey metals content..