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It definitely has concentrations of bacterium / fungals that you aren't going to find just using EWC, I'm guessing they somehow suspended spores in the mixture.

Honestly innoculating with any product that has all those little guys in it will be good...eventually a few of the strains will dominate everything else and should spread their populations very high keeping everything healthy.. It will all depend on your location, the way you are growing, what else you are adding , etc on which one will end up dominating.

Hacker I agree. I use to think that the humus, compost, ewc, mollases, oatmeal, and alfala would grow every thing. However I do beleive this has more spores of variety.

My reading suggest the more diversity of spores the better. I am going to start looing for differnet places that may have some in the brush. The only ones that are not helpful are ecto vs endo one is for trees and shribs and not what we need. The diversity is what started me down the myco path I have been happy with just my teas.

I also agree once innoculated the fungi will spread as the roots grow after all they are infected. However an occasional boost cannot hurt rather help the infection.

personified said:

Hacker I agree. I use to think that the humus, compost, ewc, mollases, oatmeal, and alfala would grow every thing. However I do beleive this has more spores of variety.

My reading suggest the more diversity of spores the better. I am going to start looing for differnet places that may have some in the brush. The only ones that are not helpful are ecto vs endo one is for trees and shribs and not what we need. The diversity is what started me down the myco path I have been happy with just my teas.

I also agree once innoculated the fungi will spread as the roots grow after all they are infected. However an occasional boost cannot hurt rather help the infection.

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It's fascinating stuff.. I personally like the stuff you can apply directly to the root zone that's in a powder or granule.

If you want bio-diversity, good fresh humus, or a quality compost at least should give you that. Alaskan Forest Humus has tens of thousands of species of bacteria, and some 5,000 of fungi. If you want to get the fungi to dominate you have to mix in enough complex carbohydrates like kelp or oatmeal and let the fungi colonize it for a few days. Crumble it up and brew with that, along with a small amount of blackstrap (no more than 1 tsp/gal), kelp, Earth Juice Catalyst, humic\fulvic acids and a wetting agent like yucca or aloe vera juice. If you don't give the fungi a good head start or over-do it on the simple sugars you will more than likely end up with a bacterially dominated tea.

I start my alfala, oatmeal early from the left overs in my rabbit cages. I spray it down periodically and let the growth begin then pull it with lots of mollases and now something new corn meal. I have some dark local humice, ewc, and compost. I am sure I have an excellent bio-diversity just gotta try new things.

My root balls are huge now I am just trying to get them bigger. Ya' know how it is.... I have to have the biggest balls of all!!

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I start my alfala, oatmeal early from the left overs in my rabbit cages. I spray it down periodically and let the growth begin then pull it with lots of mollases and now something new corn meal. I have some dark local humice, ewc, and compost. I am sure I have an excellent bio-diversity just gotta try new things.

My root balls are huge now I am just trying to get them bigger. Ya' know how it is.... I have to have the biggest balls of all!!

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So I take you agree that FF microbrew and other colorful bottles that list "RTU" microbes that are normally in ewc in the first place is no more improvement over conventional organics(plain compost, ewc, teas etc) then? That was my point.

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So I take you agree that FF microbrew and other colorful bottles that list "RTU" microbes that are normally in ewc in the first place is no more improvement over conventional organics(plain compost, ewc, teas etc) then? That was my point.

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Not 100% I believe that I am experimenting and I will get back to you on the verdict.

I agree with eldeuce all the diversity you can ever want is already available in nature and all around us. Simply sampling different soils from everywhere you hike and using a teaspoon of each in every brew could result in teas with as much or more diversity than what is trapped in a bottle and dying/dormant IMO. I think all these gardening companies and corporations in general have recently enabled and confused many modern farmers by creating flashy labels and marketing campaigns to sell us easier quicker and costly/profitable versions of what humans used to do for ourselves and each other locally. Its great that you are willing to step off the living organics high horse and give the bottles a go 'just to see' if all their hype and stuff is just that. Really most of us are blending the two as best we see fit, I know I am. Clearly as long as the synth mindset (just add more concentrates to the water and all problems will go away) is not still dominant all the organic products on the market can be used as effective tools in living organic gardens.

Well I can say it has helped the hydro there are little hairs everywhere on the roots and the plant is throwing on a ton of foliage.