Bulk Mono Tek Pictorial

Hey man! I want to thank you for opening my eyes to the wonderful world of shroom cultivation and for your methods which have worked well for me. You are the man!
Haven't seen you in awhile, hope you're doing well. Peace!
 
choempi...thank you very much for this kickass tutorial. this is in fact my first post so a big shout out to all your efforts. i did have a question. your fruiting chamber seems to be modified a bit. any tips on how and where the holes should be placed etc?

thank you in advance kind sir.

wardenclyffe
 

Bwpz

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Here's my shopping list:

$0 Horse Manure

$1 Black Garbage Bag

$15 400 grams coir

$8 2 cups gypsum

$2 2 gallons water

$5 5 gallon bucket

$15 66 gallon tub

$70 pressure cooker ($10)

$8 6 quart jars

$4 4 lbs popcorn

$0 tyvex

$1 aluminum foil

$23 spores


**$152 ($92)
The PC is in parenthesis because I'mma try and borrow one for $10, just for the first grow :P

Does that look like a complete list? No perlite, polyfill or anything is needed for the FC? It just stays in the same container the whole time?

No need to put a light over it either? Just sitting in a room would be fine?
 

tommyo3000

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Yo dude.. if you wanna pressure cooker buy one at walmart... return it withing 30 days.

You can buy one at target and have it for 90 days before you return.
 

canndo

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What is it with this reluctance to own a pressure cooker? The PF people can use the 7 quart ones, I've seen them for as little as twenty bucks. And they do have other uses, you CAN actually cook with them. There is no better way to cook an articoke. Beans cook quickly, soups and stews have extra flavor and your potroast will turn out even more tender.
 

The Cryptkeeper

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What is it with this reluctance to own a pressure cooker? The PF people can use the 7 quart ones, I've seen them for as little as twenty bucks. And they do have other uses, you CAN actually cook with them. There is no better way to cook an articoke. Beans cook quickly, soups and stews have extra flavor and your potroast will turn out even more tender.
Because when you search Google Shopping the first page is full of multi hundred dollar one. ;)
 

egon

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Pc is worth the money lowers chance of contam greatly, and if you get contamed its wasted substrate.

Also noticed you want to use popcorn with the bulk method, while its possible, something smaller like rye or wild bird seed will colonize bulk sub faster because more innoculation points than with larger seeds like popcorn, best way to use popcorn is to not mix with a sub and fruit directly or mixed with like 25% vermiculite.
 

canndo

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Seems to me if you mix it with vermiculite you dilute the substrate and your flushes take a beating. I like corn because it works and you can find corn about anywhere. I have mixed corn and rye when I want a really fast run but you can do the same thing with a bit of malt extract or molassas in your corn cook. All it takes is an extra shake or two.
 

Bwpz

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Seems to me if you mix it with vermiculite you dilute the substrate and your flushes take a beating. I like corn because it works and you can find corn about anywhere. I have mixed corn and rye when I want a really fast run but you can do the same thing with a bit of malt extract or molassas in your corn cook. All it takes is an extra shake or two.
I've already ordered the Rye Berries to use. I do have a question though. When it's in the 66-quart tube, how do you put it into fruiting conditions? Do you have to put the 66 quart tub into like a 60 gallon fruiting chamber?
 

canndo

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Fruiting occurs:

1. when your -Co2 ppm goes down to less than 5000 ppm
2. when the mycelia is exposed to light
3. when you reduce the temperature to 74 to 78 degrees

The third condition is looking for perfect pin sets - you can cause those pin sets when you do all three things at the same time but you will do fine without a temperature change. Usually your substrate heats up as the mycelium decomposes it and when you give it fresh air it will cool on its own. I don't hold to the "fanning" method but it works.
 

Bwpz

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Fruiting occurs:

1. when your -Co2 ppm goes down to less than 5000 ppm
2. when the mycelia is exposed to light
3. when you reduce the temperature to 74 to 78 degrees

The third condition is looking for perfect pin sets - you can cause those pin sets when you do all three things at the same time but you will do fine without a temperature change. Usually your substrate heats up as the mycelium decomposes it and when you give it fresh air it will cool on its own. I don't hold to the "fanning" method but it works.
So in my situation, I layer the substrate in a 66-quart tub and put it in a garbage bag for 2 weeks. I start fruiting as soon as I put it in some light and start doing the misting and FAE? What would my stages be?
 

canndo

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I don't understand your "layering" Firstly, I think that you are putting all of your eggs in one basket so to speak - I would use a few smaller tubs, in a modular fashion - but others like one big jump.
 

Bwpz

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I don't understand your "layering" Firstly, I think that you are putting all of your eggs in one basket so to speak - I would use a few smaller tubs, in a modular fashion - but others like one big jump.
I'm following this thread's tutorial completely. He layers it with a quart of myc then a layer of substrate. He's using the same tub I'm going to be making.
 

canndo

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I see, so his "casing" is integral to the substrate. There is nothing wrong with that method, it is just that you will have trouble with a good pinset and you will always have some moisture issues if you want to go beyond a couple of flushes. Go with it, see if it is what you want to do. Should give you plenty of fruit.
 
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