Bubbleponics DIY Easyryder Auto Fem Grow

spyvy

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Well This is day 5 .

. Started feeding today Added 20ml GH Grow to 8 gallons Of Water & 20 Ml Micro to 8 gal of water . Lowered lights to about 3 inches above...Useing 6 26 watt CFL 65K bulbs now . will add a few 26 watt 27 K in about a week ..

Figure in 2 days I will add another 20Ml of GH Grow & 20ML of Micro . That would be a 1/2 dose I think .

Also added more flow to the feeder tubes to the rockwool cubes . Figure soak the roots now since they have some food.

Only have 1 tap root showing at bottom of 1 cup..

PH at 5.8 //water colored due to GH micro slight tint . Can almost be misjudged as Alge ???

There are Pics at day 5 above ground.. :weed::weed::weed::joint::joint:
 

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spyvy

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Had some issues With algae.. I Started to notice the ph going high.... from 5.8 and was back up to 7 today .. /
.. I did have covers on the net pots thinking this was enough .

. The temp in the in the tank was 65 degrees. Ok there ..

So I checked the tank for light penetration and there was alot through the top and the sides..

I am useing a Rubbermaid Blue tote that does not block light to well .
I had no other choice right now. Other than to cover the entire tank in foil for now.

Flushed system Cleaned pump & bag .. Im pretty sure light was the problem .. Tank temp was ok at 65 Deg..

Any other thoughts . Seems the plants are In shock not much growth right now and only have 1 plant showing a tap root out the bottom of the cup ..

Now I am just running plain ph balanced water through the system .. Should I do that for a day or so then add Nutes again . And should they bounce back ??

Thanks :spew::spew::spew:
 

spyvy

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Ok I covered the tote with foil had a PH 0f 5.8 LAST NIIGHT . This morning it was back to 7.0. I have no idea what is going on .. I soaked the Hydro. In 5.0 PH water for 24 hours before i put in cups. PH still climbes way too fast . Plants look like they stopped growing.

Have 2 tap roots 2 seperate cup`s ..showing at the bottom of the cup`s. But PH still climbes to 7 I am lost . Do not know why it goes so high after a few hours .. I need some help.. should i just let it go ??,,,....Thought is was the light ... Not a happy camper here LOL... Don`t know why PH is going crazy ???
 

spyvy

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Ok useing tap water when i set is at 7.8 ph.. I set it to 5.8 in the am as this morning.

.. I covered my tote in foil so no light gets in. So why after 8 hours I rechecked at 5 pm And it is at 7.1 ph so how does it go this far in 8 hours...

Am I A PH freak. cause my plants are stunted in Growth..


I am lost or should
do not care what the Ph is no more . It seems I can no get it under control..


I set my PH at 5.8 at 7am this morning and now it is 7.1 and the PH went back to 7 again at 5 pm est .. How the hell does this happen. There is no light getting in My plants are stunted in growth .

No growth upwards. So all Help me ..I do not want to loose 6 Easy Ryders to a F-up I thought Ib had a handle on this grow But seems the ooser has no clue..

I soaked my hydro rocks in PH balanced water for 24 hours in 5.0 water & air stones . Why doe`s my PH go from 5.8 at 7 set in am and checked again at 5 pm the same day go to 7.1 . Algae is not an issue no more .

I am lost should I just let PH go and not mind it none. Or should I just start over . Plants have been above since last Friday and shown no upward growth.... Should I just give up on these ..I need help:joint::joint::joint::joint::joint:

I covered the entire tote in foil top and sides and my PH is still way out of wack In 8 hours,.

Ok set Ph at 5.8 at 7 Am this morning. Nowit is at 7.1.at 5 pm What the hell .

plants sure did stunt growth. Should I just give up and .start again I have no clue. But to say planst`s I have 2 pots showing roots at the bottom of the cupp`s today will be 7 days since they broke rockwol to the top`s
 

MataGrowa

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Hey Spyvy I am really sorry to hear about your troubles. I haven't replied because I have no idea what to say. I do remember reading about some kind of buffer you can add to the water if you are getting massive swings like that. Maybe try doing a search of Rosemans tutorial I do remember him saying you could add something but to only do it if you were getting real bad swings so I guess this would qualify.
 

CrackerJax

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I wish I could tell you, but I'm an outdoor grower and this never comes up for me.

I'm sure an answer will be forth coming...:peace:
 

spyvy

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Thanks man But seems I have some issues

Been using GH PH down.. Ok checked and adjusted to 5.8 again last night. And poof back to almost 7.0 again this morning
. Im lost here .

The tote water when i fill it is at 7.8. I adjust to 5.8 and goes right back to almost 7

The plants are 8 day`s old today above ground now ,,and never seen such small leafs.. Also could be it is Lowryder Easyryders fems mabee this is normal the way they look .. Is it Just me or do I have a problem >> LOL mabee look at the pics let me know .. Thank`s people:o:o:o:spew:
 

volcomrider157

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I have the same ph kit and I always run mine so the color is golden yellow, not yellow yellow,but golden yellow. what are your water temps?
 

spyvy

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water temp is 68 degrees .. Grow area is at 75 degrees > so you see I am lost here . Do not know why they are stunted and PH is off the wall If you see the pics of the PH test kit that is the reading as this morning
..Was 5.8 12 hours ago and poof right back up . Should I just leave it alone .. :weed::weed::weed:
 

MataGrowa

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I might be wrong but if it was me I would try the hydrogen peroxide solution someone mentioned in your Algae thread. That is the solution I remember Roseman suggesting. Now he said to only use it if you had wild fluctuations and couldn't control it but I guess this is one of those cases. The suggestion was to get the cheapest hydrogen peroxide at a market or CVS whatever. It should be 3% and add I believe 1 tbs per gallon and it is supposed to control the ph pretty much until you do d drain a replenish.
 

spyvy

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Ok after a nightmare first with light getting in the tub.. Fixed that for now temp solution.

Next was wild swings in the PH.. I read Rosemans Info on algae and did try the Hydrogen peroxide at 1 tsp per 3 gallons of water since mine is 8 gallon i went with 2 3/4 tsp. That did not work . Still would set Ph to 5.8 at 8pm. The next morning was back to over 7.0..

Then I did the 8 step recovery . That did not work But eliminated all alage. So we eliminated the light / The algae . Still had issues..with ph..

Next was reading some Of your Guy`s input and the last thing was the water what else could it have been ..

Well I went online to find out what the use in our city water . Turnes out they use some kind of buffer in the water . Not chlorine...

So next I went to WM and got one of these
http://www.brita.com/us/products/water-dispensers/ultramax/

a Brita Ultramax water filter pitcher and filter 8 gallons of water ..

Well first thing I noticed is that the water out of the tap was at 7.5 straight ..

After I Fill up I checked PH and Bam it was sitting at 6.5... So i added some PH down got it to 5.9 or so.. 9pm last night ..

Checked this morning at 7 am and stayed it is 6.0 .. Well the water was the issue . I was baffled..

Now the next problem is that I think My plants may be damaged now..

Have shown no upward Growth and the bottom leafs are curled down .. And only 2 cups are showing 1 tap root hitting the water now ..
I added some nutes. 20ml of GH grow/ 20ml GH micro/ 20ml of GH bloom to 8 gallons using this chart

http://www.hydroponics.net/learn/weekly_feeding_program_flora.asp

I am going to give them a few days and see if the get bett or start growing upwards.

Think i will have to make a filter system for my water now. and also get a Digital PH meter .. If these dont get better by next Monday Think I will scrap em and start over ..

Not happy with a loss of EasyRyders at 80 Bucks LOL ..... Live and learn water was not my friend on this grow at all :spew::spew::spew::spew::spew:
 

rudy.racoon

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I had a ph promblem to, and was told to check once every 24 hours at the same time, and only adjust at that time. Once I did that after about 3-4 days it would balance out and stop adjusting on me. Typically though I use reverse osmosis or zephrhills spring water.
 

spyvy

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Seems The PH is under control now Just need to see if the plants recover .

We will see what happens . if These don`t go I have 20 Nirvana short ryders and 20 bubblelicious. and the Attitude x mas 15 seeds /and assorted DNA seeds + some good bag seed so I am ready for anything .

My water really is bad here..
But now I know what the problem was . I am still going to see if the Easyryders come back.
I hope they do . My ph for the last 2 days stayed at 6.0 and did not change yet /..
I kind of planned ahead LOL thanks for the help and will keep ya posted .:joint::joint::joint::joint::weed::weed::weed::weed::o
 

wonderinaliceland

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Wanted to check out the thread...been wondering about this strain...Heard a lot of good things about it though........Sorry bout the ph....i also use GH ph up- down and my plants also like it best if it's more of a golden yellow......If your ph is jumping so high so fast i would think maybe the medium could use flushing?.....not sure of all the steps you've took but sounds like a maybe??
 
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