Bubbleponic droopage - NEEDS HELP FAST!!

ilikeblazin

ilikeblazin

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I am using a home-made bubbleponics system with 9 plants.
4 are The purps and 5 are Blue sage.

The one girl i'm worried about started showing some slouching two days ago and now she's not doing good at all.

I first thought it was over-watering, but i was confused cuz its getting the same amount of food n water just like all the other plants.
so i removed the tube from the netpot so the only roots that were getting some food n water was the strand that hangs just into the water.
There are 9 air stones so the water is full of oxygen. and the strand that hangs into the water is even getting pumped by the airstone below.

But a day later and here I am. The plant is still alive but it isn't looking good at all. The signs of death increased while i slept. The bottom half of the plant is starting to feel a little dry. So I was like wtf how could it of been underwatering it? all the roots are getting what they need and no more. (well i thought) But yeah i put the tubing back in there so they are getting it again but i dono.

I did some research and saw that you can over food without enough oxygen getting to the roots. I have never had that happen to me before because I have air pumps on both sides of the water pumps. That is also why I removed the tubing from the netpot in the first place. Just because there were roots in the water getting tons of oxygen from the air pump below.





But yeah I am really confused of what's going on.
Maybe you can help me:)
Thanks
 
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Bubba Kushman

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The other 8 look really good! You should remove the one in case it has some type of fungus prob you dont want the rest to get. Its a bummer but that one doesnt look like it will recover. You can try a seperate set up for the one but I would remove it from the rest. Sorry I could not be more help. Good Luck!
 
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Bullethead21

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Did you try the 8 step recovery process yet? Thats the only thing I can think of that might would help. While your doing the 8 step process inspect the roots really good on that plant. Look for brown or rotted or dead looking roots and cut them off very carefully as to not cut any live and good roots.

Clean the the tank really good with 1/4 teaspoon proxide then clean again with fresh water, then refill and start back with whatever strenght nuts you were using....speaking of that were you using full strenght SH bought nuts?

Check PH really well also after your done and back up and running.

Good luck, those other plants look sweet! How many weeks are they?
 
ilikeblazin

ilikeblazin

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Bullethead21 said:
Did you try the 8 step recovery process yet? Thats the only thing I can think of that might would help. While your doing the 8 step process inspect the roots really good on that plant. Look for brown or rotted or dead looking roots and cut them off very carefully as to not cut any live and good roots.

Clean the the tank really good with 1/4 teaspoon proxide then clean again with fresh water, then refill and start back with whatever strenght nuts you were using....speaking of that were you using full strenght SH bought nuts?

Check PH really well also after your done and back up and running.

Good luck, those other plants look sweet! How many weeks are they?
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yeah they are all 3 weeks.
the one looked just as amazing until 2 days ago:cry:

but yeah the roots on that plant look like theyve had their share of nutrients.
I am planning on flowering tomorrow so I am not bothering with my tank.
I just took the sad girl out fornow and will be putting it in her own small dwc system.
but tomorrow before i flower i will make sure everything is perfect before i put the babes back in.
 
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Bullethead21

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THE 8 STEP RECUPERATION AND RECOVERY REMEDY
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Check the roots. If they are discolored, reddish or brown, or present an unpleasant odor, you
have a problem. If they are weak, soft or mushy, you have a problem. Also while checking the
roots, observe the temperature of the water. If it is warmer than "luke warm" you have a
problem. This problem is probably what is referred to as "root rot" or a disease known as
PYTHIUM. Remove the dead brown roots by trimming them away with sharp scissors. Do not
leave them in the tank.​

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Check the humidity and temperature of the grow area below the lights in the "growing zone"
when the lights are on. A temperature of above 82 degrees or below 67 degrees will slow growth,
but it is not a serious problem that will kill your plants. Temperatures below 62 degrees or above
90 degrees will stop growth. An extremely high temperature in the upper 90s or below 58
degrees can slowly result in death of your plants. The most efficient temps for growth are
between 72 to 80 degrees. Any Humidity between 40 and 60 percent is acceptable and desirable.​

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Check the "lights off, nighttime" temperature. Most desirable is ten to 15 degrees cooler than
the daytime "lights on" temperature, averaging 66 to 70 degrees.​

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Check the distance between the tips of the plant and the tip of the light bulb. If you observe
yellowing or leaf curling tips, then move the lights one inch further away. A good rule of thumb if
you use HID lights, is hold the soft palm of your hand at the leaf tip and see if the bulb is too
warm to your hand. If you use Stealth Hydro's compact fluorescent bulbs, we recommend a
distance of three or four inches for the 65 and 85 watt bulbs and 4 inches to five inches for the
105 watt bulbs. More mature plants can handle the bulbs slightly closer.​

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Check the position of your fans. Air movement is very necessary for the health of your plants,
but too strong of a fan can cause wind burn. Direct your fan toward the tops of the plants and​

toward the lights. Never position the fan blowing strongly downward on the leaves.
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Add 1/4 teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide to a quart of water and add it to the tank of six gallons
already in the tank. Wait ten minutes and then turn the water and nutrition solution pump off to
prepare to drain the tank. Poor at least a cup of clean water through each grow cup, onto each
rockwool cube and through the hydroton rocks.​

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Drain or pump the tank empty as possible without damaging the pump by running it dry. Add
two gallons of additional clean water with 1/4 teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide again and then drain
it away too. Again, empty the tank as empty as possible without burning up your pump.​

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Add fresh PH balanced water and nutritional packets as prescribed. PH test it again.
The above 8 steps should repair and remedy any health problems that your plants experienced
within the next two days. Now is the time to try and determine what caused the problem to start
with, by investigating and researching typical hydroponics problems and illnesses. Here are a few
DIAGNOSIS TIPS.​

Typical Hydroponics Problems and Illnesses
Underfeeding and Weak Nutrition​
The entire plant, both upper and lower leaves, will show lime or light green in color.
The plant will not eat, drink or show growth.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.​
Overfeeding, Use of Too Strong Nutrients​
The leaves will curl downward. They grow very dark dull flat green and then the tips show signs
of burn.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.​
Nutritional Lockout​
You know that you have made recent PH adjustments. You might know you may have used too
much of the PH Adjustment Solution. You may have failed to test the PH often enough. You
notice the plants did not eat or drink because they did not consume the same amount of water
they used yesterday. You see rust spots. The large lower leaves are prematurely dying and you
are not in the BLOOMING or FLOWERING stage.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.​
Wind Burn​
You had the fan blowing downward toward the upper side of the leaves, instead of blowing up
through the node spaces or toward the lights. You observe the leaves becoming dry or even
crispy, perhaps shriveling, and the tips curling upward. The leaves do not appear glossy, moist
and vibrant.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.​
Water, Nutrition Solution or Roots Are Discolored Brown Or Have an Unpleasant Odor​
You notice your water is becoming brownish in color, or smells distasteful. Your solution does not
smell pleasant and appetizing like fresh lettuce. Your roots are not the same shade of white that
they once were a week ago.​
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
 
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onthedl0008

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Ive had this happen to me in the past, u can think of it as an ugly duckling! Yank it!
As suggested in an earlier post, this particular plant may have a sickness or other issues. Quarentine if you can.
It also looks like you may have a nute and/or over watering problem!I dont understand why people think they have to add a drip to dwc, the whole point of dwc is u are submerging ur roots full time. Get rid of ur drips and put ur water level an inch below the bottom of ur pots at this stage. Add another 1 but 2 would be better, airstones and make ur water frothy! Seriously, the bubbles created in a dwc are more than sufficient sources for bringing enuff water and nuts to ur top roots.

Hope that helps
 
ilikeblazin

ilikeblazin

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onthedl0008 said:
Ive had this happen to me in the past, u can think of it as an ugly duckling! Yank it!
As suggested in an earlier post, this particular plant may have a sickness or other issues. Quarentine if you can.
It also looks like you may have a nute and/or over watering problem!I dont understand why people think they have to add a drip to dwc, the whole point of dwc is u are submerging ur roots full time. Get rid of ur drips and put ur water level an inch below the bottom of ur pots at this stage. Add another 1 but 2 would be better, airstones and make ur water frothy! Seriously, the bubbles created in a dwc are more than sufficient sources for bringing enuff water and nuts to ur top roots.

Hope that helps
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yeah thanks
n its a bubbleponics system.
the whole point is to run it right to the main rootbound.
i got amazing results with it on my last grow. never had this problem so i will probly be yanking this one:( sad it's one of the purps:(
 
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onthedl0008

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Yea it sucks. No one likes chucking plants plants. Every hydro style is better than soil! I know we all agree on that.I wouldnt like scrapping a purps although never growing one, the smoke is pretty much all on its own haha. Ur grow looks good. best of luck!
 
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onthedl0008

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Will look for it for sure, Its amazing how simple bubble double U c is lmao.Maybe i just created a new style lol.

respect.
 
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