Bubble Hash - Alpha Tech

I know this might be obvious question, but I honestly dunno why 25u comes out the way it does.. I've had good 25u before so im confused at this point. I've got full melt 25u, but most of the time it's contaminated. I'm thinking if I am sure there are no contaminates, the 25u to catch all the mixed heads would be best and easiest and full melt can go all the way to 160u? Is this right?

OK well im just going to go with this plan. It's almost ready for the pour threw the bags. I'm going to use a 220 and squeeze the trim gently and it will run through the 190u. Then I will pour that water through a 25u. If all goes well, this will catch most of the goods and since there is no agitation I'm not worried about contaminates. Let's hope for a clean run

The 2nd thaw is done and it is in the freezer to cool off to 35 degrees before I pour.

It looks like success, there has to be 2g there (I think). Will update with the dry weight

Flash and no flash.

Dude good shit man! That looks incredible! I would do more runs too with the same material! I really wanna try this with 20g of trim I have as well!

Thanks man! The yield was 7.5%, a little less than I wanted but not too had I think for old real dry trim, I can't wait to give it a run with fresher material as I think my trim has kiefed itself by being handled and in a bag for a few months. I bet multiple washes could be done as well. I really like the idea of using the one 25u as the catch bag and not having quality diminish. Here's some dried chunks of the hash. It's 100% full melt so I'm stoked and can't complain. I'm thinking after the thaw, maybe a couple light shakes like shaking a martini would loosen up the trichs that haven't come off and make a bigger yield, will try that next

AlphaPhase said:

I know this might be obvious question, but I honestly dunno why 25u comes out the way it does.. I've had good 25u before so im confused at this point. I've got full melt 25u, but most of the time it's contaminated. I'm thinking if I am sure there are no contaminates, the 25u to catch all the mixed heads would be best and easiest and full melt can go all the way to 160u? Is this right?

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all the microscopic and minute plant matter make it into the 25 bag. You have to spend a long time cleaning those resins to get half melt. That's why its usually garbage.

For the 3 and 4 bag kits., I don't understand why they give a 25 and not a 45 instead. even bubbleman doesn't use a 25 but he sells them like that


The cold makes the trich's fall off. You don't want your trims and trichs in the water for more than 10 min because you lose the soluble terpenes into the water. then less melty and less flavor

AlphaPhase said:

Thanks man! The yield was 7.5%, a little less than I wanted but not too had I think for old real dry trim, I can't wait to give it a run with fresher material as I think my trim has kiefed itself by being handled and in a bag for a few months. I bet multiple washes could be done as well. I really like the idea of using the one 25u as the catch bag and not having quality diminish. Here's some dried chunks of the hash. It's 100% full melt so I'm stoked and can't complain. I'm thinking after the thaw, maybe a couple light shakes like shaking a martini would loosen up the trichs that haven't come off and make a bigger yield, will try that next
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Well done! And thanks for sharing

That's what I've experienced as well with the 25u but with this method for some reason it has come out full melt and super clean. The smell and taste is even good, it could possibly be better maybe, but it's very similar to the hash I've made the regular way with the same material, except much more lighter color (which is so strange for 25u). It's very terpy with the being in water for so long, possibly because it's only in the water for a little while before it freezes and maybe that preserves the terps a bit more? Any input appreciated!

hyroot said:

all the microscopic and minute plant matter make it into the 25 bag. You have to spend a long time cleaning those resins to get half melt. That's why its usually garbage.

For the 3 and 4 bag kits., I don't understand why they give a 25 and not a 45 instead. even bubbleman doesn't use a 25 but he sells them like that


The cold makes the trich's fall off. You don't want your trims and trichs in the water for more than 10 min because you lose the soluble terpenes into the water. then less melty and less flavor

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Hey AlphaPhase. I love what you are doing here. A friend on another forum pointed me towards this thread. It's very interesting. Any new tech and new discoveries is a good thing in my opinion. I wish I had the creativity to try and dream up new methods.

I can't help but think though, is this really all worth it? Does the quality change at all? I mean a well made iwe should have little to no contaminant in the first place. Especially if you are using a pressurized spray bottle. Maybe I am just impatient but that seems like a ton of unnecessary waiting. However, patience truly is a virtue.





As far as what bags to use when catching all heads together, I'd use the 45. and if you have a 160 bag I'd use that too. The more contaminant catches the better.

even when using a 190, I get junk in my 160. I think you could benefit from using another screen

He seems to be getting really good results, as far as contaminants go, because the pictures to me look to be pretty clean. The more bags he uses, I'm sure he will get a better result as far as contaminants go but I like the idea that he isn't isolating each trichome by bag size. Sure he can use all the other bags and get a clean 160,120, 90, 73, 45 and such but he has alllllll of them at once. I think that's pretty cool.

I want to try this hopefully soon but I need to get a 25 bag or something similar. Maybe a 25u strainer of some sort

Thanks herbmon! The way I came up with the idea was because I hurt my hand a while ago and have some nerve problems. It was fine for a while and I always hand stir my gear since I don't have a washing machine. My hand started hurting so bad a couple weeks ago and I really wanted to make some hash but couldn't figure out how without using my hand. So I smoked some goodies and the idea came to me, I just wanted a way that was very little work at the time. I wasn't expecting it to work but when I did I figured I'd try again and it keeps getting better (for reasons I'm still figuring out lol). I'm not sure if it's practical, but it worked for the reasons I wanted it too which was nice. Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely give it a try with different bag microns over time and see what works best, there really is low contaminates but anything that can be better is always what I'm looking for.

Thanks for the kind words warmachine! I loved only using one catch bag and having it come out nice. The less work the better for me at this point in time

Heres the hash after I worked it into a ball and had it drying since I made it (other than what I smoked). It worked nicely into a ball and remained a very very nice light tan color. I was very surprised how light it is compared to the hash I made with the same trim and using multiple bags. The classic method was great but much more darker than this for some reason (it's even lighter than the pic makes it to be but I can't get it to come out the true color in the pic) I can't figure out how it's so white after drying/pressing only using the 25u?any ideas?

Here's some hash I made today using the regular stiring method. It did come out very nice but I was surprised at comparing the yields. It's still too early to tell but from eyeballing it, I think it will be on par with the freezing method. I used 2 oz to make this, but I also did 3 runs. Between the 3 runs there is more yield, but comparing the first run using the stir method and the one run using the no stir method, it is very close. I think I will try doing a alpha tek run again but instead of Re freezing, I will pour after the freeze, add new water, freeze again and then pour and see if it yields anything doing a 2nd run this way. The two are very close in quality. Also, the trim I am using yields zero resin above 160u. I used 220, 160, 73 and 25 this run and nothing was in the 160, 1/3 ended up in the 25 and 2/3 ended up in the 73u. I need to learn this trim a little more, I'm also losing quite a bit of resin below 25u and I don't have any smaller microns to use. Damn sativa problems.

Woops, I forgot the picture.

I'm not sure if I mentioned that the alpha tek method appears to have less contaminates. I'll have to get the scope and check because zooming in on the pics appears to have contaminates.

Well, it's not as bad as the pics make it look but there are some contaminates. Sorry for all the multiple posts, I wanted to make one post with all this info but it got out of hand lol

Looking really good Alpha! Your right, it does seem there are very few pieces of contaminants! I think your tech worked out a little bit better to be honest! I'm trying to get a 25u bubble bag to try it out. I'd rather a strainer that is 25u to be honest though

Right on warmachine! Let me know how it goes, I will be doing another run soon and refilling with fresh water and freezing again after the first pour. I figure it can't hurt and if it does yield something that would be excellent. A strainer would be great, I'll have to look around to see if I can find one, I didn't know that strainers were made with that small of a micron but that would make the job much easier no doubt!

Sounds good! I'll be doing it with roughly 20g of shake/trim. Im not sure if they make an actually 25u strainer but it shouldnt to hard to fancy one up Im thinking Maybe take a bag and wrap it around a strainer of some sort, just a little imagination will take you far as you know

Lip smackin good!!!