Bottled Water Gallons

rocknratm

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Well... my friend really let me down here, he used distilled water. I used purified water. He recently did research finding that spring water is actually the best bottled gallon water that you can use... ph is best, and there are trace elements that are necessary for the plant to allow intake of the water (distilled is dead water, the plant cannot absorb it properly). Even purified water is not ideal.
Just figured id post this and see if I as the only one who didnt know this. I bet over 50% of the problems in the plant problem section are related to people using the wrong type of bottled water (or tap water)....
 

m420p

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Yes Distilled water is "dead" but if you add Cal/Mag, it replaces the Calcium, Iron and Magnesium(3 very important minerals for growing) that was taken out during the distilling process. I wouldn't use spring water, you never know the ratio of trace elements in it. But Spring water is definitely better than tap!
 

BeaverHuntr

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Yes Distilled water is "dead" but if you add Cal/Mag, it replaces the Calcium, Iron and Magnesium(3 very important minerals for growing) that was taken out during the distilling process. I wouldn't use spring water, you never know the ratio of trace elements in it. But Spring water is definitely better than tap!
This guys is right I use Reverse Osmosis water and it does filter out a lot of trace elements but thats why you add back Calcium / Magnesium when you use R/O Water. And Spring water isnt the best , Rain Water is, at least from what I heard.
 

MsBBB

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I use tap water that I have bottled and let sit for 2+ days. There might be some small advantages (IMO) for using RO or bottled spring water, but I use regular tap water. The problems that I have had with my plants were not water related but was the results of something I did or didn't do, which caused the problems.
 

m420p

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Ya, Some ppl can use their tap, but my tap has a ppm of up to 700 so theres no way I can use it, tried and killed a couple of my plants.
 

irieie

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there is really not that much of a huge difference between distilled water and ro water. the ro that i use has a ppm of about 15-20 while distilled has a ppm of 0. either way you should be supplementing with cal mag. some tap water is ok it depends where you live the tapwater that i have is too high in minerals for me to use so i use distilled. if you want to know if your water is good, check it with a ppm meter for a more detailed look you can request an analysis from your water company which will break down everything in it.
 

mr2shim

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puffenuff

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My tap water tastes gross. I buy purified from the lil asian lady shop down the street. 20 cents a gallon. She also sells water passes - $20 for 200 gallons. my plants are happy drinking it.
 

BeaverHuntr

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My tap water tastes gross. I buy purified from the lil asian lady shop down the street. 20 cents a gallon. She also sells water passes - $20 for 200 gallons. my plants are happy drinking it.
My first couple DWC grows I would use the local water and Ice store too.. I finally invested in a good R/O system I got tired of loading up 5 gallon jugs of water in 115 degree AZ heat.
 

greennewfie

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lol yeah i guess, already thought about that but gotta order one online no stores around here has them and they are not cheap from what i seen.. any particular meters you suggest?
 

rocknratm

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from what my friend told me, drinking distilled dehydrates people.... and planyts really cant absorb it. I think it was the chemistry, how it is deionized (I think back to chem class in school), but im not sure. If adding calmag changes that, maybe that helps. Im not sure, I will have him enail me links or get them from him to show the study, it was very very recent from what he said
 

mr2shim

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from what my friend told me, drinking distilled dehydrates people.... and planyts really cant absorb it. I think it was the chemistry, how it is deionized (I think back to chem class in school), but im not sure. If adding calmag changes that, maybe that helps. Im not sure, I will have him enail me links or get them from him to show the study, it was very very recent from what he said
I drink distilled have been for a long time. Never been dehydrated and my plant seems to love it, drinks about 1/4 gallon a day and it's only 18 days from seed. I think you might be thinking of deionized water.

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BeaverHuntr

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How does any water dehydrate you? its just water with all the minerals filtered out Its still H2O. R/O and Distilled water are the best way to grow and follow a nutrient calculator, most nutrient companies test their nutrients using a starting point of 0 PPM. In hydro you basically add back a lot of minerals, Tap water you start out with all sorts of minerals and chlorine. Google your cities water report and see for yourself.
 

mr2shim

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How does any water dehydrate you? its just water with all the minerals filtered out Its still H2O. R/O and Distilled water are the best way to grow and follow a nutrient calculator, most nutrient companies test their nutrients using a starting point of 0 PPM. In hydro you basically add back a lot of minerals, Tap water you start out with all sorts of minerals and chlorine. Google your cities water report and see for yourself.
I'm not even sure how water can dehydrate someone... That's like saying eat 80 cheeseburgers and you'll still be hungry.

Distillation, reverse osmosis are processes to remove minerals, contaminants and impurities from water.

Distilled is probably the best you can use for your plants. It's pure H2O, and contains nothing else. THEN you add nutes to your water. So then you have a perfect nute solution. I can tell you flat out exactly how much cal-mag, iron, boron, phosphate is in my water because it's written on the bottle and I use distilled (0) ppm water.


Tap water is by far the worst. That is basically filtered shit and piss water so they have to use an ass ton of chemicals to get it to be drinkable. Depending on the water and wherever your city pulls fresh water from ppms can be anywhere from 100-700+
 
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