Botanicare KIND - Missing all micronutrients except iron?

36OhBuds

36OhBuds

Active Member
Guy at hydro store was pitching this stuff to me hard because they said they're not carrying CNS17 grow/bloom anymore (just ripe) and that they're trying to push the KIND formulas. I went for it because I like having a base I can adjust freely to adjust my N in flowering depending on plants and how long into flowering they stretch.

I quote him: "Use this and you won't need anything else"

Now I notice it's missing almost all micronutrients.

Specifically:

Manganese (Mn), Boron (B), Molybdenum (Mo), Copper (Cu), Zinc (Zn) and Chlorine (Cl - i know this is in my water, but @ 2ppm).

That's kind of stupid, right? What can I use to get the micros in there, or are they already there and not listed?
 
36OhBuds

36OhBuds

Active Member
Analysis:

KIND Base:
Guaranteed Analysis:

  • Total Nitrogen (N) 4.0%
  • 0.4% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
  • 3.6% Nitrate Nitrogen
  • Calcium (Ca) 5.0%
Derived from: Calcium Nitrate, Ammonium Nitrate
KIND Bloom:
Guaranteed Analysis:

  • Available Phosphate (P205) 6.0%
  • Soluble Potash (K2O) 6.0%
  • Magnesium (Mg) 1.5%
  • 1.5% Water Soluble Magnesium
  • Sulfur (S) 2.75%
  • Iron (Fe) 0.12%
  • 0.12% Chelated Iron
Derived from: Monopotassium Phosphate, Potassium Sulfate, Magnesium Sulfate, Iron EDTA, Seaweed Extract (Ascophyllum nodosum)
KIND Grow:
Guaranteed Analysis:

  • Total Nitrogen (N) 2.0%
  • 0.6% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
  • 1.4% Nitrate Nitrogen
  • Available Phosphate (P205) 2.0%
  • Soluble Potash (K2O) 4.0%
  • Magnesium (Mg) 1.5%
  • 1.5% Water Soluble Magnesium
  • Sulfur (S) 2.0%
  • Iron (Fe) 0.12%
  • 0.12% Chelated Iron
Derived from: Ammonium Nitrate, Potassium Nitrate, Monopotassium Phosphate, Potassium Sulfate, Magnesium Sulfate, Iron EDTA, Seaweed Extract (Ascophyllum nodosum)
 
36OhBuds

36OhBuds

Active Member
Hmm I see. I just finished a run with CNS17 and I have to say I LOVED the results. I figured botanicare might have something here and I was hating having to adjust my nitrogen levels myself by mixing their grow and bloom so this came great.

Well is there anything that contains all the micros?
 
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ThaDiggidy

Member
KIND is not missing any of the 72 trace minerals (micro-nutrients). The micro-nutrients are all found in the grow and the bloom. Remember that labels don't always contain everything that is in the product. In addition the NPK's are just guaranteed minimums.

Check out this link to a video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rAK0aES4r2w
 
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Grow 4 Life

New Member
36OhBuds said:
Guy at hydro store was pitching this stuff to me hard because they said they're not carrying CNS17 grow/bloom anymore (just ripe) and that they're trying to push the KIND formulas. I went for it because I like having a base I can adjust freely to adjust my N in flowering depending on plants and how long into flowering they stretch.

I quote him: "Use this and you won't need anything else"

Now I notice it's missing almost all micronutrients.

Specifically:

Manganese (Mn), Boron (B), Molybdenum (Mo), Copper (Cu), Zinc (Zn) and Chlorine (Cl - i know this is in my water, but @ 2ppm).

That's kind of stupid, right? What can I use to get the micros in there, or are they already there and not listed?
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I was given a KIND brochure from Botanicare that says it has N, P, K, Sulfur, Cal, Mag, Boron, Copper, Iron, Manganese, Molybdenum, and Zinc.
 
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budzysegal

Member
I will be using the botanicare KIND line here on my coming grow. I went to the Botanicare site and looked up their pre developed recipe under "KIND expert Coco" (soil guideline too.) And I picked up all the boosters. You can grow from start to finish with just KIND Base, grow, and Bloom... However your plants intake may need more than just the 3 alone provide easily.

Here's a link http://www.botanicare.com/Nutrients/Nutrient-Calculator.aspx
 
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