Legendary info right here.Well it sure isn't cheap.. to do a complete switch if you went with the Optic Vero 29 in a 500 Watt multi-fixture design, it's gonna run you close to $900 a piece for each fixture.. I paid a little less but I had to do some arm twisting.
If you are a DIY guy.. you can save yourself likely a couple hundred bucks I'd imagine using the same parts. I did inspect the unit I own and just like the manufacturer claims.. everything they are using... every part is high quality. They are really built well. The unit itself has a cover with a latch that is easy to open and you can inspect and see every piece, every part.. no secrets there.
A decent ballast, something real nice like a Hydrofarm Phantom 1000Watt 240v/120v HPS ballast.. a good air cooled reflector.. and a premium HPS bulb like a Ushio or a Hortilux all together is going to run someone about $450-$500.. so the Optic LED isn't twice as expensive.. but it's close.. you gotta figure though too.. You're replacing that HPS lamp once a year.. so over 5 years the LED will pay for itself in bulb replacement costs and electric savings. You're running a true 500 watts on a 120v circuit at only 2.9amps pulling from your panel!! A 1000 watt digital ballast running HPS pulls 8.9amps at 120v for comparison. Now these numbers aren't 100% typical of all LED power savings.. the Vero 29 COB chips have proven to be more efficient than any other type of LED chipset for grow light use on the market.
I expect the COB chips to last about 2 years the way I will use them.. so while they will get replaced.. It will take twice as long and likely cost about the same as the price of the LED chips will only go down, not up.
But if you have something like a KIND led light and you're say a few years onto ownership and a cluster of LEDs go bad.. then what do you do? You cry. I called the KIND company and asked them... whats your bumper to bumber full warranty on your product? how long are you guaranteeing me that this thing will work without any cost to me if there's a problem... the answer... 90 days. This was in regards to a light that cost almost $2k btw.
Didn't seem like a very KIND reply. Those types of products.. those kind of LED lights.. scare me. I couldn't buy something like that.
Also wanna note as I have said it already I think but.. anyone trying to scope out the manuacturer is going to have a hard time doing so today and possibly this next week.. they were bought out, snatched up by a larger company.. so they did say before they had to switch servers and were having some email/tech related switch over transitional type issues. So if you can't access the site or server.. that is why. That should be resolved shortly according to the rep I spoke to just recently regarding my order.. I ordered mine just as the switch over between companies started to happen. It's always a pain in the ass for the customer when stuff like this happens anywhere I think.. but should all be back to normal soon. This is the light here at a working link that I bought, that I was referring to.
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Sorry for thread hijacking greenghost420. =)
I tend to ramble on about things I like sometimes. Great thread tho.. I was reading through it all last night. I like what you're doing here.
Boston Baked Beanz
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Legendary info right here.
podfather20
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@greenghost420 i sent you a message bro cause i thought it was something mite like
D_Urbmon
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But was it cannabis infused coconut oilwhile were off subject, if anyone is looking for some new loob, try coconut oil....
I wonder if that would get you/her/him high?
greenghost420
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theres a homie on fb making cannalube, says its good shit
greenghost420
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MonsterDrank
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that's the same stuff that most of the LED grow light manufacturers are using when they sell you a light that is destined to fail in 24 months or less.
"Thank you.. Come again!"
I'm being generous tho... they usually don't last 24 months. lol
they'll make a huge difference in that footprint you're establishing. your plants underneath that light getting hit with HPS as well.. are going to have some of the best looking, most resinous coated buds you may have ever seen unless you've run HPS and MH together before and experienced that type of benefit. of course other environmental factors have to be kept in check as well when working with so much light.. temps especially. having a good air conditioner is essential IMO. having 2 of those and an HPS in flower.. that's awesome. is that the 500w Chameleon? and what kinda HPS setup are you running? I like it.
Clockboy Orange
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Maybe you should pony up for a real LED instead of the cheap Mars or Vipars. My lights been running for 2 years straight without a hitch.
It is like buying a new car but buying the shittiest model on the lot and then you drive it off and get pissed because there are no power windows or alarm on it.
MonsterDrank
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Where's these baked beans anyhow? They really made in Boston? =)
I'm Northeast USA myself.
Money is certainly not a factor here my friend. I was referring to the industry in general and how sh*tty it is. Most of the LED grow lights on the market will fail and require service within 24 months. Period.
I'm Northeast USA myself.
You obviously didn't read my other posts from all the way back.. one page.. yesterday.. I did. But thanks for the reply anyhow.
Money is certainly not a factor here my friend. I was referring to the industry in general and how sh*tty it is. Most of the LED grow lights on the market will fail and require service within 24 months. Period.
Clockboy Orange
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I have more than 11 LED lights from 5 various companies so from where I sit I don't see a problem.
greenghost420
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im seeing a shit ton of mars breaking down. cant say iv seen any others fail though...
greenghost420
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Where's these baked beans anyhow? They really made in Boston? =)
I'm Northeast USA myself.
im getting ready to run my rare darkness male with about nine or 10 moms. thinking my 1st official drop will be on 4/20/2016
MonsterDrank
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Unfortunately every single person I know in real life.. who has bought one.. has sent theirs in for service within the first year.. that's what originally had deterred me.. so I researched the hell out of LED for a long time before I pulled the trigger. I read all kinds of scenarios where the customer had to send in their light prematurely. You can watch grow diary type videos on Youtube and the journal will just end because the light has to get sent out for warranty type repair.I saw one guy actually take a hammer to his panel out of frustration and just smash it to pieces. You're right about the Mars panel.. those were the worst in terms of failure rates.. but also some of the cheapest panels available.
Everyone's experience is different tho.. it could also possibly be that there are many LED customers out there that are happy and content.. so much so that they do not say anything about it.. but the lack of successful grow journals showing really nice harvests with people using nothing but LED lights also deterred me from pulling the trigger... there's a few really nice grows out here.. but not many showing someone producing a really successful 10 plant+ grow. I wanted nothing more than to see results.. this youtube journal here was probably my favorite in terms of finished product and a successful harvest.
I'm really big into tech.. all things tech.. so I would love to see the LED market evolve to replace HID lighting. I don't know if that will happen.. but it would be amazing if they could create a light so efficient and perfect it in such a way that it truly does replace HID. It would of course have to make sense not only in technology and specifications but be affordable enough of an option for the customers to want to adopt it.
How was the RareDankness? You had some females you harvested too I take it? How was the smoke?
greenghost420
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mostly 1/4 of the leds go out. uually its a driver
greenghost420
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rare darkness was one of the best packs iv ran. got seven ladies, all of em had that nice gdp/ape type of smell/flav. i had a journal on here somewhere...
D_Urbmon
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haha you're talking about realstyles smashing his mars panel.
he makes some pretty nice DIY units which he jokingly calls white power as they use a "white" light and provides all the info on how to make them. I've thought about making my own but I don't know shit about electricity and am afraid to burn my house down.
I know the mars aren't even close to the best units out there but they perform well for their price. I'm quite satisfied with mine ..... but I've only gotten 2 runs out of it so far.
he makes some pretty nice DIY units which he jokingly calls white power as they use a "white" light and provides all the info on how to make them. I've thought about making my own but I don't know shit about electricity and am afraid to burn my house down.
I know the mars aren't even close to the best units out there but they perform well for their price. I'm quite satisfied with mine ..... but I've only gotten 2 runs out of it so far.
greenghost420
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im satisfied with my mars results as well but mine runs way to hot. i have a fan blowing right into one of the vents and theres hot air blowing out the other side at all times, along with the 4 internal fans. leds shouldnt be porducing alot of heat imo. im def interested in these vero diy!
kgp
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Have you flowered with it or only veg?