BOMB MANGO but is harsh and has no smell or flavor WTF?

I harvested this mango clone 2 weeks ago tonight. I used fox farms nutes grow big, big bloom, and tiger bloom, and also molasses. 2 weeks prior to harvest i flushed once then fed with regular water until harvest. is this where i wet wrong? was I supposed to flush a lot more times? Do I flush every time I water? It dried for about 5 days but it was a small plant so the nugs were not big at all. then put in jars and opened for 20min once a day. this bud does not really smell strong at all. could that be the strain? it did not smell when it was growing either.

oh and I forgot to tell you what you came here for. its harsh as hell. I will be harvesting another plant in about 2 weeks. How do I get the good smell and taste?

how dry is it right now? do the stems snap?

of the little smell you get, what does it smell like? and if you crack a nug open does it smell strong?

i would probably say it just needs a longer cure

yes the stems snap. I made a box to dry in and everytime they got crispy on the outside i would jar them up for a few hours. then out to dry again for about 5 days. I cant even explain the smell when i open the jar. strange smell but not bad. when i crack a nug open it smells a lot stronger and kinda like coffee.

will the harshness go away with longer cure?

harnshess seems to be from flushing with clean water no nutes abt 1.5 weeks, flush regularly not just water... put alot of water thru it

Damn that sux they sure look good though...........and I doubt the harshness will go away....after I dry them but before jarring them I smoke a couple nugs all the time and they are never harsh just not as tasty as when cured all the way........your flush was probably not thorough enough......next time use a flushing agent...or lots o water

I don't think the flushing is the issue. Not only did you use organic nutes, you didn't feed them food with their water for 2 weeks. So unless you only watered them 2-3 times in that 2 weeks I'm quite certain your problem was not flushing enough. There is plenty of debate too on if flushing is even necessary with organic nutes (i'm leaning on the side that says it isn't)

You're probably just curing it wrong, you don't go from drying a few days to jar for a few hours and then back on the racks for almost a week. Everything I've read says you dry for about a week, then you go to jars and burp once a day for a week or 2. Then you spend another couple weeks at least in the jars, but burping less. People seem to agree that you should cure in a jar (after drying) for at least 3 weeks straight (with burping, I just meant no drying out of the jar). They may have also become too dry, when they are super dry I hear they get harsher. If they became too dry you will have to use some tricks to rehydrate them, I don't know how, but I read of people using banana or orange peels in the jars to help them get moisture back.

alright guys sounds like the flush was my problem then I got 50 seeds from a friend and grew one out and its better looking than this mango. Smells like PEZ candy. Ill be sure to flush more on this grow

what kind of soil were you using?

you flushed,- and it was a problem,??????
or you did'nt flush

He flushed once, then watered without nutes until harvest. Does anyone else notice like I did that he using a really really abnormal dry/cure method? I truly believe most of this harshness is because it dried out to much and there was no curing done. Plenty of people do not flush at all and feed up until harvest, and they do fine because they cure well.

im pretty sure only the big bloom is organic. the grow big and tiger bloom are not. i would put them in jars just when they would get crispy, then back to hang dry, if they got crispy id jar em up again. This is my second grow so its all new to me still. they are not too dry. using roots organic soil.

it never dried out and bacame crispy it has a good density to it not crispy at all but dosnt tear apart

I don't want to come off as rude, I'm a newbie on my first grow for my patient as well, I'm just reciprocating what I've read from lots of people and have been mentored on. So I will say: I've never heard of anyone using a curing process that involved taking the bud out of the jar for longer than just enough time to rearrange them and lock them back in there. Pretty sure curing works like this (basically), take dried marijuana (hung in a cool dark place with indirect airflow for up to a week) and fill up a jar without packing them in. Then close the lid tight and stick place the jar in a cool dark place for the first week or 2, while burping the jar for a few minutes once a day or as needed (take them out and put them back in a different order once every little while (can't recall how often)). After a week or 2 continue to cure in jars, and burp less often. Ultimately most people do this for 3 weeks at least (that is virtually 3 weeks in the jars without spending more than a few minutes out that whole 3 weeks). So yeah, from what I've read, heard, been told, etc. that is how it is supposed to go. And based on all that I would say that your weed got hit with improper curing and ultimately became too dry because of it.

IT DID NOT GET TOO DRY! im going to stick with my flushing being the problem. im pretty sure the slower the dry the better so when the outsides get crispy during dry, sealing them for an hour replaces the moisture thus slowing the dry process. ya? once they were dry to my likings, i then sealed and burped once a day.

but you aren't supposed to jar them for such a short amount of time, like i said -dry up to a week, then in jars for at least 3 (some people do this for 2 months)
doing curing for weeks like this is supposed to help convert sugars and nasty crap and shit, and bring out the smell and flavor and bring down the harshness
and since plenty of people tote how they nute until harvest, and have perfectly good bud after a nice cure, I think the problem you've had was a funky dry/cure gig
how long have you had them in jars since the first drying period after harvest?
we need to get you some people in here with more than a few hundreds posts, try seeking out some reputable players on this site if you have to (because I'm very certain it wasn't the flushing, 2 weeks with just water should have been plenty, as long as you did it at least twice a week).

also if theres no taste you prolly harvested to early cause uncle ben says the cure shouldnt effect taste that much if at all

Uncle Ben said:

Question a a recent PM and my response. Statement - "some say it is chlorophyll or N that makes a smoke harsh. What are the processes that occur doing a "cure"." My reponse follows:

You left out what I consider the most important, the cannabanoid profile, terpenes, phenolics, aldehydes, amount of tars, etc. Whose to say the smoke profile isn't driven by those substances? Folks will express what they feel, not what is factual. I think curing is based more on hype and romance than anything else. Humor me, take a ripe bud and dry it in the sun, for as long as it takes to make it smokable. Roll one up and tell me what you think. Of course if you've overdone salts, you'll probably find it not smooth.

The Mexicans don't "cure" their weed, they just place it upright against a shack wall in the hot sun to dry, pack it into kilos and ship. Some of the smoothest weed I've smoked is Mexican. The Mexicans don't over fertilize either.....now enter the flushing drill, an attempt by Dutch growers (and now a paradigm that will not die) to atone for their cultural sins.

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408stein said:

I harvested this mango clone 2 weeks ago tonight. I used fox farms nutes grow big, big bloom, and tiger bloom, and also molasses. 2 weeks prior to harvest i flushed once then fed with regular water until harvest. is this where i wet wrong? was I supposed to flush a lot more times? Do I flush every time I water? It dried for about 5 days but it was a small plant so the nugs were not big at all. then put in jars and opened for 20min once a day. this bud does not really smell strong at all. could that be the strain? it did not smell when it was growing either.

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Do you have an ionizer in your flowering room? If you do- this is the reason for no taste or smell. I guarantee it! Otherwise, everything you are doing sounds good. I have grown mango in the past with FoxFarm nutes and it was very stinky- like fruit. I'm not sure about the harshness though- mine was pretty smooth.

its all still curing. it has been curing now for 1 week.