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JHashmore

JHashmore

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rollinfunk said:
I'm running organics too, but I have my SSDD in 1 gallon pots. I was actually hoping for a male. I do way better growing in big pots so I'm sure I've been stressing the hell out of them.
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If you are growing organic in 1 gallon pots I suggest you top dress weekly, I use home made earth worm castings and use the dragonfly earth medicine stuff, i like the natural mystik for foliar once a week for IPM and the veg and fat flowers for foliars maybe every other week when they are applicable. I have witnessed with 1 gallon soil grows that when the roots max out in the pot, in a late veg or early/mid flower it seems the plants go through a stress event and don't look so good, drop lower leaves to promote growth at the top and plants stall for a bit but if you are actively top dressing often youll notice that the feeder roots at the soil level come alive and will eat your top dress quickly and you won't notice stress. Or if stress has occured the plants will rebound once you start actively top dressing. The plants will eat the feed pretty quickly so youll always have room top dress later.

Cannabis is a top feeder anyway so as long as those roots are used to searching and you are top dressing ( 3/4 cup castings with some amendments like alfalfa/rock dust/malted barley etc or something like Gaia green 444 or power bloom or the DEM stuff ($$$ so i use for foliar) you will be golden and will experience way less stress to the plant and it can actually grow for a loooong time in a 1 gallon doing this. If you forget a top dress and those roots aren't really surging with life a compost tea fills in but be sure to top dress to get those roots going and mulch over that, I use either leaves or fir bark mulch which is a nice indoor mulch, i dont green mulch 1 gallons.

I use leaves outside, indoors just be careful with leaves cause they can have insects on them, hasnt been a problem yet but spider mites live in my yard outside (blackberries,strawberries) but never seem to go after my weed plants outdoors, ive got companion plants and herbs and flowers around them though.

Switching to flower after week 2 seems to work well for 1 gallons. It allows room for thr roots to strwtch in the pot during early flower and fill it up then the roots switch to eating your top dress with minimal stress.

I used to think 1 gallon was no good but this summer I experimented and kept plants alive for months outside in 1 gallons top dressing to see how they did and they will continue growing for a long time top dressing. At the end of the day 1 gallon is not my preferred soil size but if you are just looking to see what a strain is like they work well, they are just high maintenance.
 
GrowRijt

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SCJedi said:
You can also pay someone to screen the gender of both plants. It doesn't cost much and if it comes back with one male and one female then you know.
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That will definitely get you the sex, which it sounds like he has. But you still need to flower them out to see which one is the mom leaner. They can both be female, but only one is identical to mom. ;)
 
mrrager420

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Nutbag Poster said:
I got one of those with a Goldstar Snow Lotus and I read of two other cases with the GSL. Now this one too. I wonder what to make of that...seems to be popping up more often than one would expect.
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Funny after i made the post i started reading other posts in this thread and came across your post about it. This is my first time experiencing this but i hear it's not uncommon.
 
mrrager420

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GrowRijt said:
pretty sure you need to grow them out, take clones of each, and flower the moms. From there you should be able to tell which is which.
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Thanks, I thought of that but was hoping there was a quicker way lol. Probably won't end up cloning either. I've got my hands full right now and don't want the extra work. I don't think i'd be missing much from the BB Indica mom anyway. Now if this happened with a x that has a mom i actually want, its clone time!:peace:
 
GrowRijt

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mrrager420 said:
Thanks, I thought of that but was hoping there was a quicker way lol. Probably won't end up cloning either. I've got my hands full right now and don't want the extra work. I don't think i'd be missing much from the BB Indica mom anyway. Now if this happened with a x that has a mom i actually want, its clone time!:peace:
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As with most things cannabis. It all starts with patience. Lol.
I guess my only question is why bothering growing it if you aren’t interested in the cross? If Bodhi bothered to breed with it. It’s probably the whip. happy hunting. :bigjoint:
 
mrrager420

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SCJedi said:
You can also pay someone to screen the gender of both plants. It doesn't cost much and if it comes back with one male and one female then you know.
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Sex has already been determined. The vigorous twin is female. All 5 have been sexed except the runt twin but i just assumed it's a female sense its twin is.
 
mrrager420

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GrowRijt said:
As with most things cannabis. It all starts with patience. Lol.
I guess my only question is why bothering growing it if you aren’t interested in the cross? If Bodhi bothered to breed with it. It’s probably the whip. happy hunting. :bigjoint:
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Patience is not a problem for me. If anything i'm too patient. But it's also smart to find out if there is a quicker more efficient way of doing something. We're all learning. lol and i never said i wasn't interested in the cross. If the x is that fire i have more Blueberry Snow to go through. I did grow the Blueberry Mountain out and didn't really care for that x. But i'm hoping the SL male brings our more desirable traits. Guess i'll find out eventually.
 
GrowRijt

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mrrager420 said:
Patience is not a problem for me. If anything i'm too patient. But it's also smart to find out if there is a quicker more efficient way of doing something. We're all learning. lol and i never said i wasn't interested in the cross. If the x is that fire i have more Blueberry Snow to go through. I did grow the Blueberry Mountain out and didn't really care for that x. But i'm hoping the SL male brings our more desirable traits. Guess i'll find out eventually.
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All true. Constant learning and improving. Sometimes you get a gut feeling it’ll be meh. I have a friend who grows a ton of seeds out and keeps nothing. None. It drives me crazy cuz I’m a strain horder. I just always find a reason to keep a cut.
 
Nutbag Poster

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mrrager420 said:
Funny after i made the post i started reading other posts in this thread and came across your post about it. This is my first time experiencing this but i hear it's not uncommon.
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When you say Blue Snow, is that another name for Blue Lotus (Blueberry x SL) or something different? I wonder if the Snow Lotus male can cause that to happen or is that strictly a trait of the mother and how she makes her "eggs". Or would it be a result of Bodhi's growing conditions when making the seeds? I find this a pretty cool topic.
 
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Nutbag Poster

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mrrager420 said:
Thanks, I thought of that but was hoping there was a quicker way lol. Probably won't end up cloning either. I've got my hands full right now and don't want the extra work. I don't think i'd be missing much from the BB Indica mom anyway. Now if this happened with a x that has a mom i actually want, its clone time!:peace:
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Wow...don't underestimate your score. You got yourself an ELITE Blueberry clone! Elite enough that of all the blueberry cuts out there (how many thousands of DJ BB seeds do you suppose have been popped on the west coast), he chose THAT ONE to use. Dude...you hit the jackpot.
 
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CopaGenetics

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JHashmore said:
I had been thinking SSDD as it's pretty universally loved and I figured its a good representation of bodhi's deal. I wonder is the reputation with being finicky honey pot prom date an agreed upon trait.

I personally don't mind and feel confident in my methods but I would like to he able to hand them off to people without a big disclaimer. I grow organic soil and sometime I wonder if some strains get a bad rep because they are lighter feeders and hydro growers have to figure out what they need.

I think alot of us are on the organic tip but lots grow with salts and I know bodhi is growing in some sort of organic soil style. Then again maybe people are having these issues all over, to be honest some plants that are not as vigorous or are weird looking turn out to be great in the effects department.
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I can agree on a lot of you points but also would like to share that I grow in Promix with some worm dirt added in. I have always grown in dirt, never hydro. Back in the 80's and 90's I used Sunshine 2 and 5. Havent seen that around in years. I starting using Nectar for the gods nutes in the last few years and like th eresults. I have always used Maxicrop and Superthrive for micros. Never heard of Cal Mag or Silica until recently and it has never mattered for me. Maybe the polyhybrids of today need calmag and silica I dont know. Back in the day we had not a lot of choices like today. There was only one single source for grow supplies back then and it was called Worms Way in Worcester, MA. I remember getting kicked out of the store for asking about "the other crop" instead of mentioning tomatoes or "veggies". My point is that I never cater to a single plant in a grow, I always use the same shit, every time. Most of the plants I have grown (in the thousands over the years) have liked this setup. KISS. SSDD dont like my regimen. I do. I also like SSDD smoke so I deal with it. Cookie strains sometimes have a challenge with me and Querkle hates what I am doing. Will I change? nope. Do I care? nope. There are so many strains that live up to their "weed" roots that it really dont matter either way. I may try a LOS or a bed in the future but until then I am happy with my results. This is a Bodhi thread and I will keep it Bodhi related. I have a lot of experience with SSDD and SSDD x GG4 and love them both. Puff on. :bigjoint:
 
JHashmore

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CopaGenetics said:
I can agree on a lot of you points but also would like to share that I grow in Promix with some worm dirt added in. I have always grown in dirt, never hydro. Back in the 80's and 90's I used Sunshine 2 and 5. Havent seen that around in years. I starting using Nectar for the gods nutes in the last few years and like th eresults. I have always used Maxicrop and Superthrive for micros. Never heard of Cal Mag or Silica until recently and it has never mattered for me. Maybe the polyhybrids of today need calmag and silica I dont know. Back in the day we had not a lot of choices like today. There was only one single source for grow supplies back then and it was called Worms Way in Worcester, MA. I remember getting kicked out of the store for asking about "the other crop" instead of mentioning tomatoes or "veggies". My point is that I never cater to a single plant in a grow, I always use the same shit, every time. Most of the plants I have grown (in the thousands over the years) have liked this setup. KISS. SSDD dont like my regimen. I do. I also like SSDD smoke so I deal with it. Cookie strains sometimes have a challenge with me and Querkle hates what I am doing. Will I change? nope. Do I care? nope. There are so many strains that live up to their "weed" roots that it really dont matter either way. I may try a LOS or a bed in the future but until then I am happy with my results. This is a Bodhi thread and I will keep it Bodhi related. I have a lot of experience with SSDD and SSDD x GG4 and love them both. Puff on. :bigjoint:
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Yeah for sure, if you've got your method and it works for most of your gear with the odd outlier I think most people would cruise on and not worry. I think the direction you have gone is a very common way that people who are new to gardening in general or who are coming from a hydro background end of choosing. Promix or peat based are essentially soilless mediums and adding nutes and bottled micos with worm castings kind of mimicks the a LOS style grow medium. I think thats why people need to add calmag etc or think they do. There was kind of an entire indoor growing industry built around growing one plant with a lot of people who didnt grow any other type of garden. Big Ag grows in a similar style with salt fertilizer and its easy to think thats just the way plants are grown but there is like entire movements dedicated to showing thats not the case like permaculture. The soil science is only just becoming a thing, how did noone figure out there was microbiology and mycelium working in a soil ecosystem for so long is crazy to me.

I think the ongoing nature of the no till or LOS or Korean natural farming or whatever one happens to be calling it creates a soil with a more developed microbiology and mycorrihizea. Then the plants can be left to work out what nutrients they need themselves. It would be interesting to see what the no till or an organic grower growing outside in the ground comes up against in terms of deficiencies with plants that have a reputation for this. Ive grown some pure sativas in the LOS and have had no issues. I guess this type of growing does require a larger volume of soil to really produce though. I think you would enjoy trying out a LOS type setup, its close to what you're doing but in the end less maintenance maybe, 15 gallons is a good size for indoor as it can be kept alive easier than smaller sized pots.

So when it comes to SSDD what have you noticed pheno wise to look out for? Can you recall any specific growing difficulties you encountered? It would be sweet to know what to look out for and what others have experienced and observed. We are all a bunch of stoners nerding out on the blessed plant and can help each other a bunch. With the way the legal system is going places like this will be the only place to truly learn and share without babylon and its profits taking over.
 
Diesel0889

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CopaGenetics said:
I can agree on a lot of you points but also would like to share that I grow in Promix with some worm dirt added in. I have always grown in dirt, never hydro. Back in the 80's and 90's I used Sunshine 2 and 5. Havent seen that around in years. I starting using Nectar for the gods nutes in the last few years and like th eresults. I have always used Maxicrop and Superthrive for micros. Never heard of Cal Mag or Silica until recently and it has never mattered for me. Maybe the polyhybrids of today need calmag and silica I dont know. Back in the day we had not a lot of choices like today. There was only one single source for grow supplies back then and it was called Worms Way in Worcester, MA. I remember getting kicked out of the store for asking about "the other crop" instead of mentioning tomatoes or "veggies". My point is that I never cater to a single plant in a grow, I always use the same shit, every time. Most of the plants I have grown (in the thousands over the years) have liked this setup. KISS. SSDD dont like my regimen. I do. I also like SSDD smoke so I deal with it. Cookie strains sometimes have a challenge with me and Querkle hates what I am doing. Will I change? nope. Do I care? nope. There are so many strains that live up to their "weed" roots that it really dont matter either way. I may try a LOS or a bed in the future but until then I am happy with my results. This is a Bodhi thread and I will keep it Bodhi related. I have a lot of experience with SSDD and SSDD x GG4 and love them both. Puff on. :bigjoint:
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Seriously the shit I've seen from you man you will kill it in a bed... build a soil.com and pick your poison.. been doing it for years and can say top quality products and VERY good service. Take it from me as for years I did same or close to what you are currently running.

On my third run in my bed and hope to use the same dirt for next 5 plus years. Cheaper and you will have no complaints about nothing... cant wait to see what you bring in the future. Much respect! We know you have the skill! Cant wait for the next "hightimes cover photos" you post. They should be looking here for cover photos. Imo the best growers are the ones hiding in the shadows. Well and legal states now lol... or the bodhi thread!

Happy growing!
 
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rollinfunk

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JHashmore said:
If you are growing organic in 1 gallon pots I suggest you top dress weekly, I use home made earth worm castings and use the dragonfly earth medicine stuff, i like the natural mystik for foliar once a week for IPM and the veg and fat flowers for foliars maybe every other week when they are applicable. I have witnessed with 1 gallon soil grows that when the roots max out in the pot, in a late veg or early/mid flower it seems the plants go through a stress event and don't look so good, drop lower leaves to promote growth at the top and plants stall for a bit but if you are actively top dressing often youll notice that the feeder roots at the soil level come alive and will eat your top dress quickly and you won't notice stress. Or if stress has occured the plants will rebound once you start actively top dressing. The plants will eat the feed pretty quickly so youll always have room top dress later.

Cannabis is a top feeder anyway so as long as those roots are used to searching and you are top dressing ( 3/4 cup castings with some amendments like alfalfa/rock dust/malted barley etc or something like Gaia green 444 or power bloom or the DEM stuff ($$$ so i use for foliar) you will be golden and will experience way less stress to the plant and it can actually grow for a loooong time in a 1 gallon doing this. If you forget a top dress and those roots aren't really surging with life a compost tea fills in but be sure to top dress to get those roots going and mulch over that, I use either leaves or fir bark mulch which is a nice indoor mulch, i dont green mulch 1 gallons.

I use leaves outside, indoors just be careful with leaves cause they can have insects on them, hasnt been a problem yet but spider mites live in my yard outside (blackberries,strawberries) but never seem to go after my weed plants outdoors, ive got companion plants and herbs and flowers around them though.

Switching to flower after week 2 seems to work well for 1 gallons. It allows room for thr roots to strwtch in the pot during early flower and fill it up then the roots switch to eating your top dress with minimal stress.

I used to think 1 gallon was no good but this summer I experimented and kept plants alive for months outside in 1 gallons top dressing to see how they did and they will continue growing for a long time top dressing. At the end of the day 1 gallon is not my preferred soil size but if you are just looking to see what a strain is like they work well, they are just high maintenance.
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Thanks for the info. I will feed them more. I also have DEM and dry amendments from DTE and make a tea once in a while. I use Natural mystic, miticide green (soybean oil), organic soap, cayenne pepper, aloe, K Si for foliar sprays. I have some mulch that I bought at a store. Hopefully I can turn them around.
 
JHashmore

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rollinfunk said:
Thanks for the info. I will feed them more. I also have DEM and dry amendments from DTE and make a tea once in a while. I use Natural mystic, miticide green (soybean oil), organic soap, cayenne pepper, aloe, K Si for foliar sprays. I have some mulch that I bought at a store. Hopefully I can turn them around.
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Epsom salt foliar and a fermented sea water foliar are also very helpful. And both cheap, the sea water is concentrated. Make sure when top dressing its getting some micros in some sort of compost form and not only dry amendments. Once a pot is filled with roots its easy to lose humus and for soil to look dry so dressing with the compost and dry amendment together has worked for me well. With the epsom/sea water foliar for direct mineral boost and fixes magnesium problems as well which tend to display when growing in small pots.

The other thing is everything responds slower in organic so don't worry if results are not immediate give it a bit of time it will come around. An up pot to even a 2-3 gallon will also fix your problems in a couple three weeks for sure if you are really overgrown in a one gallon.

I think even early flower it would be worth a transplant to be honest. If you didn't flower in a 1 gallon on purpose by inducing kind of early (2 week veg vs 4) and it was more of a savior mission I would transplant.
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This is of a PCK x Purple unicorn f3 outdoors. They all started out mutated fairly heavily and i almost turfed them but decided to run them anyway and they did very well and grew in the weirdest samurai sword like bud towers. They dropped fan leaves on their own but stopped there and the leaves on the spears stayed till the end feeding bud production. Smelled of sweet fruit cotton candy and floral spice while growing. Honestly amazing smelling, cured they are smokey must grapey. High the first time i smoked it was an absolute awakening of senses and a trippy ride but now its a very healing chill type high, its interesing to me the highs effect has changed. I doubt bodhi will put this out because all of the seedlings were mutated but i loved it once grown out. The new PU crosses will probably have some great stuff this got no PM or Mold whatsoever and im on the fog coast for October. Adjacent cultivar was covered in PM and I left it to test the others, that was a hard roll of the dice but i cant be dealing with PM prone varieties at all in my area outdoors.
 
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Diesel0889

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Well that sucks. It's in the trash but I may pull it to take a pic. Bout close to half gallon jar size. 1.5-2ft long sensi star. Prob 4 or 5 oz. So so dense had some mold close to stem in a few spots... not being in the mood I trashed all but 2-3oz in a few side branches.. shit...... boy what's good though... I'll post a pic....

The one lesson I have learned over these long years of growing is mentally you need to prepare for these shitty things to happen... wont grow again without topping for size control.... damn that sucks... still hopeing I hit 2 elbows.. other 3 at 5ft give or take starting to fill out. Couple lowers for a sneak peak.. MSS and so cal master kush 20191208_212858.jpg20191208_212745.jpg

The MSS has not what I'd call pure skunk but none the less a VERY nice smell and my buddys room tasted great... I just want this run over and move on... I miss my bodhi plants everyday!!! Prob 1.5 weeks I hope... maybe 2 for the so cal...
 
Diesel0889

Diesel0889

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My bed was also a tad off and I dont feel I honestly did them there full justice. I think after compost,minerals,amendments and a tea and covercrop my next run will be perfect. Bed dried out to much a couple times do to work and screwd up ph a bit but things seem back on track as of now but as you guys or gals know.... what's done is done. With organics at this point (day 60 something I think) the plant has made up its mind at this point so ride it out and feed the soil right... will all be down I hope by 70-75 days..

Happy growing!
 
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