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Phatlewtz

Phatlewtz

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It would be a very sick # if I added all of my watts from every kind of growing (food and smoke)...and the old ladies orchids and
D_Urbmon said:
Just a wild thought, would this be a potentially good practice if starting with a small amount of beans, say 1-2 pac.

Open pollinate F2 and F3 to open up the gene pool and close it back up by narrowing it down while selecting for specific traits in the later generations?
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I am a huge fan of open pollination buddy, that being said...with a smaller gene pool l
kmog33 said:
Thanks. Yeah I mean I've done some decent sized stuff, but nothing like some of these guys on here. I'd love to have space like papapayne or jj lol. But we all work wth what we've got and I see dudes in 3x3s and 4x4s spit out way more fire than some of the bigger grows on the regular around here. So size isn't everything here.


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According to classy ladies of today, size IS everything!

I work with a lot of space i guess, more then most less than a few, could explain the 3 hrs of sleep I get a day, just think how much more sleep I'd get if I could get my own pigs and cows! The current "When he will die from a massive heart attack" pool is over 4k! @ 100 a pop, thats 400 people that want to see me dead! You guys are welcome to get in!
 
Trich_holmes

Trich_holmes

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D_Urbmon said:
Just a wild thought, would this be a potentially good practice if starting with a small amount of beans, say 1-2 pac.

Open pollinate F2 and F3 to open up the gene pool and close it back up by narrowing it down while selecting for specific traits in the later generations?
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this is in fact what a lot of the "breeders" chucking pollen are doing. Alot of them talk about selection, when we all know they're running f2 and then a BX or two and say, we have a stable line ready for production. Not all do it, but Id bet most do. I seriously doubt too many folks are running multiple males in selected crosses and then running/testing progeny, then BXing multiple times...yeah right, it would be 3 years between drops. I think what a lot of us do in the way of chucking could stand up to some of these cash grab companies, with new crosses every month.
 
skinny510

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kmog33 said:
Thanks. Yeah I mean I've done some decent sized stuff, but nothing like some of these guys on here. I'd love to have space like papapayne or jj lol. But we all work wth what we've got and I see dudes in 3x3s and 4x4s spit out way more fire than some of the bigger grows on the regular around here. So size isn't everything here.


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Quality not quantity! :bigjoint:
 
JDGreen

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futant said:
I would disagree. F1 standard variation, F2 prolific variation, F3 completely dependant on whether DOMINANT traits were selected for in F1 and F2.


What he said, cept IMO with polys its a crap shoot and I would think like I was working an F2 pool to take to F4 instead of F3 (the extra scrutiny is required) and once again totally dependent on whether traits initially selected for were DOMINANT traits or not.
I believe F3 narrows in diversity because many dominant traits will skip generations if the recessive trait still has a strong presence in the pool. Therefore traits beginning to show dominance in the immediate F1, even if wandering away from that in F2, will pop back up in F3 narrowing the pool.
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akhiymjames said:
I missed your post bro sorry :lol: but looks like it was already covered by a few people so no need for me to say anything. I used to think f1 had more variation but it depends on what type of parents tour breeding with ie. true land races, p1 hybrids or mutli polyhybrids.
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Yes , i was pretty general wth.my post. Basically just saying as u progressively inbreed a strain u eventually start narrowing the gene pool. This isnt always seen with polyhybrids due to the large initial variation. But i would bet by f9 or sumthin u would have drastically narrowed the pool to produce a pretty consistent offspring(low pheno variation)

Am i wrong, ive never gone that far or seen that far. But if u mix bubba kush x bubba kush then bubba f2 x bubba kush.....in the first few generations u should see phenos only available wen traits were compounded. But wen inbred deep only the most dominant traits wpuld emerge correct?
 
Phatlewtz

Phatlewtz

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And since I respect you guys the most out of all the growers here, maybe you can answer a question....What Wiley E. Coyote level genius came up with using soft drinks in growing? *sprays coke* duuuuuuude look i got the sticky icky...i could see how it would add some sticky, and a whole lot of icky when it dries...just happened to see several threads of late, flushing with mt. dew, killing mites with coke...please clue me in :)
 
Trich_holmes

Trich_holmes

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Phatlewtz said:
And since I respect you guys the most out of all the growers here, maybe you can answer a question....What Wiley E. Coyote level genius came up with using soft drinks in growing? *sprays coke* duuuuuuude look i got the sticky icky...i could see how it would add some sticky, and a whole lot of icky when it dries...just happened to see several threads of late, flushing with mt. dew, killing mites with coke...please clue me in :)
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I have absolutely never heard of this...and I've heard some pretty far out growing methods! Are they carbo loading? Or was is Brawndo?... cause then carry on..:bigjoint:
 
Feisty1UR

Feisty1UR

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My buds have now dried for over a week and look as if they have lost roughly 75 percent of their weight since the cut. My only question is - & I know it doesn't belong in this thread. Do the buds shrink anymore during the curing time in the jars?

Side note: already have 6 (700g) jars full of bud and I'm only 1/3 of way through trimming all the buds... Have to buy more tomorrow.....:shock::shock:
I weighed a jar full and all buds inside each jar weigh roughly 23-24g. I think I'm pretty close to hitting a g per watt :eek: that's if they don't shrink anymore. The buds aren't super compact yet, but they look dense enough.

Attached a pic of my personal stuff, only popcorn nugs, already smell pretty good. Definetly chemmy lemony pine smell with a hint of coffee
 

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HeadyYonder

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Feisty1UR said:
My buds have now dried for over a week and look as if they have lost roughly 75 percent of their weight since the cut. My only question is - & I know it doesn't belong in this thread. Do the buds shrink anymore during the curing time in the jars?

Side note: already have 6 (700g) jars full of bud and I'm only 1/3 of way through trimming all the buds... Have to buy more tomorrow.....:shock::shock:
I weighed a jar full and all buds inside each jar weigh roughly 23-24g. I think I'm pretty close to hitting a g per watt :eek: that's if they don't shrink anymore. The buds aren't super compact yet, but they look dense enou
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Looks tasty to me. My nuggsnever see the inside of a jar for more than two months lol so I'm not even gonna try an answer that one. I do have a question though, what strain is she? Looks real purdy

For what it's worth I haven't noticed any of mine shrink up past the drying stage
 
Feisty1UR

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HeadyYonder said:
Looks tasty to me. My nuggsnever see the inside of a jar for more than two months lol so I'm not even gonna try an answer that one. I do have a question though, what strain is she? Looks real purdy

For what it's worth I haven't noticed any of mine shrink up past the drying stage
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AK Royal by royalqueenseeds. Is it necessary to dry for atleast 2 months or is that all just down to Personal preference? Yeah she's a winner, definetly a great strain to run! My trim job wasn't too great but a bit of leaf doesn't bother me too much :weed:

That's crazy if they don't shrink anymore I believe I'll have around 14-15oz. Possibly a full lb, but judging by the amount and the amount left id say I'm a bit off. But still as a new grower and it being my first ever run, many people can't say the same,
 
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HeadyYonder

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Feisty1UR said:
AK Royal by royalqueenseeds. Is it necessary to dry for atleast 2 months or is that all just down to Personal preference? Yeah she's a winner, definetly a great strain to run! My trim job wasn't too great but a bit of leaf doesn't bother me too much :weed:

That's crazy if they don't shrink anymore I believe I'll have around 14-15oz. Possibly a full lb, but judging by the amount and the amount left id say I'm a bit off. But still as a new grower and it being my first ever run, many people can't say the same,
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Drying should only last 3-12 days depending on temp and humidity conditions duder
 
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Feisty1UR said:
AK Royal by royalqueenseeds. Is it necessary to dry for atleast 2 months or is that all just down to Personal preference? Yeah she's a winner, definetly a great strain to run! My trim job wasn't too great but a bit of leaf doesn't bother me too much :weed:

That's crazy if they don't shrink anymore I believe I'll have around 14-15oz. Possibly a full lb, but judging by the amount and the amount left id say I'm a bit off. But still as a new grower and it being my first ever run, many people can't say the same,
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you dry until you get to around 60% rh. Then you jar and start the curing process. This is where your bud equalizes, and stabilizes. The outside might be crispy dry, while the inside might be soaking wet. Once in the jar, you check your hygrometer after a few hours. If you go above 60 after a couple hours, you probably jarred too soon, and it needs to come back out. Boveda packs help simplify things, and allow a little more room for error. You can get a caliber IV or V hygrometer for $25-30......money well spent, i have one in every jar.
 
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