bodhi seeds

kmog33

kmog33

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Amos Otis said:
I'm sure I told you, but just a reminder : MedMan advised to scuff the heriberry. And isn't it time for an update on the ss x pc?
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Lol, will get an update on everything when I'm back in the us. Out in Switzerland right now but I'll be back in about a week. The ss X PC female I have is looking good and to be a long flowering girl. A bit slower into flower than my 9 week kkgd cut I'm running next to it. Looking forward to the finish. :)


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kmog33

kmog33

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torontoke said:
While overall I agree with your theory there is something to be said about man creating certain crosses that nature also wouldn't cross or create and once mans hand has been involved things change.
Certain beans over the years have had notoriously bad germ rates and if not for people scuffing and forcing the issue strains would have died off.
I'm not 100% sure but I think ogkb was like this years ago and I'm sure there's been many others.
But those were known issues that the majority have found not 1/1000 people.
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I'm pretty sure the original ogkb was from bagseed, and I doubt that anyone scuffs beans they don't think/know they have to. I could be wrong, but as far as it goes, man interfering with crosses to make better weed should make better weed in all aspects. Not just potency. Take Bodhi for instance, potent as shit and 100% germ rates without scuffing a single time.

The bigger issue IMO is breeders using weak males in their crosses. Look at the pics redeye posted of his males. They looked shit. And the progeny had crazy herm rates that cause him to discontinue the line. IMO if he had been using better males to hit his females with, the beans probably would've been a bit more stable. Taking two unstable/weak plants and crossing them is almost irresponsible as a breeder. Not saying that it would've vastly effected the herm rates, but ime good males make good beans even with potent viney growing females. It's all about what the breeders choose to release. But being able to say you crossed a mendobreath male to mendobreath female even if the male is terrible will probably sell more beans than a big healthy white widow male X mendobreath cross just because of the claimed lineage. Even though there is a good chance that the progeny of the ww X mb will have consistently better nug in vigor/growth/resistance as well as in potency.

We're half the problem. As growers we need to get over the name bs and get more into growing dank regardless of who's version of what cut was used. It's pretty silly.


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Lucky88

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I concer with crab pot i got a pack or two saved I know will pop, it's a huge pain in the ass for me to get bodhi so I pretty much just save em same with karma
 
FlakeyFoont

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kmog33 said:
Yeah I don't mess with the whole scuffing/scratching bs. IMO if your beans won't pop on their own, they aren't good beans. Plus, there are too many breeders out there to be hassling myself like that with beans that are literally/naturally useless. It's a plant and it should be able to grow without grower involvement. You don't see bears or birds rubbing seeds up against trees to help seeds pop. The ones that don't pop, don't make it and are eliminated from the gene pool. Natural selection at its best, haha.


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I've got to beg to differ, lol! I was never a scuffer, either, but when I had to move indoors, and buy seeds, I changed my mind! I remember the day clearly... right after I tried to pop a pack of OG Raskal's WiFi... one came up... it was when I found out that one was a male, lol!

It's too easy to scuff. Roll a piece of 120g sandpaper to fit in a pill bottle (you can keep it there forever!), throw the seeds in, and give them 47 shakes, or whatever your lucky number is!
 
GreenSanta

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kmog33 said:
I don't know anything about that, but I do have at least 2 strains I can't think of that take at least 4 days to pop, and if you pop 10+, there's a good chance that the laggers will be popping right around day 7. I've never paid any attention to the male:female ratios that came out of particular beans. That's a little too intensive on the observing/documentation for me, lol.


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I was thinking just that, I can hardly keep the proper tags on my pots, i have so so many question marks in my breeding efforts lol.

Amos Otis said:
I'm sure I told you, but just a reminder : MedMan advised to scuff the heriberry. And isn't it time for an update on the ss x pc?
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I have only ever had one full pack of seeds that didn't crack and they were herijuana from meduser. It was the first time I heard that I should have used sand paper on the beans and I was like wtf!!?
 
Amos Otis

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GreenSanta said:
I have only ever had one full pack of seeds that didn't crack and they were herijuana from meduser. It was the first time I heard that I should have used sand paper on the beans and I was like wtf!!?
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Right....meduser. He was good to send another pack, which was recently passed along. The other crosses from him / Mota, ronny james dio and heri x williams wonder popped fine. Like you, almost every other beans popped when soaked /toweled.
 
Thefarmer12

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kindnug said:
I've grown over 100 of bodhi's seeds + there were very few that didn't germinate + produce a plant(less than 5)
Still have 17 unopened packs, so I'll see how things go with those later...

Orig. SSDD is a quite few years old now, so it's possible they lost the will to live?
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I bought ssdd from MWS recently and they were so healthy they not only germed in <24 hrs but grew through like 4 layers of paper towel.
 
apbx720

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Just had to chime in abt the organic vs hydro junk... keep scrolling if yr over it...

I grew hydro dwc, rdwc, recirc drip, ebb n flow for over 5 years very successfully. Completely dialed in. Id bring in 9 week plants that looked as healthy as day 1 of flower, not a blemish. Or plants that were flushed for 2 full weeks. The bud was killer. Everyone including myself loved it and 4 people (hardcore everyday smokers) told me it was the best they ever smoked.

I also grew using "organic" bottled nutrients in a coco base with a couple synthetic additives. Hydro blew this method away so i didnt do it for long.

Fast forward to present time. Been growing fully organic (or as close as i can, being an indoor environment) for abt a year. Not organic bottles, im talkin raw organic non gmo pure dry amendments like crab kelp and neem meals, guanos etc. THE YEILD IS NOT THE SAME AS DRO BUT THE TASTE IS 100 TIMES BETTER. The difference in yeild is not even enough to make me go back to hydro.

To each their own but dnt knock shit before u try it. And im not talking abt u "i run half synthetic and half organic" guys. U dont count, that does not qualify as organic and it tastes nothing like organic.

Im not knocking the hydro guys here ok, to each their own. If u got a system that works, work that shit. But when someone says hydro is better quality or flavor, thats when i gotta speak up because my experience has been very different.

@greasemonkeymann @st0wandgrow @Crab Pot i believe have all mentioned the environmental benefits of organic, so if yr not gonna try it at least dont knock it. Why not encourage new growers to go organic first? If its better for the environment then that means its better for ALL!

@JDGreen i believe u tried my organic flowers no? Could u please state to the jury what kinda method u were growing at the time u tried them, and what method u switched to afterwards? The method you are currently using? ;)

Here... Bodhis Black Raspberry... organic soil grown...20160623_212836.jpgIMG_20160605_195319.jpg 20160623_212836.jpg IMG_20160605_195319.jpg
 
st0wandgrow

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apbx720 said:
Just had to chime in abt the organic vs hydro junk... keep scrolling if yr over it...

I grew hydro dwc, rdwc, recirc drip, ebb n flow for over 5 years very successfully. Completely dialed in. Id bring in 9 week plants that looked as healthy as day 1 of flower, not a blemish. Or plants that were flushed for 2 full weeks. The bud was killer. Everyone including myself loved it and 4 people (hardcore everyday smokers) told me it was the best they ever smoked.

I also grew using "organic" bottled nutrients in a coco base with a couple synthetic additives. Hydro blew this method away so i didnt do it for long.

Fast forward to present time. Been growing fully organic (or as close as i can, being an indoor environment) for abt a year. Not organic bottles, im talkin raw organic non gmo pure dry amendments like crab kelp and neem meals, guanos etc. THE YEILD IS NOT THE SAME AS DRO BUT THE TASTE IS 100 TIMES BETTER. The difference in yeild is not even enough to make me go back to hydro.

To each their own but dnt knock shit before u try it. And im not talking abt u "i run half synthetic and half organic" guys. U dont count, that does not qualify as organic and it tastes nothing like organic.

Im not knocking the hydro guys here ok, to each their own. If u got a system that works, work that shit. But when someone says hydro is better quality or flavor, thats when i gotta speak up because my experience has been very different.

@greasemonkeymann @st0wandgrow @Crab Pot i believe have all mentioned the environmental benefits of organic, so if yr not gonna try it at least dont knock it. Why not encourage new growers to go organic first? If its better for the environment then that means its better for ALL!

@JDGreen i believe u tried my organic flowers no? Could u please state to the jury what kinda method u were growing at the time u tried them, and what method u switched to afterwards? The method you are currently using? ;)

Here... Bodhis Black Raspberry... organic soil grown...View attachment 3741220View attachment 3741922 View attachment 3741220 View attachment 3741922
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Great post, and a beautiful plant!

I agree with all of the above, but as you said, each to their own.

Btw, that was your 999'th post. #1000 better be a good'un! :-)
 
JDGreen

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Yes,@apbx720 i have tried your organic flowers. And they taste great on par witb some of the better tasting smoke i could manage to get. I think everyone knows the hydro yields better. But i myself use only one bottle now. The mammoth p . This is my first run.with it. But its basically all bacteria so its not an organic nutrient, just bacteria liquid state. So No bottled nutrients. Just strong slow release sol blend with 2-4 teas. Depending on if guano/bateria/fungal tea. Im trying to get 2 fungal teas a bacteria and a guano. I also topdress with casting and microbes.
This system and improving on timing, soil composition and most importantly FRESH everything, is by far producing the best tasting bud without sacrificing any potency. The yield can be regain, but it requires rigorous training and probably some heavy use of foliar teas to improve structure for budding.

So i would personally recommend the all fresh organic food systems, knf style organic is a great path to explore, especially for those not strictly dependant on high yields of hydro. I prefer it by far and everyone loves the smoke mpre and cant believe the improvement s.
 
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