Blue Dream Monsters in the Making???

mr.bernit

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yeah, I made a SST out of the water too, minus the pureed seeds, but I have a really awesome garden store near me, that place rules, sells everything from karanja meal (albeit ginormous bags) to silica, to comfrey, to horsetail plants.
But yea, they sell this seed mix that is called "soil-starter" all nitrogen fixing legumes of I think four different types.
Best plant store I have ever seen though. Owned by some organic hippy people...
Sounds like a great store! I need to check if my local garden store carry any.
 

greasemonkeymann

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northern cal with a plant that big right now I would do no smaller than a 400 gal smart pot. I start seeds march 15 for the full sun garden and I root bound 300 gal smarts by the middle of july ( to the point they need food all the time or they will lose color) Take my advise bigger the better and homeys last little mix is good… I disagree with the vermi soil thing I personally prefer roots organic but to each their own. Either way what is saying seems to be accurate. Get bigger pots norcal sun is as legit as it gets.
I hear ya, I used roots for yrs and then one batch killed one of my (surprise!) outside bluedreams, it wilted and shrivled within a day after transplanting, I got like, I think 8 or 9 bags and the other plants that got the other bags were all good, the one that didn't died almost instantly, it looked like it hadn't been watered in a week, and that happened within 2 hrs of trans.
Since then I used vermifire. But that was before when I didn't really get the whole thing and since I have gone to no-till, I have a shitty back, and it's much easier, and once you get it all down, you get better results too.
I always like vermifire's volcanic rock, but I didn't like that they used blood meal, but whatever.
I had damn good results with roots though, for probably 10-15 harvests or so.
You did say vermisoil though, that's the weaker version of vermifire, so if you have only used that one, you're kinda judging it a bit the wrong way.. sorta like driving the v6 mustang and thinking mustangs are slow.. that one is...
 

mr.bernit

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I hear ya, I used roots for yrs and then one batch killed one of my (surprise!) outside bluedreams, it wilted and shrivled within a day after transplanting, I got like, I think 8 or 9 bags and the other plants that got the other bags were all good, the one that didn't died almost instantly, it looked like it hadn't been watered in a week, and that happened within 2 hrs of trans.
Since then I used vermifire. But that was before when I didn't really get the whole thing and since I have gone to no-till, I have a shitty back, and it's much easier, and once you get it all down, you get better results too.
I always like vermifire's volcanic rock, but I didn't like that they used blood meal, but whatever.
I had damn good results with roots though, for probably 10-15 harvests or so.
You did say vermisoil though, that's the weaker version of vermifire, so if you have only used that one, you're kinda judging it a bit the wrong way.. sorta like driving the v6 mustang and thinking mustangs are slow.. that one is...
Did you flower with just the vermifire or did you add or fed it anything else throughout flowering??
 

greasemonkeymann

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Did you flower with just the vermifire or did you add or fed it anything else throughout flowering??
I have done both, and it depends, outside under the sun, they'll need a lil extra to keep em going, the bluedream is a hungry plant, and it grows pretty fast the first month after triggering, but if you give them room you won't need to feed them anything inside, provided you give them a bunch of soil to grow into. Keep in mind they almost triple when flowered, so unless you have tall ceilings.... gotta train those girls.
In my experience it's best to transplant about 20 days prior to triggering flower, that 20 days, coupled with the first 30 days of flowering is when the plant is going to need the most "food", after that the roots don't grow much more, and the plant "ripens" more than grows.
The BD likes it's nitrogen though, especially outside.
inside I flower at two feet, outside I let em try to talk to god.
 

Six50

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Vermifire is good for immediate transplanting I got good results with it also adding fox farms tiger bloom kept them healthy, green and lush and the harvest came out pretty frosty and I was even asked if it was indoor
 

Bigapple420

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I hear ya, I used roots for yrs and then one batch killed one of my (surprise!) outside bluedreams, it wilted and shrivled within a day after transplanting, I got like, I think 8 or 9 bags and the other plants that got the other bags were all good, the one that didn't died almost instantly, it looked like it hadn't been watered in a week, and that happened within 2 hrs of trans.
Since then I used vermifire. But that was before when I didn't really get the whole thing and since I have gone to no-till, I have a shitty back, and it's much easier, and once you get it all down, you get better results too.
I always like vermifire's volcanic rock, but I didn't like that they used blood meal, but whatever.
I had damn good results with roots though, for probably 10-15 harvests or so.
You did say vermisoil though, that's the weaker version of vermifire, so if you have only used that one, you're kinda judging it a bit the wrong way.. sorta like driving the v6 mustang and thinking mustangs are slow.. that one is...
I've used both plenty and know the kids that started it personally
 

mr.bernit

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Thanks for the replies , I wanted to transplant them in at least 15 gallon and then flower, but had to start flowering right away. So I had to flower them in the 7 gallon pots :(. Im in week 4 and will post pics soon.
I also got some girls for the outdoor season.
I got a plant that I been vegging for 4 months , and a few clones that have been vegging for like a month and a half. All day outside, and at night under fluoros. I want to start getting them ready for outdoors now by reducing the lighting period. Any tips on how to do it without triggering them to flower????
 
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