Blackberry - day 28 veg

Hi Everyone! I'm new to this site, however been growing for years, an old Heaven's Stairway refugee!

Would like to share my latest indoor project. My goal was to grow outdoor size plants with an indoor setting. Having grown years ago with a system called the Krusty Bucket, I utilized his design to come up with what I call my "circle of light" As you can see from the pic, there are 6 overhead lamps hung from a hexegon rack surrounding 2 vertical lamps in each "pod". A pod consists of 6 modified GH mega farms that are top fed & drained to waste.

These pics are from yesterday, day 28 of veg. Will grow to about 4' then will flip. Running lamps at 75% currently, will increase to 100% in about a week. If there's interest, will continue to post pics as the grow progresses.
 

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Thanks stumpjumper, although don't know if I'll grow this strain again. It's very light sensitive, having to veg under 24/7, anything else, it wants to flower! Having seen the final product, however thought to give it a try.
 

mrduke

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lookin sweet olddog. I had a mother of blackberry and it was all i could do to keep it from flowering too, it ended up show big preflowers though, looked like it was always at about 10 days of 12/12.

On a totally different subject are you from the "farm" this looks like the style grow alot of guys do there?
 

mijola3

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wow.
tight.
really those are gonna be fuckin bushes!!!!! how many watts are those lamps ?? thats some serious lumens man.

im totally sub'd if youre gonna keep posting OD!
 
You could say I'm from the "farm", lol! I have a small place in N. Cal have been growing outdoors for many years, but I started out as a hydro grower many more years ago and always wanted to get back to it in a big way.
I've always found it to be a hassle to tie up cola's indoors, so I incorporated a similar method of support that I used with outdoor grows. Attached a pic of an outdoor pot to show what I mean.
 

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Thanks mijola3! All the lamps are 1000w, digital ballast, currently running at 75%. As I don't have my "veg" room completed yet, the overhead lamps are MH, the vertical are HPS. Once I flip, I'll change out the overheads to HPS also. Working on the veg room now, will have 6, 600w lamps over 12 pots for about 45-60 days, then they'll be rolled into this flower room. I'm an old "student/follower" of a grower we used to call Krusty (do a google search), his mantra was extreme watts/sq ft, side lighting, and ultra clean, totally controlled environment. With this system, I can get outdoor results indoors, average pot yield similar to outdoor, but much better overall results.

The area I'm in only allows a maximum of 25 plants/property so my goal was to be able to veg 12 pots at the same time as I'm flowering 12 others. I keep 1 mom that I take cuts as I need them, so I never have more then 25 plants here at any one time.
 

dapio

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I like it the ducting looks really complex is it all going to the top floor or an attic how big is your res?
 
Don't find any need. I have a large 12" filtered fan that pushes fresh air into the room 24/7. There's at least 10lbs of positive air pressure, when you open the door, have to be careful it doesn't smack you in the face!
I've been schooled to believe that you only need co2 when air temps exceed 80+ degrees. My rooms are always between 70-72 degrees, year round.
 
Ducting really isn't that complex, all the fans, ballasts, controls, on second floor. All ducts have intake/exaust fans, including the vertical (filtered fan under floor). A little overkill, but when I measure temps of hood glass, able to maintain under 85 degrees. Here's a pic of my water room, seperate room on same floor. 200gal nute tank feeding the flower room. The 100gal is currently the RO tank, I pump water from it to the 200 1x/day. Eventually the 100 will be used to feed the veg room (under construction), and I'll have a 200gal RO tank on the second floor to top of both tanks in this room.
 

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This is the second run, although made a couple modifications to the pots. Here's a pic from the "test run", (did only 4 pots) on day 39 of flowering. The strain is NYCD, hard to get a good shot because of the intense lighting.
Basically, I drilled 2 - 3/4"drain holes on either side of the pots, this allows me to "rotate" the pots every few days when in flowering to take advantage of the vertical lighting. I just plug one with a stopper when the other is turned to the floor basin/drain. The 1/2 hole that the Mega Farms comes with I modified to be the high air pressure intake for a large 8" round airstone in the bottom of the pot.

I'll take a picture of the insides of one of the pots I modified and post later. I find that they work exceptionally well now. These pots were designed to be "self contained", but to me, I saw much more potential turning them into a top fed, drain to waste system.
 

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Here ya go thirtyshort;

Here's a few pics of the modified GH Mega Farm, and a pic of the original Krusty/Freedom Bucket that I copied the design from.

On the inside you can see I drill many more holes includeing 4" up the sides. Increase of drain plug with filter, and I epoxied the air stone tubing through the original drain grommet. The 2 rubber stoppers in bottom are to plug holes from GH's setup that I don't use. I also cut & cap 4 - 1/2" pvc tubes and set on angles as I'm filling with hydroton stone. This allows me put thin bamboo rods into them to create the system for tying the plants/colas.

This is basically the Krusty Bucket system using 20gal pots. Let me know if you have any questions.
 

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