Hi all new to the forum and also new to making bho, the bho turned out great nice lovely golden colour. Problem is not the bho the problem is when I purchased a black leaf glass oil pipe with titanium nail when I go to do a dab the oil just melts on the hot nail and sits at the top of the nail with no smoke. Has anyone had similar experience? I have never had a dab out of this device because of this is there something I should be doing to the nail before using? Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm sitting about like an impatient child waiting on my first dab back home in Scotland and also of my own creation. Cheersb
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WarMachine
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Do you have pics of your setup? It'd help us check out the design. Also, this might sound stupid and I don't wish to offend you. Is this a domeless setup or a setup with a dome? You might be hitting a setup with a dome and they didn't give you a dome. But no smoke coming out does sound weird...
rastakolnikov
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If it's melting but not vaporizing then i would think you just need to get the nail hotter.
Made it red hot and smoke did come off but it wasn't as thick as the smoke thay came off from my first dab a while ago. I can feel the high for sure but it was more potent in a bowl with some bluberry. Could the device be a factor? The last time I had a dab it was from a bong with an attachment not a pipe.
WarMachine
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On the Skunk Pharm site, it states a little bit about seasoning a nail.
I really don't understand how it melts with no smoke appearing..
SnapsProvolone
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Is it just pooling in bottom? I like to smear my dabs on the inside wall, nothing should make it to the bottom.
Twitch
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yep just keep dabbing... or i have seen some people take a whole mess of reclaim and get their nail red hot and then dunk it a couple of times... i have personally never done this but in theory it sounds like it would work
It kinda pools in the middle of the nail, smoke does come off and if I look closely a thin layer of smoke comes down through the pipe, but I can't taste anything and like I say the smoke doesn't have that thickness if that makes sense haha I wasn't wanting to waste the oil by using it with a nail which I thought may be the issue, so if i season the nail will it allow the dab to smoke up a bit better? Thanks for the help
SnapsProvolone
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If your oil is too runny it will fall off dabber and just sit on the same spot of the nail.
The term dab refers to a tapping motion where your oil stays on the dabber and is repeatedly touched briefly on the hot nail. This keeps your oil cool and allows for surface of nail to stay hot. Just plopping your oil on the nail doesn't work, you need to tap it or if it melts off the dabber you can smear it around the inside of your nail.
The term dab refers to a tapping motion where your oil stays on the dabber and is repeatedly touched briefly on the hot nail. This keeps your oil cool and allows for surface of nail to stay hot. Just plopping your oil on the nail doesn't work, you need to tap it or if it melts off the dabber you can smear it around the inside of your nail.
Texas(THC)
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^^ just plopping oil on the nail works for me, I call it dropping bhombs! ^^
your nail isn't fully seasoned yet my most recent nail seemed to do this too
just keep heating and putting dab/reclaim on the nail until all the shininess is gone on the surface of the head
its almost like you need to burn off a coating first
your nail isn't fully seasoned yet my most recent nail seemed to do this too
just keep heating and putting dab/reclaim on the nail until all the shininess is gone on the surface of the head
its almost like you need to burn off a coating first
Fadedawg
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Titanium is highly reactive when heated, so it must first be made inert so that it doesn't add to the taste of the oil. Seasoning involves building an alpha case on the surface, by heating it brilliant orange and letting it cool repeatedly. The nitrogen and oxygen in the air will form Titanium nitrites and dioxides on the surface, which are highly inert. If you also dab oil on the surface while hot, it will also form some carbides.
You can watch the nitrites and oxides form, because they are brilliantly colored. Nitrites are gold, and oxygen ranges from gold, through red and blue, to dull gray. When the surface is uniformly dull gray, it is seasoned.
Even though the oil may not be bursting into vapor clouds, if you pull a slight vacuum on the pipe by drawing on it, it will usually be enough to cause it to burst into vapor. Once the nail is seasoned and has a more irregular surface, with more points of nucleation, it will produce more vapor on contact.
Replies like this are what makes fd my hero... perfectly explained!
AlGore
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"When the surface is uniformly dull gray, it is seasoned."
The most makes total sense till I get to this bit. That is what all my Ti dabbers look like brand new, uniform dull gray. I only use 1 Ti nail anymore and that is the one for my SSV Oil Kit e-nail thing. I never get it red hot, don't think the ssv ceramic heater gets high enough to do it anyway. The thing came grey, and is "stained" from dabbing on it, the bottom where it attaches to the ceramic is blue. Are you saying I need to take a torch to it over and over otherwise I'm getting bad stuff off when I dab on it?