Biden's Border Crisis

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OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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DeadHeadX said:
An aside, but imo, CNN is no better or worse than the rest of them - partisan and divisive. I literally canceled cable because I could not stand to see a minute of cable news any longer. CNN was the prime driver of my decision. Awful stuff. Between the advertisements, anyway.
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Both CNN and MSNBC are just constant repeats of the same shit with different talking heads so I pay little attention to either. I do leave MSNBC running in the background sometimes as I play around on the 'web but pay little attention to it. So much of both is just speculation and not news and the constant commercial breaks are very annoying.

For actual news I watch PBS Newshour every day at 4pm then the CTV news Edmonton at 6 but will have it recorded to skip thru the commercials and any sports crap as I follow none of that. Good and fairly accurate weather report half way thru I'll pay attention to. I'll watch BBC World News America at 3:30 if I have the TV on at the time but PBS will cover all the same things in more detail so it's not often I catch it.

I get more stuff I'm interested in just following various threads here in the politics section. The tRump saga has much entertainment value and watching him go down in flames is the best yet! :) The whole republican party gong show is a laugh too when it's not a horror show. WTF is the matter with them and their minions. Heaven forbid they get back in.

Same up here tho. I've never voted for the Liberals but I'll take more Trudeau over little PP and the conservatives any day of the week. In Alberta here there are never any Liberal candidates to vote for so I just vote NDP provincially and federally. NDP might have another shot here in 3 more years but very unlikely to get anywhere federally. As much as it sucks federal NDP needs a new leader. People just don't want to vote for a guy in a turban. I do even tho as a leader I don't think he has what it takes regardless of his race or religion. As it is now the Libs and NDP are in a coalition and getting some good stuff done like cheaper child care and paid dental added to our medical. The extra immigration is not helping to keep housing affordable but we need it to fill thousands of jobs not being filled by Canadians. Same thing in the states with crops rotting in the fields for lack of foreign workers to pick them.

Here in Canada our prime minister can stay in power as long as his party and the voters support him/her/it. We got stuck with Harper and the cons for 10 years tho and I still hate that prick.

:peace:
 
printer

printer

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Billy the Mountain said:
Pretty much sums up the current faux outrage:
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'I will not help the Democrats': GOP rep says he’ll torch border deal to deny Biden a win
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana) speaking at a press conference at the Southern border of the United States. (Image: Screengrab via X /

A major criticism that Never Trump conservatives have of MAGA Republicans is that they are more interested in "owning the Democrats" than making strong policy decisions. And they typically cite President Ronald Reagan's relationships with House Speaker Tip O'Neill during the 1980s or Joe Biden's alliances with Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) and Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kansas) as examples of Republicans and Democrats — disagreements and all — being able to find common ground and get things done.

In 2024, Republicans and Democrats have a mutual interest in security on the U.S./Mexico border. But in an article published on January 4, Rolling Stone's Nikki McCann Ramirez describes Rep. Troy Nehls (R-Texas) as a Republican who has "made clear" that his motives are "purely political" when it comes to a possible Biden/GOP deal on border policy.

Nehls, Ramirez observes, "said the quiet part out loud" when he told CNN, "Let me tell you, I'm not willing to do too damn much right now to help a Democrat and to help Joe Biden's approval rating. I will not help the Democrats try to improve this man's dismal approval ratings. I'm not going to do it. Why would I? (Senate Majority Leader) Chuck Schumer has had HR 2 on his desk since July, and he did nothing with it."
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Nehls' comments, according to Ramirez, "lay bare House Republicans' ultimate guiding light in their governance strategy: helping Trump defeat President Joe Biden."

"For weeks now," Ramirez reports, "a bipartisan group of senators has been working to craft a deal that would tie increased border security measures to emergency military aid for Israel and Ukraine. On Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters that lawmakers in the upper chamber are 'closer than we have been' to finalizing an agreement…. While Republicans like Nehls have made clear they won't give an inch on immigration if it means handing even the smallest of victories to President Biden, they're prepared to make the border a center-stage 2024 issue in other ways."

Ramirez adds, "On Wednesday, the House Homeland Security Committee announced its intent to move forward with impeachment proceedings against Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas — a showdown long sought by far-right representatives like Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA)."
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'I will not help the Democrats': GOP rep says he’ll torch border deal to deny Biden a win

A major criticism that Never Trump conservatives have of MAGA Republicans is that they are more interested in "owning the Democrats" than making strong policy decisions. And they typically cite President Ronald Reagan's relationships with House Speaker Tip O'Neill during the 1980s or Joe Biden's...
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GenericEnigma

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printer said:
'I will not help the Democrats': GOP rep says he’ll torch border deal to deny Biden a win
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana) speaking at a press conference at the Southern border of the United States. (Image: Screengrab via X /

A major criticism that Never Trump conservatives have of MAGA Republicans is that they are more interested in "owning the Democrats" than making strong policy decisions. And they typically cite President Ronald Reagan's relationships with House Speaker Tip O'Neill during the 1980s or Joe Biden's alliances with Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) and Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kansas) as examples of Republicans and Democrats — disagreements and all — being able to find common ground and get things done.

In 2024, Republicans and Democrats have a mutual interest in security on the U.S./Mexico border. But in an article published on January 4, Rolling Stone's Nikki McCann Ramirez describes Rep. Troy Nehls (R-Texas) as a Republican who has "made clear" that his motives are "purely political" when it comes to a possible Biden/GOP deal on border policy.

Nehls, Ramirez observes, "said the quiet part out loud" when he told CNN, "Let me tell you, I'm not willing to do too damn much right now to help a Democrat and to help Joe Biden's approval rating. I will not help the Democrats try to improve this man's dismal approval ratings. I'm not going to do it. Why would I? (Senate Majority Leader) Chuck Schumer has had HR 2 on his desk since July, and he did nothing with it."
POLL:Should Trump be allowed to hold office again?

Nehls' comments, according to Ramirez, "lay bare House Republicans' ultimate guiding light in their governance strategy: helping Trump defeat President Joe Biden."

"For weeks now," Ramirez reports, "a bipartisan group of senators has been working to craft a deal that would tie increased border security measures to emergency military aid for Israel and Ukraine. On Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters that lawmakers in the upper chamber are 'closer than we have been' to finalizing an agreement…. While Republicans like Nehls have made clear they won't give an inch on immigration if it means handing even the smallest of victories to President Biden, they're prepared to make the border a center-stage 2024 issue in other ways."

Ramirez adds, "On Wednesday, the House Homeland Security Committee announced its intent to move forward with impeachment proceedings against Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas — a showdown long sought by far-right representatives like Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA)."
www.alternet.org

'I will not help the Democrats': GOP rep says he’ll torch border deal to deny Biden a win

A major criticism that Never Trump conservatives have of MAGA Republicans is that they are more interested in "owning the Democrats" than making strong policy decisions. And they typically cite President Ronald Reagan's relationships with House Speaker Tip O'Neill during the 1980s or Joe Biden's...
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MAGA governs how anti-abortionists nurture life: selectively, hypocritically, and signaling false virtue - with a healthy dose of self-aggrandisement.
 
injinji

injinji

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DeadHeadX said:
An aside, but imo, CNN is no better or worse than the rest of them - partisan and divisive. I literally canceled cable because I could not stand to see a minute of cable news any longer. CNN was the prime driver of my decision. Awful stuff. Between the advertisements, anyway.
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You don't have to watch every channel.

But for anyone wanting good news and not having pay TV, the Newshour on PBS is free on YT. The viewers pay for it, so no clickbait.

 
DeadHeadX

DeadHeadX

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injinji said:
You don't have to watch every channel.

But for anyone wanting good news and not having pay TV, the Newshour on PBS is free on YT. The viewers pay for it, so no clickbait.

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Yup. Can stream for free through the app on Roku also. Not cable channel, never was. But good news.
 
Fogdog

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BudmanTX said:
Phucking Obstructionist........oh i talked with my Furer and we are not gonna do anything with the border problem we caused in the first place.......

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1747780148886491376
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I've only listened to the first half but it's a well informed (in other words, dismissive of what GOP attention whores say) discussion of the political shift in public sentiment about who's really to blame over the border crisis. Going into the discussion in @DinGrogu 's thread, it was all about how Biden is screwing it up. But now, it appears that Republicans are handing the issue to Democrats. If not as Democrats have something to show how well they are doing. It's that Republicans are handing the issue to Democrats through their cynical honesty over what their real intentions are.


We have many Republican Congressmen going on record saying what they probably ought not have said, not just them but the old loose cannon himself, Donald Trump as well. They are saying they want chaos and crisis. They are saying they want the Senate border bill tanked even though it contains measures that they want, such as changes to the refugee laws and deportation laws that are very much opposed by Biden's base and what Republicans have been clamoring for. Yet Trump is using his influence in the House to stop it. Because, as they say they don't want to give Biden a win. Trump even predicts a terrorist attack this year and yet he would rather that happen than give Joe the means to do something about it.

So, Democrats are gathering the receipts. The are putting together campaign ads that use their Republican counterparts own words to show their constituents who is really to blame here.
 
BudmanTX

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Fogdog said:
Speaker Johnson sees his misstep on the matter too.


"Joe Biden, please usurp our authority so that I don't get the blame I deserve"

lol, what a marooon.
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i'm surprised you listened to the whole thing, i caught excerpts of the MAGA Johnson BS....almost spit out my coffee...
 
injinji

injinji

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BudmanTX said:
hmm love to see what the Senate came up with.....

www.politico.com

Schumer promises vote on the border security-Ukraine aid deal next week

The Senate majority leader said the text of the agreement will be made public as soon as Friday or as late as Sunday.
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I'm sure it makes the "credible fear" interview a little harder to pass. I've heard that after 4 or 5K a day, they can close the border. Plus more border guards, judges and drug sniffing robots.

But I've also heard the work permits come sooner for those who get paroled. That would be a big deal.

www.pbs.org

Senators reach a deal on border policy bill. Now it faces an uphill fight to passage

Sen. Chris Murphy, the lead Democratic negotiator, posted on social media Friday that a deal had been reached and text of the bill would be released over the weekend.
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