Bi-Partisan Senate report calls for sweeping effort to stop Russian trolls on social media platforms.

Roger A. Shrubber

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the Biden administration should just have a website that posts what all these kind of websites do, and explains it in clear, simple language that magats can understand...and keep hammering the words socialist and communist while they're doing it...make it clear that the sites are trying to influence magats, trying to control their minds...maybe even throw in a few Q catch phrases here and there...if you can convince the magates that these websites are trying to control their minds, they'll freak the fuck out...
maybe post this shit under a pseudonym online, like "proudpeopleposttruth".....nothing untrue in that name...nothing untrue in anything i just said...
 

Fogdog

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good article.

This paragraph citing a Russian mouthpiece makes me laugh:

PolitNavigator’s editor, Sergey Stepanov, said Washington turns a blind eye to what he says are Ukraine’s anti-democratic actions and instead labels those who point them out “anti-Ukrainian propagandists” and “agents of the FSB.”

He sounds like a Republican crying about Democrats "spying" on Trump's campaign.
 

hanimmal

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KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A series of cyberattacks on Tuesday knocked the websites of the Ukrainian army, the defense ministry and major banks offline, Ukrainian authorities said, as tensions persisted over the threat of a possible Russian invasion.

Still, there was no indication the relatively low-level, distributed-denial-of-service attacks might be a smokescreen for more serious and damaging cyber mischief.

At least 10 Ukrainian websites were unreachable due to the attacks, including the defense, foreign and culture ministries and Ukraine’s two largest state banks. In such attacks, websites are barraged with a flood of junk data packets, rendering them unreachable.

“We don’t have any information of other disruptive actions that (could) be hidden by this DDoS attack,” said Victor Zhora, a top Ukrainian cyberdefense official. He said emergency response teams were working to cut off the attackers and recover services.

Customers at Ukraine’s largest state-owned bank, Privatbank, and the state-owned Sberbank reported problems with online payments and the banks’ apps.

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Among the attackers’ targets was the hosting provider for Ukraine’s army and Privatbank, said Doug Madory, director of internet analysis at the network management firm Kentik Inc.

“There is no threat to depositors’ funds,” Zhora’s agency, the Ukrainian Information Ministry’s Center for Strategic Communications and Information Security, said in a statement. Nor did the attack affect the communications of Ukraine’s military forces, said Zhora.

It was too early to say who was behind the attack, he added.

The ministry statement suggested Russian involvement: “It is possible that the aggressor resorted to tactics of petty mischief, because his aggressive plans aren’t working overall,” the Ukrainian statement said.

Quick attribution in cyberattacks is typically difficult, as aggressors often try to hide their tracks.

“We need to analyze logs from IT providers,” Zhora said

Oleh Derevianko, a leading private-sector expert and founder of the ISSP cybersecurity firm, said Ukrainians are always worried that such “noisy” cyberattacks could be masking something more sinister.

Escalating fears about a Russian invasion of Ukraine eased slightly as Russia sent signals Tuesday that it might be pulling back from the brink, but Western powers demanded proof.

The cyber aggression is nevertheless typical of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who likes to try to keep his adversaries off balance.

“These attacks are ratcheting up attention and pressure,” said Christian Sorensen, the CEO of the cybersecurity firm SightGain who previously worked for U.S. Cyber Command. “The purpose at this stage is to increase leverage in negotiations.”

Ukraine has been subject to a steady diet of Russian aggression in cyberspace since 2014, when Russia annexed the Crimean Peninsula and backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.

On Jan. 14, a cyberattack that damaged servers at Ukraine’s State Emergency Service and at the Motor Transport Insurance Bureau with a malicious “wiper” cloaked as ransomware. The damage proved minimal — some cybersecurity experts think that was by design, given the capabilities of Russian state-backed hackers. A message posted simultaneously on dozens of defaced Ukrainian government websites said: “Be afraid and expect the worst.”

Serhii Demediuk, the No. 2 official at Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council, called the Jan. 14 attack “part of a full-scale Russian operation directed at destabilizing the situation in Ukraine, aimed at exploding our Euro-Atlantic integration and seizing power.”

Such attacks are apt to continue as Putin tries to “degrade” and “delegitimize” trust in Ukrainian institutions, the cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike said in a subsequent blog post.

In the winters of 2015 and 2016, attacks on Ukraine’s power grid attributed to Russia’s GRU military intelligence agency temporarily knocked out power.

Russia’s GRU has also been blamed for perhaps the most devastating cyberattack ever. Targeting companies doing business in Ukraine in 2017, the NotPetya virus caused over $10 billion in damage worldwide. The virus, also disguised as ransomware, was a “wiper” virus that scrubbed entire networks.
 

Offmymeds

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I see that the AP puts out an article entitled "What Didn't Happen This Week" that goes over the lies. They got Biden on gun mfrs being the only industry that can't be sued. The gist of that was they can be sued but aren't because it's so difficult with the laws structured as they are. So far all of the rest are what you would imagine, conspiracy theories & other nonsense making the rounds on social media.
 

hanimmal

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I see that the AP puts out an article entitled "What Didn't Happen This Week" that goes over the lies. They got Biden on gun mfrs being the only industry that can't be sued. The gist of that was they can be sued but aren't because it's so difficult with the laws structured as they are. So far all of the rest are what you would imagine, conspiracy theories & other nonsense making the rounds on social media.
Ill have to check it out, they do a pretty good job of showing some of the larger narratives that are going around.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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this should trigger a retaliatory round of financial sanctions on pootin and the oligarchs...every time they do this shit, it costs them money, until EVERY single item of more value than a postage stamp they hold in the U.S. or any of our allies is GONE, and it would only take two or three attacks worth of retaliation to run them out of any assets they have outside of their own country and or china...
 

hanimmal

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While the International Criminal Court in The Hague is being called on to open an investigation into potential war crimes committed by Russian President Vladimir Putin in Ukraine, QAnon followers around the globe are praising him and casting him in a positive light. Though it might sound macabre, adherents of the bizarre and all-encompassing conspiracy movement believe that a major global crisis such as the current one is intrinsic to something they call the "Great Awakening," a prophecy that forms the crux of the massive conspiracythat claims top Democratic leaders will one day be arrested for running a global sex trafficking ring.

Hence, QAnon followers have taken to social media in droves to explain that what's really happening in Ukraine and how the invasion by Russian troops is actually everything "going as planned." Case in point: the Conspirituality podcast, which studies the intersection of right-wing conspiracy theories and faux wellness, shared on its Instagram account a screenshot of one user stating that the "harvesting and trafficking of humans and children….it is all being stopped for good" — because of the ongoing fighting in Ukraine. "The old central bank systems are to be switched off, humanity if being liberated from its slave masters, and true freedom, health and abundance is at our doorstep," the QAnon adherent continued, adding "nothing can stop what is coming."

As Newsweek reported, John Sabal, who previously went by the name QAnon John on Telegram, praised Putin in a series of Telegram posts positioning him as some kind of hero. "Putin is straight gangsta," he wrote. "MSM (mainstream media) is totally losing their minds right now,"

This isn't the first time a massive geopolitical event has been co-opted by QAnon's all-encompassing conspiracy theory. Previously, global events ranging from Donald Trump's presidency to the COVID-19 pandemic to Canada's anti-vaccine trucker protests have all been integrated into the QAnon narrative. Indeed, QAnon followers have an indefatigable ability to fit any news item under its umbrella conspiracy that the world is run by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles who just happen to mostly be Democratic leaders. And, as if it needed to be said, none of it ever manifests.

One of QAnon's biggest baseless conspiracy theories, known as #SaveTheChildren — which dates back to 2016 — claims that Hillary Clinton and John Podesta, her former campaign manager, operated a child sexual abuse ring. Years later, there is still no evidence that there is any child sex–trafficking ring, or evidence of the other misinformation the conspiracy theory has generated. Still, the false narrative has not lost steam, and is now magically tied to yet another massive global event.

So why does this keep happening with QAnon? Is it a case of mass delusional, or textbook cult dynamics?

Experts tell Salon it's a mix of both.

Matthew Remski, a co-host of the aforementioned Conspiritualitypodcast and a cult dynamics researcher, told Salon in an interview that QAnon's attempt to reduce the war in Ukraine to being about saving children isn't necessarily a way for the conspiracy theorists to rationalize what's happening, but instead a strategy to keep QAnon followers engaged and focused.

"Everything that the QAnon imaginarium drives toward is on display at scale, but in real world form — and that's a real problem for a community that imagined something like this needing to happen, but in some sort of different way or for a different purpose," Remski said. "We have a real war that's very complex and yet quite visible, and it's a real challenge for the person who has been building a war-like alternate reality that only they and their comrades can see, and that they've had to convince and recruit everybody else into believing it."

Joe Kelly, a cult intervention specialist, added that all QAnon has to lure its followers is this narrative of the so-called Great Awakening.

"They have some fundamental narratives that they keep pushing forward, and in various forms, depending on which conspiracy theory arises," Kelly said. "In this case, it's a geopolitical consequence dealing with Russia and Ukraine, and somehow they tie in their own justification." Hence, the need to manipulate reality and fold everything back into QAnon.

Remski and his team explained on Instagram this is another example of QAnon's playbook when a massive geopolitical event occurs. Their playbook, which is often propagated by wellness influencers who have become de facto QAnon followers, goes like this: first, communicate to one's followers that such geopolitical events aren't "real" and, rather, are part of some bigger plan, which usually has to do with child trafficking. Followers are then advised to do nothing in the face of said event, which is seen as the "enlightened" option. As part of this, followers are often advised to know which type of media to consume — another sign of "enlightenment"— and the source posting is the only person to be believed.

This strategy might be seen as a form of spiritual bypassing, a term developed by a psychotherapist in the 1980s to describe hiding behind spirituality to avoid emotional issues. Remski said in these wellness communities that are QAnon-adjacent, spiritual bypassing is a "self-soothing tactic that goes too far."

"In some of the yoga-related, Pastel Q posts that we've come across so far, that's kind of the name of the game," Remski said. "They say, 'I see this thing in the world, it appears to be terrifying, but I'm going to tell my followers that the secret truth of the circumstance is that everyone is on the verge of some kind of miraculous transformation, and we can't be sure what that is yet, but that's what we have to keep our focus on.'"

Remski added this strategy "gives people permission for their boredom to be participatory."

Daniel Shaw, a psychoanalyst who specializes in cult recovery and who wrote a book called "Traumatic Narcissism and Recovery," told Salon that QAnon followers' praise of Putin also aligns with the conspiracy theory group's ideology.

"There's a very strong leadership group here who are interested in undermining democratic institutions, for whatever their ideological reasons might be, and they've aligned with Putin because Putin is representative to them of white nationalism and anti-wokeness," Shaw said. Indeed, some QAnon supporters are conservative leaders in the U.S., like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), who famously defended the movement and has made social media posts in the past that indicate that she is an adherent.

"Not all the [QAnon] followers understand what they're following," Shaw opined, noting that more people have become engaged with such frivolous conspiracy theories amid the pandemic. "Followers have been have been mainly recruited more than ever during COVID, especially during lockdown, where people are isolated, where they're dependent on what they see on their screens for interaction and they believe that they are involved in a very important movement that fights evil," he added.

Shaw said that with cults in general, which QAnon is often called, there's a strong focus on "purification."

"Purification is always at the heart of a cult," Shaw said. "The leaders believe in a certain kind of purity and they profess to know how to restore this purity."

Shaw added that in general, from a mental health perspective, people grasping on to QAnon conspiracy theories speaks to a "time of increased paranoia in this country."

"There are fears that are generated at almost every turn of the century, and that has to do with some kind of paranoid fear," Shaw said. "Psychologically, my view is that people seek out these kinds of movements, because they give meaning to their lives when they feel uncertain about what's going on in the world."
 

hanimmal

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Since my troll's thread got shut down, I guess I will have to post this here.

I think that the new trolls spam goals is to make the forum as toxic as possible leading up to the elections while spreading as much hate mongering right wing propaganda as possible.

Same shit different election.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Since my troll's thread got shut down, I guess I will have to post this here.

I think that the new trolls spam goals is to make the forum as toxic as possible leading up to the elections while spreading as much hate mongering right wing propaganda as possible.

Same shit different election.
they all just say the same shit...i give them all a chance, and they all fail, they don't make me feel toxic towards anyone but them.
 

doublejj

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Since my troll's thread got shut down, I guess I will have to post this here.

I think that the new trolls spam goals is to make the forum as toxic as possible leading up to the elections while spreading as much hate mongering right wing propaganda as possible.

Same shit different election.
1 ruble per day...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I am thinking more the casual reader of this forum that comes into the political forum to see these white nationalist propaganda talking points in the titles and gets turned off.
i suppose there are some, but a lot of them that were on this site to begin with would be just as likely to say "what the fuck is this shit?" and look anyway...
 

rabbita78

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leftism is so brittle & fragile - that a single russian troll might totally destroy it

if your worldview is so brittle & fragile that obvious truths will destroy it

it deserves to be destroyed
 

DIY-HP-LED

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leftism is so brittle & fragile - that a single russian troll might totally destroy it

if your worldview is so brittle & fragile that obvious truths will destroy it

it deserves to be destroyed
WTF is "leftism", do you even have a fucking clue as to what you are spouting you racist moron. You are a racist traitor and liberal democracies will do amazing things to defend themselves from your kind of fascism. America has not really even begun to deal with your kind yet, that comes with winning elections and it looks like the democrats will.

I don't think you're a Russian, they don't hire them that fucking stupid for this kind of work and the politics section of a pot forum would not be on their radar. I think you are an American racist asshole and are using several socks as your kind always seems to do. This tells me you are fear driven, scared stupid and it shows, you are losing and know it.
 

Herb & Suds

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WTF is "leftism", do you even have a fucking clue as to what you are spouting you racist moron. You are a racist traitor and liberal democracies will do amazing things to defend themselves from your kind of fascism. America has not really even begun to deal with your kind yet, that comes with winning elections and it looks like the democrats will.

I don't think you're a Russian, they don't hire them that fucking stupid for this kind of work and the politics section of a pot forum would not be on their radar. I think you are an American racist asshole and are using several socks as your kind always seems to do. This tells me you are fear driven, scared stupid and it shows, you are losing and know it.
I don’t know what he said
But I’m positive I agree with you :blsmoke: :roll:
 

Rob Roy

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I offer a definition of "political bi-partisan".

It is when two rival, but similar gangs, agree to participate in the removal of individual rights under the guise of an entrenched false dichotomy being "choice".

Okay, I'll dumb it down...

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