BHO vs Rick Simpson Oils

qwizoking

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Soooo...are you taking a cbd rich tincture cause of the recent craze (caused by money)? Or because you don't wish to get high? Or do you believe that to be the most effective medicine for your condition?
Because recent studies (2013) along with the others suggest thc is what someone with ulcerative colitis or crohns should take .....

And no don't use any of those
 
Primarily because I don't want to be high all the time and they help more with controlling the GI spasms and thus far have helped prevent ulcers. A few months back right after my 22nd birthday I got hit with a reality check when I started having lower and upper GI bleeding and a whole basket of other stuff with it. I mean, I don't smoke specifically CBD rich strains only, I've tried maybe 70 different strains now and they all have their own ups and downs, but when I first tried cannatonic is was like instantaneous relief to the "burning sensation" i consistently have. So I naturally figure a more concentrated dose of CBD might help if not well, I'll have to grow a few more pounds of high THC enriched bud like White Widow or Head Cheese. Also I'm trying to move away from smoking just because I've been having such bad headaches from smoking.
 

qwizoking

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I like to make hash pills for my medical use..hash is so much better for you and to not combust anything is even better
You can make quality hash using a quick wash and alcohol..iso or everclear for example and add hot coconut oil until all is dissolved (don't forget to decarb by your preferred method)
Lasts longer than smoking and much easier to accurately dose over edibles...more like actual medicine I suppose
 
So this is some oil I made using 91% Isopropyl alcohol. I made about an oz and a half from a pound of Super Lemon Haze trim. I froze my bud and ground it up, just like I would for butter(No one else seems to try this so I thought why the hell not). I refroze it for 72 hours, then the fun part; putting a cup of ground trim into each mason jar then filling each jar half way full with alcohol and shaving each jar for 1 minute while working out of my freezer which is set to 10° F strained them and put the solution back in jars for 24 hours (you'd be surprised how much sediment is allowed to settle).

All levity aside, I took my electric griddle outside this morning and went to work. I had 2 1 quart mason jars full of solution and it took a good 6 hours to boil off at 25°F outside with the griddle at 400°F lol. Oil never went above 165° according to my trusty candy thermometer. This is my end result.

It's pretty smooth though it's got a semi-harsh aftertaste, I decarb'd it of a coffee burner for about 25 minutes until the large bubbles stopped in the measuring cup its in.
 

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AlGore

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First of all, don't listen to jerkoffs from Texas about the medicinal use of cannabis compounds. QW likes to jump in any thread he can to suggest that you make qwiso instead of and in spite of what you are actually asking about.

CBD is not a craze, or about the money. In fact, here in Co, cdb rich strains are provided for free for many in need. Stop spreading false info because of your bias and ignorance QW.

My GF uses high cdb(usualy around 10%THC and 15%CBD strains) for anxiety and stress with minimal high so she can not be stoned while working. My mother uses cbd strains and tinctures for pain from hip surgery, as a sleep aid, and to promote weight gain. As the pain pills big pharma was pumping down her throat caused her to loose appetite and weight.

And lets not forget about people that have deadly seizures or spasms. That either have the choice of deadly pills that don't work, or a tiny bit of high cbd concentrate that gives them their life back...
 

qwizoking

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23648372/
Article talking about benefits of thc.regarding crohns .from 2013 as i mentioned..you can find the rest.....

I came in telling what kind of etoh to use and was very helpful in my answers

Suggested a quick wash in the already mentioned etoh or any alcohol...never told him to just do a qwiso...and yes suggested for safety reasons and ease

Google "big pharma" and you pull up conspiracy theories and bull..I am actually a type of pharmacist lol...know the system quite well and as soon as I hear the words "big pharma" I know what they're bout to say...haha

So you missed all my multiple studies.. showing cbd a cb1 antagonist actually increasing seizures because. Cb1 is naturally modulated during a seizure to control neuro excitement.
" CB1-receptor antagonism resulted in seizure durations that were protracted to a level consistent with the clinical condition status epilepticus. Furthermore, we determined that during an short-term pilocarpine-induced seizure, levels of the endogenous CB1 ligand 2-arachidonylglycerol increased significantly within the hippocampal brain region. These data not only indicate anticonvulsant activity of exogenously applied cannabinoids but also suggest that endogenous cannabinoid tone modulates seizure termination and duration through activation of the CB1 receptor".

Cbd is not some miracle cannabinoid. There is a reason synthetic prescriptions focus on thc,I'm honestly disgusted with how everyone is focusing on cbd cause you don't get high. I was hoping this country was staring to come around, you don't have to be ashamed or something to be high. Cbc thcv cbnd ect really all cannabinoids are psychoactive like most terps and all have wonderful medicinal activity. Studies are currently focusing on cbd because its legal and is still grown on hemp making it easy to obtain.. I could rant on the subject for a while.....lol Gupta is a joke to people that are deep in this industry..lemme guess that's where your getting this from? His special or whatever on CNN? I think it was..

You've been following me around trolling me every chance you get...ever since I told you rso was crap and didn't feel like explaining

I told you to look it up....there are many threads in this very section that go into much detail

Like the iso thread lol...where'd ya go bro? No comeback? Tell me all my lies and how my iso doesn't cost what it does lmao and no I don't use acs reagent iso?? Lol what?
Also tell me where you think the contaminates come from in cheap store iso... hmmmmmm?
I am well aware of how its produced
And don't get me started on vlads threads...yikes haha
I feel bad for you cause you have no clue ...
 

ontariobudder

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I don't like dark oil.....it has too much other stuff in it......rick simpson oil is an old school tek.....butane primary extraction/everclear second extraction is the way to go....way cleaner, and IMO safer to smoke.....
 

AlGore

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Lol, w/e you say QW. It's obvious you are biased and so is your info. I don't come back because often I'd rather spend my energy reading other posts, I typically comeback to previous posts after a few days if they still interest me.

People aren't ashamed to be high, well maybe some are, but its a matter of wanting to treat naturally without being stoned. My mother is 66 yo, and only smoked weed in the 60's and 70's. She can either take pain pills and get addicted and fucked up digestion and not want to eat, or she can take some cbd tincture in the am, and smoke 1 hit of some pre '98 bubba if her pain acts up really bad it doesn't come back for hours and hours without making her so high it's uncomfortable for her.

And no, I've never actually sat down and watched the CNN thing myself although have heard about it from people. I actually despise Dr. Gupta bc he is nothing more than a pundit.

You are one of those people that only looks at the evidence that fits your own theories or preconceived notions, that my friend is what we call pseudoscience. And it's why I call you out when I see your shit because it's always the same things from you.

When I can watch my mother be an agony, then take one puff of a mostly CBD strain and within minutes has completely forgotten about it, that is all the evidence I need.

And perhaps yes it is my fault, I only read this op earlier in the week then came back later and saw your comments telling him to make ISO, I sometimes only read the last page of comments....

However, If you really wanted to suggest something for this particular op, given that he seems to have done zero research, I wouldn't be telling him to using anything flammable or explosive, lol. Even with something as stable as otc iso.



EDIT:

As for RSO, yes it is indeed some gross stuff, the best comment made about RSO that I've heard was from a panel discussion at the cup in Wa, he said it's a very "crude" concentrate.

However, to people like my father, who's wife has cancer, and would like to try alternate treatments, RSO is much more simple and relatively safe to produce on large scales when compared to even QWISO. And for oral consumption or topical use, a lil chlorophyll and perhaps trace solvent are not going to harm you in any way. There is more deadly trace and straight up harmful ingredients in the food you get at the grocery store.
 

AlGore

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^^^ You also might notice a trend of people that don't live in med states and make their own shit at home that think they are expert chemists because they all jerk each other off on forums.
 

Twitch

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^^^ You also might notice a trend of people that don't live in med states and make their own shit at home that think they are expert chemists because they all jerk each other off on forums.
ok...
actually i have sent my stuff up to CO and i have handed my resume out to a few places, all of them said that i am more then qualified to work in the industry, and on that note this country boy that dont know dick apparently has a job lined up when i move my family up there...... and no not a bud-tender, actually gardening and doing their concentrates....

and yes coming from my state i actually do have a decent resume for the industry

i have said it to you before and ill say it again ignorance is bliss isnt it?????

so please take your high and mighty, i am in a med state so our stuff has to be better then yours, bull shit and shut the hell up....
 

Texas(THC)

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dont stereotype it makes you look like a even bigger jackass, you do reaize the same "trend" applies to med states but on a much larger scale.

I think it scares him knowing that one day he may be working for a Texan (it not that bad)

damn you qwiso, and all your helpful information haha
 

Twitch

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that was as nice as i could have said it...

lol and ironically you now have 3 rednecks chiming in mr. gore
 
Gentlemen, I didn't start this to find out who's right and who's wrong or what's the best. As I stated in my posts, I've tried many things some was stuff that worked and some that didn't. Like that oil run was a first and getting 16 grams from 14.4oz of dried trim isn't to bad I hope. I've been smoking it with a little bit of bud and for the most part it's really really smooth.



I never claimed to be a "Home Chemist" or "expert" and nor do I jack off to the forums, I don't have time for that non-sense, that's what my fiance is for right? (Just kidding I love her to pieces) Everyone is allowed an opinion, and sometimes they're all shit but that's the great thing about it. We all are allowed to fuck up until we get it right, hopefully in a safe stable environment. Not everyone can make the stuff, and EVERYONE has a different tolerance and "trips" in the way it will react with them. What's good for one doesn't mean it's good for all.
 
I don't like dark oil.....it has too much other stuff in it......rick simpson oil is an old school tek.....butane primary extraction/everclear second extraction is the way to go....way cleaner, and IMO safer to smoke.....
Anything other than Grain Alcohol is Toxic (and then there is the argument alcohol itself is a drug which you can Drink yourself to death). Every single can of butane or ISO or ether or naptha they ALL tell you the same thing, Not intended for human consumption, contact poison control if ingested or swallowed. So regardless you're adding chemicals to change the natural molecules of a already fine product. The only "safe" way to smoke bud is doing just that; Smoking dry cured bud. Everything has risks it just depends if you're willing to take them.
 

lio lacidem

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Ill chime in too lol. Most of the folks i know making concentrates in legal states are not originally from there so imho the we do it better argument is null and void
 
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