best way to dry??

mrhappyme

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hi people has and one done a comparasion on drying as a hole plant or by drying just the buds? I got told by a old chool grower that you end up with more weight if you dry in in the plant as the sugrs from the stem run in the bud, is this a crazy old tale do you think???
 

MOON SHINER

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I personally like to cut and manicure every bud before drying. Getting it to the same size and shape I want it to go into jars.
Then put the buds on a drying rack with a hydrometer to monitor temp and humidity.

I feel this is less work in the long run. I do not like trimming, drying, cut buds off stalks for jars, re-trim because some leaves were in between the bud and stalk. Just seems like more work to me.

It's easier to give every bud individual attention as opposed to each branch / cola as a whole.
I get a better end result and more consistent product.

Again just my opinion of what works for me. I've tried many others and stick to this method.

Happy growing!
 

Yekke

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I dry branches on a laundry drying rack.
40% RH, 24°C, oscillating 16" fan on 1/3 directed NOT toward the buds.

Once the smaller stems snap when bended I put the buds in a glass jar and burp it daily for 10 days. Drying usually takes 4-5 days.
Then I remove all the buds and check for final humidity adjustment. If all is good they move to the fridge for storage.
 

Wilksey

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hi people has and one done a comparasion on drying as a hole plant or by drying just the buds? I got told by a old chool grower that you end up with more weight if you dry in in the plant as the sugrs from the stem run in the bud, is this a crazy old tale do you think???

I did a whole plant dry the last grow, and then a "typical" manicured bud dry during my most recent, and I honestly can't tell any noticeable difference.

/shrug

Best of luck to you, regardless.
 

undead

New Member
I personally like to cut and manicure every bud before drying. Getting it to the same size and shape I want it to go into jars.
Then put the buds on a drying rack with a hydrometer to monitor temp and humidity.

I feel this is less work in the long run. I do not like trimming, drying, cut buds off stalks for jars, re-trim because some leaves were in between the bud and stalk. Just seems like more work to me.

It's easier to give every bud individual attention as opposed to each branch / cola as a whole.
I get a better end result and more consistent product.

Again just my opinion of what works for me. I've tried many others and stick to this method.

Happy growing!
I think you meant hygrometer. It measures relative humidity, but there are units which measure both rh and temperature.

I've dried both on and off the stem, I've not seen any calculable difference in weight.
 

Terk1974

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I have a couple patients that insist that I leave the bud, trimmed of course, on the branch like vine ripened tomato as it were. They just pop a bud off before they need it, they let it dry out real slowly on their own, while still on the branch, which is fine by me so long as anyone else using it understands if they screwed it up it was their doing. But they swear by the flavor and effect, we worked the weight out but there's more moisture and they know this so they are paying for a bit more weight.
 

mudballs

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No, it is pure bullshit.

The only reason I hang upside down is to get whatever stayed from the leaves to dry upwards. I just think it looks much better.
Sugars in the plant don't go "down". It just isn't the way it works in capillaries.
i'm going to counter this post.
what's important here is if the plant is hung upside down or not. let's say the plant is cut and hung upside down to dry. it most certainly can be proven that 'some' of the remain sugars will continue to be translocated to the fruiting portion (sinks) of the flowering plant, even if for a brief period.
http://www.biologyreference.com/Ta-Va/Translocation.html

at the risk of a flame war, it can be analytically proven that a slight increase in weight would be realized by leaving the nug on a branch while drying.i'm talking near negligible, but a scientifically sound principal passed down by ancient growers til finally proven by someone in a lab coat and microscope.
 

purplehays1

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depends on the climate where u live, but i just hang mine up from fishing line or twine in an area that is less than 60% humidity. If your plants are large break them into smaller pieces, but u can hang whole plants if u want. If you live in a wet climate u will want to get a dehumidifier and be vigilant about watching ur buds for mold as they dry. nothing is worse than ruining ur hard work at this point, its really simple but u can totally fuck ur buds if u are lazy about it. I live in SoCal and i can just hang mine and never worry cuz its an arid climate, but if ur in florida or something u have to be a lot more cautious.
 

purplehays1

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I have a couple patients that insist that I leave the bud, trimmed of course, on the branch like vine ripened tomato as it were. They just pop a bud off before they need it, they let it dry out real slowly on their own, while still on the branch, which is fine by me so long as anyone else using it understands if they screwed it up it was their doing. But they swear by the flavor and effect, we worked the weight out but there's more moisture and they know this so they are paying for a bit more weight.
this is actually how i do my own. I grow only for myself and i just put the branches in a box thats almost air tight and they cure on the stem very very nicely.
 

Yekke

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i'm going to counter this post.
what's important here is if the plant is hung upside down or not. let's say the plant is cut and hung upside down to dry. it most certainly can be proven that 'some' of the remain sugars will continue to be translocated to the fruiting portion (sinks) of the flowering plant, even if for a brief period.
http://www.biologyreference.com/Ta-Va/Translocation.html

at the risk of a flame war, it can be analytically proven that a slight increase in weight would be realized by leaving the nug on a branch while drying.i'm talking near negligible, but a scientifically sound principal passed down by ancient growers til finally proven by someone in a lab coat and microscope.
I'm not saying your theory is sound (as it isn't from a physics point of view as you neglect the capillary force that could easily prevent the liquid from flowing at all) but as I don't use analytic scales to measure weed I don't think that difference is relevant. Leave a bud leaf half way intact and you gain more weight than what you'r talking about.

Translocation got (almost) nothing to do with gravity, it is maintained by the Turgur pressure, the one that the plant uses to move the fluids around (and keep the leaves "straight"). It is quite a few times the atmospheric pressure. Compare it with the gravitational power and you see why it is negligible.

-Yekke, From Yekke Seeds, where all workers wear a lab coat and use a microscope. (and 3/4 also carry an agronomy degree)


P.S.
Big scale people used to trim the plants while hung upside down when there are space restriction. I believe this is where it started. It is just plain easier to do if you want to keep the plant intact and have both arms free for trimming.
A while ago a lot of people kept the leaves on and just dried the plants upside down and when needed crumbled away excessive leaves. I am truly not a fond of this method as I believe it breaks too many trichomes in the process.
 

mudballs

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I'm not saying your theory is sound (as it isn't from a physics point of view as you neglect the capillary force that could easily prevent the liquid from flowing at all) but as I don't use analytic scales to measure weed I don't think that difference is relevant. Leave a bud leaf half way intact and you gain more weight than what you'r talking about.

Translocation got (almost) nothing to do with gravity, it is maintained by the Turgur pressure, the one that the plant uses to move the fluids around (and keep the leaves "straight"). It is quite a few times the atmospheric pressure. Compare it with the gravitational power and you see why it is negligible.

-Yekke, From Yekke Seeds, where all workers wear a lab coat and use a microscope. (and 3/4 also carry an agronomy degree)


P.S.
Big scale people used to trim the plants while hung upside down when there are space restriction. I believe this is where it started. It is just plain easier to do if you want to keep the plant intact and have both arms free for trimming.
A while ago a lot of people kept the leaves on and just dried the plants upside down and when needed crumbled away excessive leaves. I am truly not a fond of this method as I believe it breaks too many trichomes in the process.
nice.i did mention weight difference was negligible, and near immeasurable. i mention gravity because anything other than upside down would easily counter any remaining pressure forces (capillary,turgur), probably within a several hours.my hope was to give validity to the concept, even if it's near imperceptible. and moreover some people are grotesguely adamant on using any and all beneficial means available. i just wanted to say it's feasibly beneficial and not altogether bullshit.i know it's like .0005 grams additional (ex.), but who's to say about the other variables.flavor, color, rate of dry. i won't stand here and question your methods and beliefs.i will try to give interested parties accurate information. it seems if we could come to a consensus on the remaining forces we'd be done here. i equate it to cutting a garden hose off at the spiggot instead of at the spray nozzle. still a fair amount of liquids to be used.yekke seeds eh...got any sour grapes? yumbo
 

Yekke

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I only work on one strain at the moment - Golden Diesel. You can find info in my signature ;-)
 

v.s one

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I have dried both whole plants and single buds. The big difference to me was the smell is more better if you dry the whole plant. If a bud is three quarters water then dry is dry either way.
 

bullwinkle60

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hi people has and one done a comparasion on drying as a hole plant or by drying just the buds? I got told by a old chool grower that you end up with more weight if you dry in in the plant as the sugrs from the stem run in the bud, is this a crazy old tale do you think???
I do believe this is bullshit.
 
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