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Best training/topping method for large trees?

Discussion in 'Indoor Growing' started by Songbud, Feb 7, 2018.


    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    There are some good tutorials on growweedeasy , maybe nothing exactly like what I do but its just a method I use. Any training method with work well. from mainlining to LST, I find mainlining a bit slower and LST been the quickest method of getting a bush going. The main thing for me is to take away the Apical dominance. Once you have done that then you have all sorts of options.

    I take supper cropping a bit further as branches do try to straighten out, hence why I tie a cane to the branch once its horizontal and also tie it to its opposite sister branch. That keeps them flat allowing the nodes to start growing vertical again and spreads the canopy wider but not so deep. The results are kind of like a Scrog but without the net and not as much time

    Another great option as I touched upon would be to start LSTing, get yourself maybe 15 colas and open them up either with a support net or stakes. Your lighting will penetrate the whole thing and your RWDC will ensure pretty quick growth.
    I would probably try both methods at the same time on different plants, see how you like each.




    You can mix and match any training method you like, there probably isn't a "best" option, just what suits the grower and his situation, time scale, lighting ect.

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Wire scraps work well as trainers .

    I though about buying. Nite eyes gear ties
    Just wind around the branch and bend her where you want.

    Just not cheap for a bunch lol hence the wire

    Have to add that you just want to remove the wire after it is trained so it doesnt pinch it

    Songbud Member

    I can't thank you guys enough for your help. So, I topped the plants once thinking I was already late in the game. At this point, I think I could still do another round of topping OR a round of fimming and all of that in addition to LST. I think it is too late for me to manifold but I definitely want to try that next time. Am I right? Wrong? Am I crazy? Am I in waaaaaaaay over my head? Hahaha. It's okay to say it. I was never under the impression that this would be easy, and it was rollitup.org that made me pretty confident that I could get help when (not if) I got into trouble(s). So thanks again. If you don't mind, I'm going to post a few photos of the best plant from each of my three strains and see what you guys think I should do based on where I am at right now. Don't be afraid to tell me if I am doing something wrong, please.

    Songbud Member

    This is Cinderella XX (Cinderella 99 but feminized) from Brother's Grimm Seeds. It's supposed to be a pure sativa and has been the heartiest strain and this the heartiest plant right from the beginning. I topped the cola on the very top and also the two just beneath on each side. I feel like maybe I wasn't supposed to do this on the lower ones? It seems to have worked though. I'm using R/O with N-Cal-Mag, PowerSi, and Clean Grow Nutrients (the commercial line) with an EC at 1.33 right now and pH of 5.3. It's twelve inches tall and I first put the seeds into paper towels on Christmas Eve although they didn't go into the system until five weeks ago and I probably put them in before they were ready. This is true for the other strains as well. 20180215_155040.jpg 20180215_155120.jpg 20180215_155202.jpg
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    Songbud Member

    This is called "Pillow Factory" by Ethos. No offense to them, but I don't really like that name. Since it's a cross of Black Fire and Mandarin Sunset, I have been calling it "Black Hole Sun". It's supposed to be indica dominant. Anyway, this strain has been the slowest of them all to root and get moving. This plant is about nine inches tall with EC of 0.66 and pH at 5.6. I topped once and it looks like it worked. It's just lagging behind the others kind of no matter what I do, but it seems healthy. One of the four seeds seems to gets nutrient burn really easily so I have kept the EC low.
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    Songbud Member

    This is Fire OG X Manic from Golden Coast Genetics. It's a pure indica, or so I was told. Anyway, I topped the center cola and it seems to have worked well. I also topped the ones right underneath and to the sides. I don't think I was supposed to do this in retrospect, and I can't tell yet if they are working or now. This plant is 11 1/2 inches tall with EC at 1.07 and pH at 5.3. Thanks again for any and all input and suggestions. 20180215_155341.jpg 20180215_155357.jpg 20180215_155406.jpg
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