Best outdoor strains that are mold resistant

xtsho said:

Ethiopian is a very mold resistant strain. Unfortunately it takes about 14 weeks to finish which may or may not work for some people.

I did have one survive all winter in the unheated greenhouse that I'm growing right now. I'm planning on finishing it indoors under lights. I still can't figure out why it lived all winter but never went into flower. Needs a feed but I've found that many of these landrace strains are sensitive to fertilization and I'd rather underfeed a little than overfeed. The ones I grew indoors got really mad at me when I fed them and I was giving them a pretty low EC. It needs a good watering so I'm going to give it some JLF since I know it's hungry.

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Any Ethiopian strains in particular?
Unrelated, but I’ve heard Vietnam Black is very resistant, as well.

What kind of climate are you in?
I can totally appreciate that plant you have there- I kind of want a strain that I can start with the Summer light, and let it veg through Fall where I can move it into a greenhouse and give supplemental light, then let the natural darkout takeover for 12-13hrs/day; great plant for getting a mixed-light Winter crop.

MAGpie81 said:

Any Ethiopian strains in particular?
Unrelated, but I’ve heard Vietnam Black is very resistant, as well.

What kind of climate are you in?
I can totally appreciate that plant you have there- I kind of want a strain that I can start with the Summer light, and let it veg through Fall where I can move it into a greenhouse and give supplemental light, then let the natural darkout takeover for 12-13hrs/day; great plant for getting a mixed-light Winter crop.

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Pacific Northwest right near 45°.

That's an ACE Ethiopian. Now that you mention Vietnamese Black ACE has an Orient Express hybrid of Vietnamese Black and China Yunnan that takes 8-10 weeks that is supposed to be pretty resistant as well. I have a pack of those seeds but haven't grown any yet.

xtsho said:

Pacific Northwest right near 45°.

That's an ACE Ethiopian. Now that you mention Vietnamese Black ACE has an Orient Express hybrid of Vietnamese Black and China Yunnan that takes 8-10 weeks that is supposed to be pretty resistant as well. I have a pack of those seeds but haven't grown any yet.

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Nice, I lived in Stumptown, on that parallel, for over a decade, but am on the Mendo Coast now, in the fog belt. I have friends who let me put plants at their place just a little bit further inland and the difference in climate is considerable. Point being- I really want to breed a strain that will grow well and with good resistances to my particular locale.

I’ve only bought seeds once but keep hearing good things about ACE. Might give them a try next season as an addition to my own seed, and maybe see if one of those Asian crosses should get worked into my S.African Durban-Zulu cross.

Thanks for the info.

MAGpie81 said:

I build my own soil mixes from recycled soils and include redwood humus, bamboo humus (and top cover with leaves of those two plants), pumice, and spent mash from a local brewery that’s been composted, plus vegetable plant compost.
The KwaZulu and the Durban have the same soil but I’ve noticed KZ is more susceptible to deficiencies/excess.
All of my plants are extremely flexible, so I think my available silica and potassium are good. Going to do no-till in the large planters and just keep adding to each season.

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Do you have your own red wriggler farm for worm castings? They produce the entire range of microorganisms that exist in nature. Adding that to your soil will help to keep the right balance when you try your non tilling option..it's best that way in my personal opinion. Haven't practiced it though .. studied the principles of permaculture for 5 years in the semi rain forests on our east coast.

Abstacticism said:

Do you have your own red wriggler farm for worm castings? They produce the entire range of microorganisms that exist in nature. Adding that to your soil will help to keep the right balance when you try your non tilling option..it's best that way in my personal opinion. Haven't practiced it though .. studied the principles of permaculture for 5 years in the semi rain forests on our east coast.

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I should build one. Good advice!
Cool that you studied permaculture. I’m learning it as I apply it in practice, but I’ve read a few chapters ahead of where I am

Phillybonker said:

Hows the grow going so far?, are the strains holding up against botrytis okay?

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So far so good. Right now a couple of the strains have started flowering and the only challenge so far has been a hard rain that bent over some branches and one whole plant. I was able to get them repaired and am hoping they recover.

I experimented with autoflowers this year too and unfortunately had some bud rot issues with them. I was able to salvage a lot of decent smoke out of it but it just has me wondering if BR can even be avoided without a greenhouse. I didn't do the greatest job taking care of them though. The climate I'm in just has too much humidity and rain for me to confidently have an outdoor grow go to harvest without losing a massive amount of bud from it.

So what I'm going to do is put up metal posts for trellis and try to make a makeshift greenhouse overtop with green house plastic. I'm still figuring out the details on how to frame it but I'm hoping it keeps the rain off them enough to prevent mold. Fingers crossed, wish me luck lol

MAGpie81 said:

I should build one. Good advice!
Cool that you studied permaculture. I’m learning it as I apply it in practice, but I’ve read a few chapters ahead of where I am

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They love many of your usual veggie peals and fruits. Avoid onion species, garlic, chillies And a lot of citrus. They like a little bit of citrus but it can make their environment too acidic very quickly. Balance is eccential in organic methods.
They like hair pockets and mango pips to make breeding pouches in.

Permaculture is a very productive perspective on how to approach your garden with a healthy nature in mind. Cannabis, being a psychoactive plant, responds to the happyneas of the environment and people she comes into contact with.

Happy learning on your journey!

the fast ogkz from hso just does not mould, even weeks of rain near harvest did nothing to it, stuff is bulletproof, plus it triggers flowers early and easily becomes an 8ft monster bush.

lungbutter said:

the fast ogkz from hso just does not mould, even weeks of rain near harvest did nothing to it, stuff is bulletproof, plus it triggers flowers early and easily becomes an 8ft monster bush.

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I am not that familiar with all the abreviatons for the new strains. What does ogkz stand for?

Abstacticism said:

I am not that familiar with all the abreviatons for the new strains. What does ogkz stand for?

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as far as i know the cross is (og kush x ruderalis) X (zkittles x og kush breath)

MAGpie81 said:

The Durban Poison is from Dutch Passion seeds, and they admit to having crossed it with an (unknown, to us) Indica back in the 1980s to give it genetics to help with the cooler climate of Holland; that’s the story anyway…
The KwaZulu I got through World of Seeds, and is said to be a “pure” landrace, from the Drakensburg mountain area (same as Durban, I think, though obviously Durban gets it’s name from that locale).

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How is it.going?

MAGpie81 said:

Nice, I lived in Stumptown, on that parallel, for over a decade, but am on the Mendo Coast now, in the fog belt. I have friends who let me put plants at their place just a little bit further inland and the difference in climate is considerable. Point being- I really want to breed a strain that will grow well and with good resistances to my particular locale.

I’ve only bought seeds once but keep hearing good things about ACE. Might give them a try next season as an addition to my own seed, and maybe see if one of those Asian crosses should get worked into my S.African Durban-Zulu cross.

Thanks for the info.

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I can drop some for you here too.

treedamien said:

I was not spraying. I didn't realize you could spray for bud rot. What's BT?

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Royal Kush did really well for me last year out doors in Oklahoma! It was especially resistant to bud worms, one plant had only one budworm, despite being a few feet away from another plant, (different strain), that had dozens! Also deals with mold well, finishes early and is killer weed.

treedamien said:

So last year I had a grow of around 20 plants that ended up getting a lot of bud rot. Disappointingly I could only salvage about 50% mostly due to a pretty wet fall. I was wondering what some good strains are that can handle moisture a little better and some unpredictability of weather. I grew Afghan Kush last year and heard it doesn't handle moisture very well.

I was reading that White Widow and Critical Kush do pretty well outdoors. I'd like to do a mixture of about 5 varieties this year. Any advice and recommendations are appreciated.

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ace seeds bangi haze, tikal, nepal jam, nepal jam x kali china, i guess northern lights could be also mold resistant, white widdow, blue dream, afghan, gorilla glue, super skunk, og kush....

Rurumo said:

If you are new to outdoor growing, you need cultivars that are relatively short flowering and known to be mold resistant. People recommending these long flowering sativas here don't know what they are talking about. One thing the Dutch have done well is produce good mold resistant outdoor plants for Northern climates. Biddy Early is another good plant that performs well in the Northern states, great mold resistance. Nothing is worse than losing a crop to budrot.

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A late reply here, but longer (but not too long) flowering strains can be good for certain environments. Early strains that are ready before late october here, experience warm moisture in late sep/early oct and cause a lot budrot. On the other hand, strains that are ready in early-mid november are always cleaner and more terpy due to lower heat, despite more moisture. Of course the pure sativas have problems getting through december/january.

Serious7 from serious seeds and freeze land from ak bean brains and poro purple valley from Mandela seeds and maybe sweet afghani delicious fast from sweet seeds.

Vashon Seeds-Early Bird. Done late August-Mid September. 42-49 days inside. Really good producer, for being so early.

Its originally from Super Sativa Seed Club from the 80s. Was specifically bred for mold resistance in Holland, and subsequently bred for the next 35+ years on Vashon Island in Washington state. Available at JamesBeanCompany.

jimihendrix1 said:

Vashon Seeds-Early Bird. Done late August-Mid September. 42-49 days inside. Really good producer, for being so early.

Its originally from Super Sativa Seed Club from the 80s. Was specifically bred for mold resistance in Holland, and subsequently bred for the next 35+ years on Vashon Island in Washington state. Available at JamesBeanCompany.

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Have you grown it outside?

Also something like lost coast plant therapy and bt helps too.