best oil extraction tube 100+ grams?
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Guzias1
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do you work closely with the grower? are you the grower???... im wondering here: you know how right around harvest, the trichomes turn from clear (to) milky (to) amber... does the extract come out lighter when you harvest earlier? ive seen some very very light material.. almost looked like snow.. do you know how to get the lighter product?? is it determined by time of chop???
i know the stuff that i have that is over a few months old, usually gets darker with age..
vacpurge
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interstinggggggggg... you have a much much different method.. what kind oof filter do you use on the end of that tube? does it come with a built in filter? or do you add an extra one??
from my experience, you want to filter the shit out of it! i used to start off 2-5 coffee filters, but now depending on my mood, i use 20 filters! 5 filters folded into a way where i get 4 layers times 5 = 20 filters
this in part with not grinding my product before i start
the first picture in this comment you left @
01-04-2013, 12:40 PM
og kush bottoms
now that looks prime, looks very very delicious, i would throw that straight into my tube.
. i have a suggestion i hope you try out, give 1 tubes worth a test run with this idea:,
try 1 can per oz you put into that tube:] (have an extra can or 2 just in case im off, but thats a pretty consistent ratio with this method no matter what trim i use)
(to determine how much that tube will weigh with the ungrinded og kush botoms, fill the tube up nice and evenly, but not too tight, like you were gonna blow it.... then empty the tube how ever you do into a bag/container, where you can transfer to a scale) (----if you didnt already know)
REMEMBER, FOR JUST THIS ONE TEST, DONT GRIND.
now, with a hose clamp, attach at the least 10 layers of unbleached coffee filters to the exit end of the tube.. dont be shy :] i use 20 :]
and from there on.. well, your name says vacpurge? can you post a pic of your vac purge tool/machine you are using?
and alsooo, i for about half the time, the temps of my product or no more than 110 deg.. then for the ending half, i never reach a temp over 140, usually 130ish... and i use a vacuum. its a very slow process.
i would never use boiling water in my prcoess :/ .. every time i get my temps to high (140+) i only end up with an oil or shatter.....
ok. first off. I screwed up my math last night... 52$ an oz and I used 4 so this oil cost 210$ + 70 in butane so 280$ for 19 grams.. so around 15$ per gram it costs to make.
I just use 1, plain, single unbleached filter that comes with the extractor.
I will try it your way tonight in my smaller extractor. I dont think I like that big one. I think thats why your stuff looks so awesome... because of the vac purging. maybe?
I will also try it with lower temps that you recommended.... im sure my temps are super high as the water was violently boiling at one point. which means over 212F.
I dont vac purge yet.. I made the name and it was supposed to be something like "vacpurgenoob" or "vacpurgequestion" I havnt actually vac purged yet, but I am planning on buying this stuff:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200866988441?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
and: http://www.ebay.com/itm/110982258796?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
so tonight: dont chop the bud, use tons of filters, and low temps!!!
thanks.
Guzias1
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damn! i want those toys!!!! i need to re map my setup pretty soon here..
i have a 3cfm pump, and a few home made chambers:]
i thought my 16in tube was cool, but after Fadedawg whipped out his 36 incher, i feel tiny
xmas is gonna extend through the beginning of 2013 for me..
try at least 10, no need to use 20 if your gonna use some good input.. i used 20, because i was working with a test run on something i had high doubts in... i put in a qp, got out 6.5 g.. i was very displeased, but that was only 2 tubes, not too much work, the dude seem stoked with it, he says he'll give me better material soon here, hopefully..
my personal rule of thumb with coffee filters:
4-7 filters = potent nugs, potent quality bowl packers = very high quality BH
6-13 filters = the final touch up clippings off the bud, sugar leaf, NO fan leaves, NO loose stems, if you would pick it out of your joint, pick it out of this trim :] = many times very high quality BH, a little less yield than above.
16-30 filters = no joke =(grinded buds fall into this filter category due to how fine it is) this is not my recommended way to make BH, but if you just really love dabs and oil, then you can still extract with tane. this is basically all the other shit off the trim. you just want to make sure you filter the hellllll out of it, you are shooting for cannabinoids, that is what you want, but with this material, good luck, you will get a lot of chlorophyll with this product, and chlorophyll is want you want to avoid..
-speaking from experience.
in the past, i have grinded, pulverized my buds, heated the shit out of, whipped, just straight up abused her...
when i finally made the BD wax chunk, i looked at her under the microscope, i could basically see a wholeeee bunch of trichomes stacked and stuck together, it was sooooo beautiful..
-so now in a perfect world, i would like my product to be handled like a baby from seed/clone to wax.. i feel every time someone squeezes the trim bag, throws the time bag, digs hand in it or what not, it all agitates it, knocks off my perfect trichs, gets lost in a crack of the bag, etc... imagine how i feel about a grinder now :/
that for my personal preference wax though! i love looking at good product under a microscope..
ive been able to get some nice stuff without the vac purge.
most the time, the left over 1-3 grams left over in my pyrex that i cant easily scoop out, i leave in the pyrex dish, and throw into my toaster over... depending on material, i pre heat it to - 100-150F and let it bake for a few hours, then i let it harden at room temp, and scrape.. it doesnt hurt to start off at a low temp, you really dont want to toast the shit quick, and you dont want to it become super runny, a lot of times, my stuff stays sticking to the side of my dish, and flat bottom has nothing... but like you said, its gonna leave a nice stink in the area.. so beware..
it should scrape pretty taffy like, thats one way i do it for shits and giggles, there is still soooo much tane in it, so you may want to stick with your current way without vac...
P.S. you really did trick me with your name, i came here to check you out and see all the nice vac purged material you had, and how you did it!! haaa. i hope you learn quick, order that ebay stuff right now! if it arrives this week, we can get you wax by the weekend! especially with that material my friend.. i'll dedicate a thread to my process sometime soon here..
i have a 3cfm pump, and a few home made chambers:]
i thought my 16in tube was cool, but after Fadedawg whipped out his 36 incher, i feel tiny
xmas is gonna extend through the beginning of 2013 for me..
try at least 10, no need to use 20 if your gonna use some good input.. i used 20, because i was working with a test run on something i had high doubts in... i put in a qp, got out 6.5 g.. i was very displeased, but that was only 2 tubes, not too much work, the dude seem stoked with it, he says he'll give me better material soon here, hopefully..
my personal rule of thumb with coffee filters:
4-7 filters = potent nugs, potent quality bowl packers = very high quality BH
6-13 filters = the final touch up clippings off the bud, sugar leaf, NO fan leaves, NO loose stems, if you would pick it out of your joint, pick it out of this trim :] = many times very high quality BH, a little less yield than above.
16-30 filters = no joke =(grinded buds fall into this filter category due to how fine it is) this is not my recommended way to make BH, but if you just really love dabs and oil, then you can still extract with tane. this is basically all the other shit off the trim. you just want to make sure you filter the hellllll out of it, you are shooting for cannabinoids, that is what you want, but with this material, good luck, you will get a lot of chlorophyll with this product, and chlorophyll is want you want to avoid..
-speaking from experience.
in the past, i have grinded, pulverized my buds, heated the shit out of, whipped, just straight up abused her...
when i finally made the BD wax chunk, i looked at her under the microscope, i could basically see a wholeeee bunch of trichomes stacked and stuck together, it was sooooo beautiful..
-so now in a perfect world, i would like my product to be handled like a baby from seed/clone to wax.. i feel every time someone squeezes the trim bag, throws the time bag, digs hand in it or what not, it all agitates it, knocks off my perfect trichs, gets lost in a crack of the bag, etc... imagine how i feel about a grinder now :/
that for my personal preference wax though! i love looking at good product under a microscope..
ive been able to get some nice stuff without the vac purge.
most the time, the left over 1-3 grams left over in my pyrex that i cant easily scoop out, i leave in the pyrex dish, and throw into my toaster over... depending on material, i pre heat it to - 100-150F and let it bake for a few hours, then i let it harden at room temp, and scrape.. it doesnt hurt to start off at a low temp, you really dont want to toast the shit quick, and you dont want to it become super runny, a lot of times, my stuff stays sticking to the side of my dish, and flat bottom has nothing... but like you said, its gonna leave a nice stink in the area.. so beware..
it should scrape pretty taffy like, thats one way i do it for shits and giggles, there is still soooo much tane in it, so you may want to stick with your current way without vac...
P.S. you really did trick me with your name, i came here to check you out and see all the nice vac purged material you had, and how you did it!! haaa. i hope you learn quick, order that ebay stuff right now! if it arrives this week, we can get you wax by the weekend!
especially with that material my friend.. i'll dedicate a thread to my process sometime soon here..
vacpurge
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I am very excited to try it your way tonight 
I am gonna stack about 10 filters into the honey bee extractor and see how that works.
heres what I just got up to. same as last night kinda... started with 100G of the shake, and some toys
before shaking, plus knocking the crystals outta the grinder... I dont think that the grinder hurts them that much. a new grinder might take some that you never get back. but mine is to used that it barely even catches any anymore. I give it a god brushing and am able to recover 97+% of it back.
after shaking it for about 1 minute:
after shaking 100G through. this is what I got in the lower chamber.... 1.8g
and this is what I got in the upper chamber 17.8g:
shook weed, and 2 stages of crystal (which I will probably just combine into 1)
went from 100g to this:
so 17.84g of crystal + 1.80g + 79.54 = 99.18g so I lost .8g somewhere along the line... I had 1 giant hoot of pure kief that was probably .5g... and if I really brushed out the box and grinder im sure I could get that .3g or so back pretty easily.
so as it stands, I pretty much have 20 grams of pure crystal/kief whatever you wanna call it. funny how its almost the exact same number as last nights honey oil production with 100 grams (19g honey oil)
soooo. I am thinking of maybe rinsing this crystal tonight in my small honey bee extractor... with 1 can. maybeee a 2nd can into a 2nd dish.
and I also plan on rinsing 25g (1/4 of last nights batch) with 10 coffee filters in my smaller extractor... I will probably use 2 cans.. maybe 3. I might even do it into seperate dishes too. I hope to get 5 grams from this.
my magic number seems to be 20% return... so thats what im aiming for.. except for the crystal THC... its hard to picture me getting 19g of oil from that. the weed doesnt look 100% cleaned either so I might re rinse that weed somehow.. not sure. any suggestions? I am guessing that I would be able to rinse maybe 4 or 5 more grams out of the weed that I shook in the screen box.
also. do you think that once your last can is rinsed through and youre done... it would be wise to take the weed in the extractor, and somehow squeeze it to get all the last juices and liquid butane outta there... maybe netting you another 2 or 3 free tokes worth of oil? I figure if I turned my extractor upside down, put a filter over where I normally insert the butane through, and squeeze the hell out of it from the threaded end... I can squeeze out those last few drops?... or is that all junk that im squeezing out?
tonight is gonna be fun.. ill have lots of pictures for you guys!
I am gonna stack about 10 filters into the honey bee extractor and see how that works.heres what I just got up to. same as last night kinda... started with 100G of the shake, and some toys
before shaking, plus knocking the crystals outta the grinder... I dont think that the grinder hurts them that much. a new grinder might take some that you never get back. but mine is to used that it barely even catches any anymore. I give it a god brushing and am able to recover 97+% of it back.
after shaking it for about 1 minute:
after shaking 100G through. this is what I got in the lower chamber.... 1.8g
and this is what I got in the upper chamber 17.8g:
shook weed, and 2 stages of crystal (which I will probably just combine into 1)
went from 100g to this:
so 17.84g of crystal + 1.80g + 79.54 = 99.18g so I lost .8g somewhere along the line... I had 1 giant hoot of pure kief that was probably .5g... and if I really brushed out the box and grinder im sure I could get that .3g or so back pretty easily.
so as it stands, I pretty much have 20 grams of pure crystal/kief whatever you wanna call it. funny how its almost the exact same number as last nights honey oil production with 100 grams (19g honey oil)
soooo. I am thinking of maybe rinsing this crystal tonight in my small honey bee extractor... with 1 can. maybeee a 2nd can into a 2nd dish.
and I also plan on rinsing 25g (1/4 of last nights batch) with 10 coffee filters in my smaller extractor... I will probably use 2 cans.. maybe 3. I might even do it into seperate dishes too. I hope to get 5 grams from this.
my magic number seems to be 20% return... so thats what im aiming for.. except for the crystal THC... its hard to picture me getting 19g of oil from that. the weed doesnt look 100% cleaned either so I might re rinse that weed somehow.. not sure. any suggestions? I am guessing that I would be able to rinse maybe 4 or 5 more grams out of the weed that I shook in the screen box.
also. do you think that once your last can is rinsed through and youre done... it would be wise to take the weed in the extractor, and somehow squeeze it to get all the last juices and liquid butane outta there... maybe netting you another 2 or 3 free tokes worth of oil? I figure if I turned my extractor upside down, put a filter over where I normally insert the butane through, and squeeze the hell out of it from the threaded end... I can squeeze out those last few drops?... or is that all junk that im squeezing out?
tonight is gonna be fun.. ill have lots of pictures for you guys!
vacpurge
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well.I tried it your way and still cant replicate what youre getting. I think the vac purge has a lot to do with it. but yours doesnt even look like oil anymore.
I put in roughly 25 grams. and ran 1 can through it, and used 8 filters. and this is what I got (its not fully purged yet, wanted to show a quick picture before supper)
I put in roughly 25 grams. and ran 1 can through it, and used 8 filters. and this is what I got (its not fully purged yet, wanted to show a quick picture before supper)
Guzias1
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i dont think you can get honeycomb without a vacuum source, just oil, but that could be whipped up on a dish over a ? heat and you could get some nice butter, way better than taffy, - or you can just stop now, and order the vacuum and chamber and hoses/gauges and what not, mr vacpurge
btw, how did 1 can work out for the 25 g in? did you have the 2nd dish to spray onto? see clear?????
i estimate 2.5-3 g out of that run. not badddddd for under an oz :]
and beautiful color!
p.s. get vac
btw, how did 1 can work out for the 25 g in? did you have the 2nd dish to spray onto? see clear?????
i estimate 2.5-3 g out of that run. not badddddd for under an oz :]
and beautiful color!
p.s. get vac
vacpurge
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yeah I think im gonna order the vac purge set up.
I didnt get a chance to weigh it... I started smoking it already!!! lol I couldnt wait. I am going to figure out the final numbers tonight. I still havnt rinsed that crystal yet
I would like a 20% return... so 5g at least out of last nights run would have been nice.
yes, I sprayed a 2nd can into a 2nd dish and it came out yellow. I didnt drain it into the main dish... I cooked them both off seperate so I have 2 grades of oil. 1st rinse and 2nd rinse although I dont think there is a noticeable difference between the two.
is your product similar to mine before you vacuum purge it?
I didnt get a chance to weigh it... I started smoking it already!!! lol I couldnt wait. I am going to figure out the final numbers tonight. I still havnt rinsed that crystal yet
I would like a 20% return... so 5g at least out of last nights run would have been nice.
yes, I sprayed a 2nd can into a 2nd dish and it came out yellow. I didnt drain it into the main dish... I cooked them both off seperate so I have 2 grades of oil. 1st rinse and 2nd rinse although I dont think there is a noticeable difference between the two.
is your product similar to mine before you vacuum purge it?
Guzias1
Well-Known Member
Mine looks exactly like it does on That razor blade when I scrape.. The I go straight to paper( no heat) then straight to vacuum( no heat) and i vacuum with no heat until we get all the room temperature moisture out.. All with 0 heat up until this point.. Then it's a slow process with heat and vac . Right now i have a product that i started off around 90 deg with, it oiled up, then i eventually got the heat of product to around 112, and it waxed up... I bumped up my temps to around 115-120(full vac) hoping to get any extra trapped take out... at this moment in my process, things get very tricky.. If i heat it up just a bit too much, my shit will lose its nice honeycomb texture, and goop down to oil... So it's very key to find out what temps your specific strand will take without melting. Im hoping i don't fuck up! this new stuff i gots i really like. Very gold, smells good, waxed up according to plan
vacpurge
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so how do you adjust your temperatures so finely?
I measured my water temp, as hot as our tap could get, and it was around 120F.... too hot?
what does your dessicator look like, and how many CFM is your pump? 1 stage or 2 stage?
how do you evaporate your butane with no heat? and how do you get it off the blade with no heat? I heat the back of the blade up with a lighter slightly, quick short sports with the lighter.. just heat up the blade and the big glob slides right off.
I really gotta build up the guts to bite the bullet and order that vac purge stuff. I am debating if that pump is overkill and if I can save 100$ and get a cheaper one. I really like that SS dessicator though.
on the plus side... ive used 100g to make oil with. 100g to remove the kief from.. and I just weighed out 200g to make bubble hash with later.... and I still somehow have 300-400g left!!!! I think my buddy somehow gave me 2lbs instead of just 1lb of shake because I sure got a lot leftover and have already used 400g lol!!!
I measured my water temp, as hot as our tap could get, and it was around 120F.... too hot?
what does your dessicator look like, and how many CFM is your pump? 1 stage or 2 stage?
how do you evaporate your butane with no heat? and how do you get it off the blade with no heat? I heat the back of the blade up with a lighter slightly, quick short sports with the lighter.. just heat up the blade and the big glob slides right off.
I really gotta build up the guts to bite the bullet and order that vac purge stuff. I am debating if that pump is overkill and if I can save 100$ and get a cheaper one. I really like that SS dessicator though.
on the plus side... ive used 100g to make oil with. 100g to remove the kief from.. and I just weighed out 200g to make bubble hash with later.... and I still somehow have 300-400g left!!!! I think my buddy somehow gave me 2lbs instead of just 1lb of shake because I sure got a lot leftover and have already used 400g lol!!!
Guzias1
Well-Known Member
ADjusting heat:
I use a an electric griddle to control my heat.
FIrst off..
After spraying into the dish, you let as much tane evaporate out..
then, you scrape it up, i use two blades(one is a utility knife blade, and other is an artists scraper tool..), one as my scooper, and one to scrape my scooper, no lighter, no flame of any sort, if i dont get %100 of the oil off my dish (which i never do) i throw the dish into oven, and bake it at 150 deg for 2 hrs.. then scrape off flake..
so, all the good oil is scraped up onto my parchment paper.
i then throw that into my vacuum, (still no heat what so ever) (room temps 60-70) at this point, the product is going to expand, probably 10-20 times it size as a flat oil, it puffs up into a ball ( good trim, not grinded is needed for this to happen) you need to have an appropriate sized vac chamber for depending on how big your pulls are..
(note: this step usually takes me about an hours time, and it also usually takes a good amount of full vac-to-let pressure back in -to- full -to-let pressure back in -to- full vac-to-let pressure back in -to- full vac-to-let pressure back in -to- full vac.. etc, no joke, so once you do this plenty of times, (@ room temp) your oil should now have turned into this puffed foam ball looking type of deal.. ..
I'll leave it at that for now, get a vacuum ! and i'll spill the next steps..
here is the exact vac i purchased off amazon..
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0017R95DI/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00
with
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001D003AS/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
I use a an electric griddle to control my heat.
FIrst off..
After spraying into the dish, you let as much tane evaporate out..
then, you scrape it up, i use two blades(one is a utility knife blade, and other is an artists scraper tool..), one as my scooper, and one to scrape my scooper, no lighter, no flame of any sort, if i dont get %100 of the oil off my dish (which i never do) i throw the dish into oven, and bake it at 150 deg for 2 hrs.. then scrape off flake..
so, all the good oil is scraped up onto my parchment paper.
i then throw that into my vacuum, (still no heat what so ever) (room temps 60-70) at this point, the product is going to expand, probably 10-20 times it size as a flat oil, it puffs up into a ball ( good trim, not grinded is needed for this to happen) you need to have an appropriate sized vac chamber for depending on how big your pulls are..
(note: this step usually takes me about an hours time, and it also usually takes a good amount of full vac-to-let pressure back in -to- full -to-let pressure back in -to- full vac-to-let pressure back in -to- full vac-to-let pressure back in -to- full vac.. etc, no joke, so once you do this plenty of times, (@ room temp) your oil should now have turned into this puffed foam ball looking type of deal.. ..
I'll leave it at that for now, get a vacuum ! and i'll spill the next steps..
here is the exact vac i purchased off amazon..
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0017R95DI/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00
with
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001D003AS/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
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vacpurge
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I just finished school last year... I am waiting to confirm that I have a nice job paying over 30$ an hour still.. once I get one which should be very soon, I am gonna order that nice desiccator, and that badass pump off ebay. its probably overkill,, but thats ok.
I am going to buy this desiccator.. and throw a thermometer in there. I am hoping that I can set it into a dish of hot water and heat enough while I purge.
how long does it take to pull a full vac?
and do I need that manifold set?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110997011004?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I am going to buy this desiccator.. and throw a thermometer in there. I am hoping that I can set it into a dish of hot water and heat enough while I purge.
how long does it take to pull a full vac?
and do I need that manifold set?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110997011004?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
vacpurge
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well, I got lucky and found a "vac it pro" name brand, looks better than the first one I was going to buy. I just sure hope he will ship to canada.
also, its a 3 gallon one... pretty big, but I plan on doing 10-20g of oil at a time and if it puffs up 10x bigger ill need the room.
now for a desiccator that big.. I am going to need a decent pump? I seem something like a 3 CFM pump will get it to 24-27hg of vacuum whereas a 5-7cfm pump will get 27-29 vacuum.
also, its a 3 gallon one... pretty big, but I plan on doing 10-20g of oil at a time and if it puffs up 10x bigger ill need the room.
now for a desiccator that big.. I am going to need a decent pump? I seem something like a 3 CFM pump will get it to 24-27hg of vacuum whereas a 5-7cfm pump will get 27-29 vacuum.
RobTheViking420
Member
I have a Tamisium TE175. It's a recirc extractor so no losing butane. You can get 2-3 zips in the chamber at a time. They do make bigger models but they do cost more.
The TE175 is about $1800. Chemicaly pure N-Butane can be found at Airgas, lighter fuel like Vector will work but it isn't pure butane so 100% recovery is not possible.
The TE175 is about $1800. Chemicaly pure N-Butane can be found at Airgas, lighter fuel like Vector will work but it isn't pure butane so 100% recovery is not possible.
Fadedawg
Well-Known Member
You can also build your own passive extractor, with the same capacity as the TE175 for under $500 in parts.
As RV noted, propane doesn't work in a passive extractor like the Tamisium or Lil Terp, so after loading it and freezing the tank to drop butane pressure to zero, you bleed it off.
On the other hand, because you are recycling the n-Butane, the added cost of instrument grade from Airgas or Matheson, is less of an issue and worth considering. We just paid $263 for 23 lbs.
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/passive-butane-extractor-and-reclaimer/
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Jeremy Sativa
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Guz.... Nice photos. You've got me a bit curious, mostly due to your practice that using buds from super strain plants. I've made honey oil from pure leaf ,stem,and low branch crap buds,ad I've had many many people tell me that my honey was stronger than anything they ever tried, and this comes from a brad range of 25-60 year olds. While you will definitely increase your yield using sugary buds, the difference is nominal. Compare that with the difference between smoking a leaf cig versus a sugary,prime nugget. In this case, the difference is extraordinary. It's huge.
My experience is that, when using only the leaf,stem,scrappy buds, the difference in honey oil is insignificant to the oil made from pure primo buds. Ya, sure, it is stronger, but is it worth the cost?
I can make 1oz of honey at a fraction of the cost using leaf,stem,etc, and still have all my sugar fill nuggets.
I'm guessing it takes you,at best, 7-10 ounces of buds to make 1 ounce of oil, and I bet the difference in THC from my oil and you oil is nominal, like 5-8% maximum. Unfortunately, your method also just consumed 1/2 lb or more of some primo buds .
Bro, I'm not knocking your preference r choice, just finally found someone that might have comparative data to discuss, and debate my position that all you need is the non-bud parts of the plant to produce a product with a THC content that's likely impossible to detect a difference in. Hit me back if you got some thoughts. Hoe I didn't completely misinterpret what you were saying above, much of which is good,factual info.
p.s. your correct about the length of pipe having effect on yield. I think the reasoning is pretty straight forward. A 16" pipe versus 10" pipe both having same diameter. The butane is forced to wash 6" more in the longer pipe. Also, short fat pipes are bad choice, since the liquified butane ,now liquid inside pipe, simply takes the path of least resistance until if falls out of the bottom. Your spot on in your observation here.
Peace
jeremy
My experience is that, when using only the leaf,stem,scrappy buds, the difference in honey oil is insignificant to the oil made from pure primo buds. Ya, sure, it is stronger, but is it worth the cost?
I can make 1oz of honey at a fraction of the cost using leaf,stem,etc, and still have all my sugar fill nuggets.
I'm guessing it takes you,at best, 7-10 ounces of buds to make 1 ounce of oil, and I bet the difference in THC from my oil and you oil is nominal, like 5-8% maximum. Unfortunately, your method also just consumed 1/2 lb or more of some primo buds .
Bro, I'm not knocking your preference r choice, just finally found someone that might have comparative data to discuss, and debate my position that all you need is the non-bud parts of the plant to produce a product with a THC content that's likely impossible to detect a difference in. Hit me back if you got some thoughts. Hoe I didn't completely misinterpret what you were saying above, much of which is good,factual info.
p.s. your correct about the length of pipe having effect on yield. I think the reasoning is pretty straight forward. A 16" pipe versus 10" pipe both having same diameter. The butane is forced to wash 6" more in the longer pipe. Also, short fat pipes are bad choice, since the liquified butane ,now liquid inside pipe, simply takes the path of least resistance until if falls out of the bottom. Your spot on in your observation here.
Peace
jeremy
650baquet
Active Member
I feel ya man, i think about that all the time, but my main reason for even making BHO was i thought it was a cleaner smoke as is; now i winterize and mmmm way way better and cleaner for my lungs. If i can get away with turning 80% of each of my plants to BHO...basically just saving a few large nugs and not run out of product before the next harvest, i'll do that. My grow isn't huge and i feed two mouths so sometimes i have to do whatever will last us until next harvest. So ya i basically make BHO out of all of my product, it does sucks when you don't get as much yield off trim as you do bud using the same amount of butane...but way better than buying it from the "dude down the road" who i don't trust anyways lol
If you prefer to vape or smoke nice quality nug then i would suggest sticking to just making BHO runs of your trim man
good shit still! But maybe spoil yourself a bit once in a while and winterize some nice bud extract.hiceratops
New Member
Hello Guzias1,
How are you purging once you extract? Could you explain what you with your pyrex after the spray?
Thanks,
Hiceratops
How are you purging once you extract? Could you explain what you with your pyrex after the spray?
Thanks,
Hiceratops
Guzias1
Well-Known Member
Hey Jeremy, thanks for the input.
I make hash with what ever i get.
In the last 1 year, I have been fortunate enough to have all my input material gifted to me.
A little over a year ago, i was gifted about 2 lbs of decent oldddd trim.
My intentions were to just make lots of edibles.. well, those got a bit repetitive!
So, i looked into bho.. The house i was living at already had a home made POS honey tube laying around, as well as some really terrible butane..
pretty much all i needed! i've come a longgg way since then..
My practices have luckily impressed some heads, which has led me to blast batches ranging from trim, to nugs..
Here is my input on running trim compared to nugs. -RUN TRIM IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT, trim is already prepared most of the time to stuff into the tube. nugs need to be prepared, and that is a sad process a lot of times
whether extracting from trim, nugs kief, what evs, we are using apolar solvent (butane) to pick up trichomes,.. I believe the high you get should be pretty consistently similar, as well as the color of oil.. trim many times receives more sun light rather than the internal bud, so you could potentially have more mature trichomes on the leaf, rather than buds, which i believe gives you a more "couch lock" type of high..
here is my first hand experience with trim / nug, same harvest
i recently purchased 3 lbs of trim/nugs (first purchase ever!)
I separated nugs from trim
nugs(A) produced a lighter extract, and yielded pretty much identical weight to the trim(B).
ALSO, nugs produced a less softer/sticker end result..
dunno if you guys have seen my baby, but she sure do make life better :]
seems like I'm always picking up a new trick, which is wonderful ..
yo, check it out!
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