Best Grow Room design for 288 sq. ft.

Hey everyone! Its been a while since I've been on rollitup (I've been constructing the means for my grow room lol).... Alright heres what I have... I have a 12'x12' shed with a second floor of the same size... So thats two 12'x12' floors. I really want to use the SOG method to produce a consant harvent (hopefully every two weeks). The problem is am I am up in the air about how to design this? I know I will need approx. 4 rooms for the flowing phase. Basically I want to maxamize my yeild... The first floor must also leave some room in it where i can build a small wall to keep peeping eyes out of the way lol. The shed is A/c and has heat and electricity. All I need to know is what the best design would be for this method... Thanks!

i was thinking why dont u just do one floor veg and one floor flowering. that would be crazy. good luck man u gonna be one lucky(and rich) dude

Have you thought about electricity? A grow of this size will require an amount of light that will make your bill bounce suspiciously. Power companies are instructed to inform the authorities of any suspicious activity and this is a common way that home growers are caught.

Granted, most of them caught because of a bounce in the bill are growing to sell, so...

I think you should make a room in the bottom for vegging. You should get some good seeds or good clones and just maintain a few mother plants to clone from. This way only a small portion of your grow will require 24/0 light.

The rest of the bottom floor and the top floor should be for flowering. Since this only requires 12/12 you don't have to worry as much about masking the light. Also, in most cases, for clones especially, you will be flowering much longer than vegging.

Here is a potential design:

Top Floor:


With this design on the top floor you have one 400w HPS covering 36 square feet. That's only 1388 lumens/square foot, but I think if you just maintain a height of 1 foot from plants and only put as many under each HPS as you think it can sustain, then you will be fine. Of course more walls means you will need more reflective mylar, but in my opinion, making everything reflective is the easiest and cheapest thing you can do to maximize light.


Bottom Floor:


Anyway, hope this helps. Good Luck!

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I think you should make a room in the bottom for vegging. You should get some good seeds or good clones and just maintain a few mother plants to clone from. This way only a small portion of your grow will require 24/0 light.

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Sorry, this doesn't make sense. Why would you have the lights on the longest in the area more people would be likely to see?

The rest of the bottom floor and the top floor should be for flowering. Since this only requires 12/12 you don't have to worry as much about masking the light. Also, in most cases, for clones especially, you will be flowering much longer than vegging.

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If it were me I would probably start developing the vegging/ cloning area on the second floor. Its easier to mask the light (most of the time). If you check out Al B Fucts "How to get a harvest every two weeks" you will see a system set up in less than 1/2 the space your talking about that has around 80 flowering plants at any given time. Thats plenty for new grower to 'start' working with.

the top floor you have one 400w HPS covering 36 square feet. That's only 1388 lumens/square foot, but I think if you just maintain a height of 1 foot from plants and only put as many under each HPS as you think it can sustain, then you will be fine. Of course more walls means you will need more reflective mylar, but in my opinion, making everything reflective is the easiest and cheapest thing you can do to maximize light.

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This doesn't make any sense. A 400 watt light will put out about 43000 lumens. A 600 watt light will put out 95000 lumens. 50% more power used, 100% more light. Why would you recommend using the smaller light and then putting in less plants so you can still get a decent grow. Using a 400 watt light you would be able to put 12 plants in a 3' by 4' area. With a 600 watt you should be able to put 20. If your yeild/ plant stay the same your harvest would be 66% more using 50% more energy. The cheapest and easiest way you can share light is to not have walls between your tables. then your light will just spill over to the next table. And you only need reflective material on the outside walls.
In addition to the light masking issue it will put you closer to the attic or roof so you can set up a good ventilation system. The draw back would be setting up your water lines abd sewer line, but if you are going to use both areas, yo will have to do this anyway. VV

First, I was thinking that the lights would be easier to see in the upstairs of the building. It's higher up and easier to see from farther away.

Second, the OP and I have revised the plan outside of rollitup and have decided that the best setup would be 4 1000w HPS on the top floor to flower.

I don't know what you are saying about the space, because plants need a certain amount of room just to be. The best setup is to have a small vegging area with mothers to take clones from every two weeks.

Since the setup will be with 4 1000w hps systems, you got each one covering 6' x 6' area, which is a good space for each one to cover.

Here is a drawing of the proposed setup, however instead of 25 clones each round it has been changed to 20. The OP found an automatic watering system that will feed up to 20 plants at a time, and 20 plants in a 6'x6' area is tight anyway.

The idea was to put one wall in the middle, simply to maximize reflectiveness. This way there won't be a dead spot of less light in the middle of the 4 lights.

na dude you cant have 4 1000 watt hps in that amount of room without good ventilation plus thats alot of energy. i would go with two 1000 watt hps and a 600 watt metal halide for the veg room. make a small area cut of from the metal halide light for clones. clones are a good way of getting acouple ounces every month if done right. 600 watt light would be for vegging mothers and clones when rooted. clones are really sensitive if put under too much light. use a t-5 for clones. much better t-12. more light output and small energy usage.

FirstTimeGrow said:

Have you thought about electricity? A grow of this size will require an amount of light that will make your bill bounce suspiciously. Power companies are instructed to inform the authorities of any suspicious activity and this is a common way that home growers are caught.

Granted, most of them caught because of a bounce in the bill are growing to sell, so...

I think you should make a room in the bottom for vegging. You should get some good seeds or good clones and just maintain a few mother plants to clone from. This way only a small portion of your grow will require 24/0 light.

The rest of the bottom floor and the top floor should be for flowering. Since this only requires 12/12 you don't have to worry as much about masking the light. Also, in most cases, for clones especially, you will be flowering much longer than vegging.

Here is a potential design:

Top Floor:


With this design on the top floor you have one 400w HPS covering 36 square feet. That's only 1388 lumens/square foot, but I think if you just maintain a height of 1 foot from plants and only put as many under each HPS as you think it can sustain, then you will be fine. Of course more walls means you will need more reflective mylar, but in my opinion, making everything reflective is the easiest and cheapest thing you can do to maximize light.


Bottom Floor:


Anyway, hope this helps. Good Luck!

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I know this thread is old but I dont want people out there tryin to learn to come across this and get mislead.
First of all 4-8 1000 watt lights is gonna pull a good amount of power but it really isnt that much. Most of us live alone or with 1 or 2 other people. Think about 5 or 6 person families and how much power they all use every month.
2nd power companies DO NOT monitor power consumption! They have hundreds of thousands if not millions of customers! It would cost a fortune to hire enough people to monitor all those accounts. And for what... to help the police bust their best customers???? If you owned a power company you would cherish every grower that used your juice! The more power we use the more money they make!
The police need a warrant to subpeona power records from the electric company. In order to even want those records in the first place the cops wouldve had to already been suspicous. I have heard of meter readers that tip off cops to high power consumption but they can also be fired real quick for this because of privacy laws so thats rare. Now in some areas power records are public record but again they wouldve already been suspicous to be lookin in the first place. In reality high power usage is not anywhere near enough to even attempt to get a search warrant.
Now Ill let everybody in on a big grower secret and my reason for even writing all this crap! The number one reason that growers get busted, 99% of the time is a SNITCH! If you dont wanna get caught dont tell anyone!!!! You need 1 partner you can trust with your life and even that is risky but a growers mouth is what gets them busted almost every time! I know lots of growers and several that have been busted and only one of them didnt get caught because of a snitch... A water line broke in his condo and the landlord came in to fix it and found his grow!
So the moral of the story is...
KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!

We all wanna show of our beautiful ladies but thats what RIU is for! Follow this one rule and take the regular security precautions (smell, light leaks, etc) and your chances of being a successful and free grower will be very good!

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Chief greenleaf I'm glad you posted. I know how electric consumption can be sketchy for first time growers. I know quite a few people that have astronomical electric bills and they don't grow. Like you said, as long as the power company gets their payment on time, they're not going to red flag paying customers. Happy growing!