Best fix for plant too tall.....

My plant has grown way taller than expected touching 4 1/2 feet. So I took advice of many sources and found out about HST or super cropping and boy does it work. I crushed the stem of the top cola plus 5 others then bent them over at 90 degrees, so I now have 11 buds all at the same distance from my light source and the bottom branches look much healthier than before, chasing the tops very quickly. It has also encouraged her into flower which is the icing on the cake. My girl is 6 weeks into 12/12 and this has done nothing but good up to now.

Love to see 'em.

It's all about the auxins. Keep 'em confused and not knowing who the boss bud is.

Rob Roy said:

It's all about the auxins. Keep 'em confused and not knowing who the boss bud is.

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Perfectly said...I know your doing the super crop and training because it got to big in the flower, but for next time around its best to do it before flower hits as opposed to doing it during flower, can harm yield and leave opening for pest and fungal attacks which damage the plant far more in flower (and is much harder to take care of)

There will come a day when you super crop and the whole top comes off in your hand I've only had it happen once and believe it or not, I used electrical tape and grafted it right back to where I took it. It kept on trucking!

Hmmmm... I hate to sound like such a contrarian, but this IS the vertical growing forum, and I've found that the only topping I want to do is when the plant runs off the top or sides of my 4' wide x 6' tall trellis. Until then, I don't want to inhibit its growth at all, I want it to fill that trellis in as much as possible!

Only once it's overgrown does the plant need to be thinned. Keep in mind that I'm growing plants every inch of 6' tall in my Super Silo...

yup.. I find it happens when or if I try & train a plant that I have yet to sit in front of a fan. as you know that wind helps these bitches get nice and strong stalks.

supchaka said:

There will come a day when you super crop and the whole top comes off in your hand I've only had it happen once and believe it or not, I used electrical tape and grafted it right back to where I took it. It kept on trucking!

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It's really different how they respond to super cropping. I've done it this grow to around 20 plants (including clones), some of them responds really well and the side stems will start growing like crazy, while on others it's like it's really determined to have a main stem and that it can't be "tricked" to get bushy, i even tried crushing the stem several times, with a week or so of "rest" for the plant..

Update on how its going plus pics

Since supercropping she has continued to grow at a rate of about 2cm per day without stop. The outer branches are now over 4 foot on their own. I had to lollipop as she had taken over the whole tent leaving the lower leaves to become light starved. I cloned 1 of the 14 chopped " I know criminal but space is premium and left me no choice". So the plant grew like jack's beanstalk and every week since i've had to adjust her to accomodate the house. LST is the only way now! with that i've grown the top cola in a 360 deg and now training to go down. The rest i've held against the rear of the tent and the buds have been brought forward to give maximum light.

Its now 10 weeks of grow time in 12/12 does anyone have any guess how long I may be waiting till finish?

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What strain it maybe? I have had leaves that are 11 point Sativa's but there is a few very indica looking leaves spread about. Grow time obviously very slow so am unsure.....



Am replies will be gratefully appreciated.......

forgot to say i think she is about 7 foot now from root to tip so rules out indica.....lol...

For 10 weeks of 12/12 something is definitely wrong. It has the look of a plant still vegging or maybe only a week into 12/12. At 10 weeks regardless of strain you should have some very definite buds. Either a major light leak, a broken timer or a crap load of nitrogen although I'd rule out the last one.

No light leak tent sealed like a submarine. Timer never misses a beat so can't be that, and for nutes am using at 80-90% strength at 6ph. I have read a lot about sats and am gonna guess maybe another 4-6 weeks till am in the butter zones. Fingers crossed any other guesses?

Man, I would highly recommend going in the tent sealed up 100% with the lights off to make sure (If you haven't already) like chaka said, probably a light leak

As posted sealed up tight. She does have tonnes of bud sites all over some 2 inches long and look like there getting ready. Pics don't really show to well, not sure really just keep going I guess I reckon growing down to fill lower areas if she keeps going, will allow me lots more growth room. But as for the extra long flowering period am stumped, guess genetics has a lot to answers for. If anyone in this vast world of peeps has any ideas on what could be going on am all ears.....

Not trying to sound like a dick, but out of all of those pictures i didnt see one bud site. There isn't a strain out there that wouldn't have fat buds after 10 weeks of flowering. Either your plants are broke, or you're doing it wrong. You aren't supposed to train a plant after the 3rd week of flower, it can seriously stress your plants.

TheyCallMe2K said:

Not trying to sound like a dick, but out of all of those pictures i didnt see one bud site. There isn't a strain out there that wouldn't have fat buds after 10 weeks of flowering. Either your plants are broke, or you're doing it wrong. You aren't supposed to train a plant after the 3rd week of flower, it can seriously stress your plants.

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If I could of not stressed the plant of course I would of, but it's chop her down or keep on trucking. I reckon the training has probably caused the slower growth but what can I do? And the sites are a plenty aka small stalks growing from where the buds will form when they do.

When plants start flowering they stop putting out new vegetative growth. There is a lot of new looking light green leaves on there and no buds. Even long flowering sativas have significant bud development by that point. Looks like either weird genetics or something is off with the light cycle.

I am going to have to agree with the rest of them, something is wrong

I'd love that to be true so here is what I,ve done since the beginning to help the quest:

Seedling grown unknown seed from Nimbin Australia. Very good quality mother who was seeded to give hippy stone. Very couch locking with a nice mild visual from what I remember.

18/06 for first 3 weeks plant showed female signs so I switched 12/12 and have been since. And the grow began as I say 2-3 cm daily for weeks, till she hit what I now guess is 7 foot high and when spread out, not tied as in the photo she is 5 ft wide and has a 2" trunk.

At week 6 she hit 5 ft so I super cropped lots of top stems but they went wild and grew back with vengeance. So the lowers lost light and began to struggle so I lollypop'd the bottom branches. Again this had no effect on health the plant just grew more. So I have had to LST the top cola and start a downward grow, I know this is bad but it's either that or kill her.

Nutes, she's had coco a and b since the start at a 80-90% strength and only suffered nute burn in the first week, but it soon cleared and I got it right. Watering is easy as the plant is in a washing up bowl bubbler with tonnes of roots in the solution giving any things she wants. Like 3 ltrs every 2 days, giving very green foliage and lots of stems totally full of green leaves of all sizes from 5 - 11 stars.

From location I can only guess maybe a south East Asian strain but I have no clue really.

My best guess is that the plant is nails and refuses to stop with the auxins she is constantly being given from the stress. Meaning slow flowering time. I,ve read about sativa strains from s.e.a that can take up to 25 weeks to finish and some never finishing.

Any thoughts?

Man I have 2 plants in week 10 right now. 1 3 weeks or so from harvest the other 1-2 weeks with no nutes and I have close to 2 oz a pc. on them. I've never heard of a bud not seen 10 weeks into flowering without some sort of light getting in. I'm curious as to what it is myself keep running post til done. Personally and i hate to beat a dead horse but I'd heavily check the the lights during the off time for ANY light coming in.