Best chemdawg/dog seeds?

kgp

kgp

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Jogro said:
You "reverse" it with colloidal silver, or a different chemical agent, forcing it to make male flowers, which you can then use to pollinate itself or a clone to make ceeds.

Ceeds made this way would be properly termed "S1" ceeds, (not F1 or F2), and they might be expected to put out a lot of different phenos.

If you wanted to create a "stable" Chemdog in ceed form, you'd have to do what thecoolman said, and outcross your "clone only" to some other lines male, then either inbreed that, selecting for traits like the original, or backcross it back to the original first then do your selection. (IMO "cubing", ie repeated backcrossing, is a waste of time).

Either way, you'll inevitably end up with something a little different than the original, but if you do your selections right, you may be able to capture most of the traits that make it interesting/special into something stable.
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But he said male, not a hermi. You can get male pollen, but not an actual male.

ChemDawg already a hemi prone plant, made to herm, to b self pollinate screams transvestite.
 
OneStonedPony

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beepbopcharlie said:
thecoolman said:
Just started a pack of ISP chemdog BX3, high ratio of males to females, and the plant structure does not look promising in 2nd week of flower. I wouldn't bother with this one. Wish i had read this blog before I shelled out the 75.
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Hell, I grew out a pack of ISP's Chem D Bx3 last year, got 6 ladies out of 10 seeds. Was going to keep moms of 2 of them, and they started replacing ductwork, upgrading the electrical, and painting the apartments I lived in. I was pissed, that I had to tear down my tent 8.5 weeks into flower, but that still came out Dank as Hell ! I puked after hitting the first bowl, and was so high I had a panic attack. Sweated like a whore in church to. The next day, I hit a tiny pinch in a vap, and it was all good. No doubt it's got the true Chem potenty. I'll have to restart from seed here soon, and can't wait to hit that shit again.

I've seen threads on NWGT and Breedbay, and people there got more ladies than males also. Maybe your soil was lacking or your environment was off. It's always easy to blame the breeders when you mess up. I think most folks realize even though it's a weed, some skills are necessary to grow it right. Not meaning to insult you, just saying, your results aren't typical from my experience, and from what I have seen.
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Jogro

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kgp said:
But he said male, not a hermi. You can get male pollen, but not an actual male.
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For practical purposes, male pollen from a female plant is functionally identical to male pollen from a male plant.

If the line is hermie-prone, its hermie-prone. Whether or not you get your male pollen from a genetically male or female plant isn't going to change that.
 
dr.tree

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I had a "clone only" chem dawg I don't know what one I got it and a snow dawg clone. I still have the snow dawg it's mine blowing the chem was fucked up you would smoke it and not really feel high so take a few more pulls then it kicks in very upper high it's like the meth of pot everyone hated it. Your heart rate would sore it would give me chest pains. Clear head but freaking out. Not very dense. Ok at best yield looked huge but just shrunk a ton way frosty and overwhelming smell. The snow dawg is by far the best I've ever had
 
kgp

kgp

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Jogro said:
For practical purposes, male pollen from a female plant is functionally identical to male pollen from a male plant.

If the line is hermie-prone, its hermie-prone. Whether or not you get your male pollen from a genetically male or female plant isn't going to change that.
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For practical purposes like breeding, (im not sure what other practicle reasons one would want male pollen) they are very different. If the plant hermed with little to no stress its probably not a good idea to use the pollen for breeding.
 
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dr.tree said:
I had a "clone only" chem dawg I don't know what one I got it and a snow dawg clone. I still have the snow dawg it's mine blowing the chem was fucked up you would smoke it and not really feel high so take a few more pulls then it kicks in very upper high it's like the meth of pot everyone hated it. Your heart rate would sore it would give me chest pains. Clear head but freaking out. Not very dense. Ok at best yield looked huge but just shrunk a ton way frosty and overwhelming smell. The snow dawg is by far the best I've ever had
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Ughh...if that is your experience with "chem dawg," you owe it to yourself to give it another try because you were growing a fraud.

Chem #4 has a really smooth chem taste with very light hints of of lime/lemon and fuel. It tastes like nothing else on earth. The high is very balanced and should be pretty fast coming, not the most potent ever but far from a lightweight smoke.

I've been trying to figure out who has the closest representation of chem 4 in seed and I'm leaning TCC's boss hogg, despite all the TCC hate and simple fact I can't find complete grow & smoke reports. I'd personally try to stay away from Chem D or anything too fruity (ie. lemon). Any sweet flavors should be in the lemon/lime sour tart spectrum. "Chem" dominating flavor is a must. I'm guessing the original chemdog was along the lines of (landrace sativa x middle eastern kush) x skunk. I'm pretty sure ocean grown kush and sour diesel are both off shoots of the original chemdog.
 
brek

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think chem4 may be my favorite smoke so far. Had the clone only in socal. Now i'm in norcal without any clone connects (however since I went to seed I have had no pests, mildews etc.) Looking for a good representation of chem4 in seed. Don't anyone dare say cali conman. :)
 
Rev.thenatural

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Better pics as they grow, however this is Thelma x oaxacan. Well tell us rev, lol. Thelma mom was a huge eastern purple, when growing thelma , right next to the chemdawg 91, we realized, lol, this is it, the very thing that the mysterious chemdawg 91 was bred too using an afghan lol. Why should we believe that rev, lol. Not saying you should...but we know,lol. Thelma and Chloe the chemdawg were nearly identical in everything they did..everything. You could hardly tell them apart except that darn bit of afghan in the chem, lol. Eastern purples, can almost compete with Oaxaca's in terms of aggressive growth. Lowland ox is the true beast and what any good breeding project needs...true Christmas trees from " the place of the seed " that's what Oaxaca means for the juage tree. Breeding our oaxacan male " big ox " to Thelma we knew would create giant purple beasts of 100% pure Sativa's and a future project with the big Dogg " ox x chem 91 " could create the largest hybrid ever and probably no indica effects to be found for sure from the chem side by then. Gotta keep count and we do, but it took every strategy I've learned and listening to my guides to do technically nine strains last year so now time to grow em...thanks father!IMG_20150704_110002053.jpg
 
shorelineOG

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smokajoe said:
So Riu who has the best chem seeds?
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A few years ago I bought deadhead og seeds from Cali connection. Very good strain for a chemdawg 4 cross and I had some very nice deadhead males. The chemdawg and deadhead strains are excellent for breeding. Anyone can create a winner with those genetics. Also check out the alien crosses from og raskal.
 
shorelineOG

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Rev.thenatural said:
Better pics as they grow, however this is Thelma x oaxacan. Well tell us rev, lol. Thelma mom was a huge eastern purple, when growing thelma , right next to the chemdawg 91, we realized, lol, this is it, the very thing that the mysterious chemdawg 91 was bred too using an afghan lol. Why should we believe that rev, lol. Not saying you should...but we know,lol. Thelma and Chloe the chemdawg were nearly identical in everything they did..everything. You could hardly tell them apart except that darn bit of afghan in the chem, lol. Eastern purples, can almost compete with Oaxaca's in terms of aggressive growth. Lowland ox is the true beast and what any good breeding project needs...true Christmas trees from " the place of the seed " that's what Oaxaca means for the juage tree. Breeding our oaxacan male " big ox " to Thelma we knew would create giant purple beasts of 100% pure Sativa's and a future project with the big Dogg " ox x chem 91 " could create the largest hybrid ever and probably no indica effects to be found for sure from the chem side by then. Gotta keep count and we do, but it took every strategy I've learned and listening to my guides to do technically nine strains last year so now time to grow em...thanks father!View attachment 3454025
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I am a collector of Mexican genetics and grew up smoking the "lime green". I love chemdawg 4 and crossed my deadhead og male to a purple Mexican, lime green tall Christmas tree Mexican and a broad leaf Mexicana. Something to be said about the big leaf landrace Mexicans, the small trichomes and sticky bud. Good mexican will make you laugh hysterically, your ears get warm, creativity and munchies.
 
Cold$moke

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shorelineOG said:
I am a collector of Mexican genetics and grew up smoking the "lime green". I love chemdawg 4 and crossed my deadhead og male to a purple Mexican, lime green tall Christmas tree Mexican and a broad leaf Mexicana. Something to be said about the big leaf landrace Mexicans, the small trichomes and sticky bud. Good mexican will make you laugh hysterically, your ears get warm, creativity and munchies.
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What about Chinese eyed? I'm looking for that effect
You know your brain still functions but your eyes are slits and everything is funny ....still searching :)
 
shorelineOG

shorelineOG

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Yes, very red eyes, where they almost feel like something is in your eyes. Also very bad dry mouth and sometimes an aphrodisiac effect. The good Mexican has a creeper effect and you are high all day. I would smoke the Mexican creeper before school and it wouldn't peak for an hour and you stayed high, not this thirty minute buzz. It makes you laugh and trip but too much causes scary paranoia. When the joint is half way done the paper is clear with resin and your fingers have tar on them. Also causes serious dejavu.
 
Rev.thenatural

Rev.thenatural

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shorelineOG said:
Yes, very red eyes, where they almost feel like something is in your eyes. Also very bad dry mouth and sometimes an aphrodisiac effect. The good Mexican has a creeper effect and you are high all day. I would smoke the Mexican creeper before school and it wouldn't peak for an hour and you stayed high, not this thirty minute buzz. It makes you laugh and trip but too much causes scary paranoia. When the joint is half way done the paper is clear with resin and your fingers have tar on them. Also causes serious dejavu.
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Sounds like a man from my own heart.

As I've told them, been here out west nearly two years and have smoked what they call the best, even grown organic out in the sun.

God told me too bring my own beans and try to educate...not easy.

I'm a medical patient and cancer and other multiple disease fighting machine by gods teachings and pure Mexicans.

Nothing out here even comes close, perhaps brothers and sisters like ourselves with these rare beans can help them by trying to breed some here and there.

I've been lucky and blessed to aquire what I have and find actually pairs. I have a keen eye with Mexican beauties and it still took two years to just find 4 pairs of male and female pure landrace that actually really are pure pairs.

Working on others, however right now we have pairs of Acapulco gold, chuahuan, Zacatecas and Jalisco that will make your wife run from you lol.

The Acapulco golds and tai are the most mind ripping of them all.

Most have never seen or tried a really real one in decades.

Here is a quick pic of a pure Acapulco flowering now. From seeds 45 years old.

Had maybe 350 of these and wound up with 14 out of over 200 seeds tried that wouldn't germ.

14 did germ baby! Now we have the two pick females being primed for their dusting with neo the pick male in the weeks too come.

Keeping fingers crossed and we try to hold off pollinating to about the 9-10th week as you get good bud also and we over ripen for cannabinoids and proper healing, so works great.

Blessings, rev.thenaturalIMG_20160104_081244216.jpg
 
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