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MsBBB
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I think that my girls are showing some pre-sex and they "might" be female. I would like to take about 2-4 clones from each of them to thin them out a bit. Will this stress them enough this close to flowering to hermie them? Is it safe, I plan to veg 2-3 weeks more after taking the clones before starting the flowering light cycle of 12/12? Thanks
medicalmaryjane
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Do you have to change the light to get flowers? I am new to this and I have my first plant growing. It is showing signs of being female but it could be male or hermie a guess. It is a sativa and it doesn't look lush or bushy at all compared to some of the pics I've seen, it's only about 2.5 feet tall. I haven't taken good care of it and it's probably starving for food, I got some and fed it today.
Is my plant hopeless or can it be saved?
How tall can I except this plant to get before it flowers?
Will it flower even if I don't change the light?
thanks for any help you can provide.
I forgot to mention, I am growing outdoors in a pot. It doesn't get the most sun. I started the plant a few months ago. I know it's been a long time, I actually would have expected it to have died by now. I had 3 and 2 died.
Is my plant hopeless or can it be saved?
How tall can I except this plant to get before it flowers?
Will it flower even if I don't change the light?
thanks for any help you can provide.
I forgot to mention, I am growing outdoors in a pot. It doesn't get the most sun. I started the plant a few months ago. I know it's been a long time, I actually would have expected it to have died by now. I had 3 and 2 died.
aeviaanah
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If you describe what you are seeing we might be able to save some time as it could still possibly be a male. Go take a look at this thread i started...I think that my girls are showing some pre-sex and they "might" be female. I would like to take about 2-4 clones from each of them to thin them out a bit. Will this stress them enough this close to flowering to hermie them? Is it safe, I plan to veg 2-3 weeks more after taking the clones before starting the flowering light cycle of 12/12? Thanks
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/383537-sex-how-determine-early-stage.html#post4888673
As for the cloning go ahead and take some clones you still have plently of time before flower. ive never experienced a hermie in flower because of trimming or cleaning up. Most of the time it will be light leak, or vast changes in environment.
aeviaanah
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Yes marijuana is photosensitive meaning the amount of light it receives will change 'what the plant is doing'. In nature the seed sprouts in spring, grows in summer and begins to bud as the days begin to shorten. Light begins to decrease as winter comes along and the plant pushes energy to the buds and they begin to swell. The plant dies. Its whole purpose for making bud is to breed and carry on through the offspring. There are plenty of good reads around to learn the basics. Here is a website that has lots of free books you can read. They come in pdf format.
http://www.pencilmethod.com/books/
13 hours of light or more = VEG
12 hours of light or less = FLOWER
When indoors a recommended veg cycle would actually be more than 13 hours because it is so close to 12. A light cycle of 18/6 would make more sense. 18= on time, 6= off time. The plant is vegging.
If your plant is 2.5 feet tall, it should be showing sex. If you are in southern california your plants should be trying to bud right now. Most growers are indoors right now as weather and lighting does not permit growth. People harvest around Late aug -early november. There is not much light to make good buds and with it being so cold, growth is slow. Height is irrelevant to flowers, it is only photo period...but keep in mind a plant will have to reach a certain age to begin to flower. When pre flowers appear, they are sexually mature. 2.5 ft is well over sexual maturity. Possibly you have a male? Can you snap a picture?
An idea... if plant size doesnt matter, let that baby stay alive till spring, she will come out of flower and begin new growth. She will thrive for the summer months and be huge by harvest! Check out the link i posted for Msbb.
medicalmaryjane
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Thanks for the info. I will check out that link you suggested.
I have seen some hairs on my plant but I don't know 100% that it's a she.
These are the only pics I have. I don't have a great camera. I really can't have a huge plant inside. I would like to let it get a bit larger before allowing it to flower. I think it is wanting to flower because the top is starting to show a lot of white hairs.
The leaves on the bottom are starting to yellow. The guy at the shop said that the plant is probably using those leaves to produce enegry for the flowers and that they may die off. I gave it food for the first time yesterday. The soil is already dry. What should I do? I brought it inside last night so it wasn't in the dark/cold too many hours.
the plant has been growing for a few months.
medicalmaryjane
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are my options:
bring it inside every night and let it grow until i decide it is time to flower (either spring or fall)
or
allow it to flower now but only get a very small amount of bud because it's a small plant
what about making a clone and replanting that? Can i make a clone without buying any stuff?
bring it inside every night and let it grow until i decide it is time to flower (either spring or fall)
or
allow it to flower now but only get a very small amount of bud because it's a small plant
what about making a clone and replanting that? Can i make a clone without buying any stuff?
aeviaanah
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Your welcome bro, here is an image...i drew an arrow showing how i know it is female. congrats!
If the leaves are starting to yellow this means she is hungry...good thing you fed her. What brand nutrients did you buy? NPK?
Reading the plant is the best way to know when to feed and what to feed. It takes some time to learn this tho.
You will be dissapointed if you let it continue to flower....which it will with this amount of light. There is small amounts of light which will tell it to flower but not enough light to make good flowers....know what i mean? You could clone it but you will need a cloning medium for best success. Rockwool, grow plugs, etc. Cloning powder or gel will also increase results. You can clone in a small pot of soil, just use a plastic bag over the plant to keep humidity up. Fresh air and humidity are both important to successful cloning. Now you know its a female, it wouldnt be a bad idea.
If you are outside, you do not decide when it is time to flower. The time of year does. Spring= veg, summer= aggressive veg, fall = harvest. Keeping her outside till then she will likely come close to the end of her life cycle. It will be quiet stressful to go from late flower to veg but it is possible.
I recommend keeping her inside with a small light...enough to keep her from flowering. Put her outside when weather permits...after spring equinox. For the mean time you can get in control of feeding and stock up on reqd nutrients for flower. Id also advise beginning to train her. Look into Low stress training.
medicalmaryjane
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Thanks for your help!! I am a girl btw.
I got this food called CNS17 have you heard of it? Can you recommend something better for my situation?
I am not sure the people at the store understood the situation because I told them it was growing outside but they think I just planted it and I was trying to explain that i've been growing it for a while. They kept saying it wouldn't be ready to harvest until oct...
they also gave me something called super drop and atomic wall and some kind of flush. He explained how to use these but I am such a newb that it was in one ear out the other.
Id really like to start a mini farm up on my roof but I need to get a ladder and more supplies.
Is now the right time to cut a clone? I can go back to the shop and get cloning powder.
I got this food called CNS17 have you heard of it? Can you recommend something better for my situation?
I am not sure the people at the store understood the situation because I told them it was growing outside but they think I just planted it and I was trying to explain that i've been growing it for a while. They kept saying it wouldn't be ready to harvest until oct...
they also gave me something called super drop and atomic wall and some kind of flush. He explained how to use these but I am such a newb that it was in one ear out the other.
Id really like to start a mini farm up on my roof but I need to get a ladder and more supplies.
Is now the right time to cut a clone? I can go back to the shop and get cloning powder.
medicalmaryjane
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I also notice that my soil is very packed and dry. How often should I be watering her? I am notorious for overwatering and she seemed to be doing well on her own when I didn't do anything. I am worried I will kill her by being neurotic. I need some low stress training for myself.
The cotyledons on some of my 2.5 week old seedlings have turned completely yellow and in some cases brown.
I haven't been feeding them, but I have been watering with tap water with an approximate pH of 7.5. Could the hard water be doing this? Or the incorrect pH? Or could it be overwatering?
I have recently fixed all those problems, but I just want to figure out what caused the problem in the first place.
I haven't been feeding them, but I have been watering with tap water with an approximate pH of 7.5. Could the hard water be doing this? Or the incorrect pH? Or could it be overwatering?
I have recently fixed all those problems, but I just want to figure out what caused the problem in the first place.
TokeSmoker420
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I got two questions
1. When pollenating, and the seeds are developing, how long does the seed take to fully mature after the pistils have fully withdrawn into the calyx
2. This is the first time i tried water in a cup germ method, my seeds cracked their root while submerged in water, im guessing for ~ 6hours. they havent popped after 2 days in soil 1/2-1cm deep. with a cfl warming up the soil. and humidity dome. any ideas? Last one that cracked in water made no progress on roots at all afterward.
1. When pollenating, and the seeds are developing, how long does the seed take to fully mature after the pistils have fully withdrawn into the calyx
2. This is the first time i tried water in a cup germ method, my seeds cracked their root while submerged in water, im guessing for ~ 6hours. they havent popped after 2 days in soil 1/2-1cm deep. with a cfl warming up the soil. and humidity dome. any ideas? Last one that cracked in water made no progress on roots at all afterward.
tardis
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Yes, thats a she. I've been growing almost a year now for my own personal medicine, and any white hairs you see are a she.
tardis
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males are like a closed CLAW on the end of a small stick. Or they look like small potatos on the end of a stick. Female preflowers come to a point more like a triangle whereas males seem to come out with a small area then bulge then go roundish.
aeviaanah
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Right on, yes ive heard CNS 17 is some good stuff...i actually have a few samples around here somewhere. I think botanicare makes it and they are a solid nutrient company. I cant vouch for it personally but i would recommend it backed with botanicares name. Havent heard of the atomic wall or the super drop, just read the back of the bottle.
Water her when she needs water...lol. Let her go as long as she can without water, make sure you are around before she dies tho. They are pretty drought tolerant. They are a weed remember? You will then learn what underwater looks like. After you water she should perk right up within a few hours. An overwater looks very different than an underwater. A good rule of thumb is when a few inches of top soil feels dry to the touch add some water. Yea new growers tend to just want to do something to there plants, treat it like its a tomato plant or something....
The cotyledons wont last long, they serve there purpose and then die. Only worry if your cotyledons die before a second set of leaves has had time to emerge. Then you can assume the plant is dead. LOL...
Pistils should die off within a day or two after pollination...Then id say probably 5 weeks or so...i could be wrong. I usually pollinate at week 3 and harvest fully functional seeds at week 8. I have also had plants self pollinate around week 2, i chop at week 5 and seeds are viable. I have also noticed some seeds that dont appear viable can actually still sprout. I decided to germinate a few weak looking seeds (trying to preserve genes) they actually sprouted and are growing now
For your second question....just wait 2 days isnt much time. Some seeds take a while some come up in a few days. Make sure they have fresh air and arent being overwatered. They shouldnt need the humidome, but might as well leave it now that you started using it. Just leave em be and it should be fine. Although i stated i germinated above, typically i just shove the seed in the soil (upside down or right side up) who cares right? The germinated seeds sprout just fine with no problems...seeds all sprout at different times. I notice seeds of the same strain typically sprout at the same time, not always tho.
a female looks like the bud you are gettin ready to smoke tonight. a male looks like a bud but with consisting of a ton of balls...flowers then emerge from the balls releasing pollen. hermies look like the females with a few bananas or flowers here and there. google.com click images and search male marijuana, female marijuana, or hermie marijuana.
here is a thread i started a while back...
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/383537-sex-how-determine-early-stage.html#post4888673
bigbudda10
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i see you use the full line of earth juice and have some very nice buds. Any tips for me, i am also running the full line of ej. Do you aerate it to adjust ph?
Also 400 watt hps, 200 watt t5, 50/50 mix of foxfarm and light warrior in 3 gallon smart pots. All in a 4x2x5 ft tall area. Any strains youd recomend? Im have a hell of a time chooseing. I really want something that will knock you on your ass, that also yields well.
Also 400 watt hps, 200 watt t5, 50/50 mix of foxfarm and light warrior in 3 gallon smart pots. All in a 4x2x5 ft tall area. Any strains youd recomend? Im have a hell of a time chooseing. I really want something that will knock you on your ass, that also yields well.
aeviaanah
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If you let me know what strains you have to choose from I can give you my input. just to name a few...bubba kush, og kush, cindy 99 and deep purple are all great strains.
when using earth juice, your ph will be extremely low after mixing nutrient solution. i go through a large sized bottle of ph up every grow. ph will be around 4.5 to 5 if your base water is similar to mine. i would invest in a digital ph reader if you choose to stick with earth juice. i dont aerate nutrient solution as i think it says to use just after mixing...check the back of the bottle, take care!
bigbudda10
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Thanks for the fast reply. my tap water is 7.5, I plan on buying another ph meter. Left my last one out of liquid, so i think the reader is messed up. gonna get a new 20 dollar yellow one. (can't remember the name)
Some strains i have been trying to decide on is, green house super lemon haze, dna sour kush, barneys farm lsd, and dna's chocholope.
I also read on one of your posts to feed only when your plant asks to be feed. Or something like that. I think thats where i messed up in the past, i was giveing full stregth of all the ej nutes once a week. lol. I thought the more you feed, the more she would produce. Found out the hard way, thats not the case.
Some strains i have been trying to decide on is, green house super lemon haze, dna sour kush, barneys farm lsd, and dna's chocholope.
I also read on one of your posts to feed only when your plant asks to be feed. Or something like that. I think thats where i messed up in the past, i was giveing full stregth of all the ej nutes once a week. lol. I thought the more you feed, the more she would produce. Found out the hard way, thats not the case.