Before I quit growing forever...

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Horm

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I am so defeated and disappointed. I had six of the most perfect, beautiful cannabis plants. Spent a ton of $ and followed one of the BotaniCare feed regimens to the letter. The first two girls that went into flower room produced the most gorgeous tremendous buds i've ever seen and beyond what I had imagined I could grow myself. Then in week 6, i noticed webbing on one of the main colas. Though, otherwise, it still looked nearly perfect, alas, it was dead less than 2 weeks later. The other one died soon after as well.
The other 4 that were left in veg room seemed to be worth saving since there weren't yet any visible symptoms of pests. I started weekly application of rotating pesticide application and thinking problem was becoming under control. Then, before i knew it, hundreds, maybe thousands, swarming on outside of each container. Several times a day, i would go in, wipe them all off (or burn them off), every time, there they were again. Leaves started wilting then crumbling. Only one is still alive, but I have seedlings in separate room that i want to move into veg, so thinking about tossing it. I tried a Hot Shot pest strip thinking that was like nuking them... after 4 weeks, no effect whatsoever. I've lowered the temp for a few days, raised the temp for a few days, lowered/raised humidity, more/less ventilation... NOTHING has any effect. I've tried the following pesticides at least once or more rotating applications every 3 to 7 days:
Mighty Wash
Power Wash
Sierra Natural Science 217C
AzaMax
SM-90
Safer Soap
Dyna Gro Neem Oil
Monterey Neem Oil & Miticide
Hot Shot No Pest Strips (flower and veg rooms)
Humic Acid
Garden Safe Fungicide 3
Monterey garden insect spray with spinosad

In addition, i literally pick the mites off of every single leaf and stem on a daily basis, keep the rooms immaculately clean, only enter in fresh clothes, i have tried for about a year now and have nothing to show for it. I sure wish there was something else i could do besides give up. I can post pics of the whole ordeal if anyone replies or cares to see. thanks in advance for reading, hope to learn something.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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you pick mites off of leaves? they've gotten big enough to see with your eye and grab with tweezers?
burn your entire house to the ground, shave yourself hairless and burn it, bath in spinosad, and start over.

seriously, need some pics, i can't imagine mites being that big, or overrunning your containers. kind of sounds like root aphids, not mites. post some pics, im sure if anyon knows whats up, they'll tell you.
 
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Horm

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
you pick mites off of leaves? they've gotten big enough to see with your eye and grab with tweezers?
burn your entire house to the ground, shave yourself hairless and burn it, bath in spinosad, and start over.

seriously, need some pics, i can't imagine mites being that big, or overrunning your containers. kind of sounds like root aphids, not mites. post some pics, im sure if anyon knows whats up, they'll tell you.
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Illinois Enema Bandit

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OK slow down,you know you can grow good buds because you made it half way thru bud with nice looking plants before shit hit the fan with spider mites,before you quit growing forever I have some questions .

when you found the mites & treated the plants what cleaning & prevention methods did you apply to the grow room itself ,and all your equipment ?

also another question about your yard,does your yard have lots of bushes & trees or shrubbery around the property,or close by ?

Many times mites are brought inside the grow area from simply rubbing up against an outdoor plant with mites,the bastards get on you & transfer to your grow room .
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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this is true. i really like capt. jack's dead bug brew. i've never had to spray with it more than twice to get rid of anything so far. if i was you, i'd spray all the shit in my yard, move everything into one room, clean the hell out of the empty room, then trade rooms and do it again.
i've started doing biweekly sprayings, just to stay ahead of the bugs, no matter how clean you keep it, they come in on your clothes, your shoes, just fly in the damn door when you're going in or out, if it aint mites, its thrips, or leafminers, or w/e
 
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Horm

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Illinois Enema Bandit said:
OK slow down,you know you can grow good buds because you made it half way thru bud with nice looking plants before shit hit the fan with spider mites,before you quit growing forever I have some questions .

when you found the mites & treated the plants what cleaning & prevention methods did you apply to the grow room itself ,and all your equipment ?

also another question about your yard,does your yard have lots of bushes & trees or shrubbery around the property,or close by ?

Many times mites are brought inside the grow area from simply rubbing up against an outdoor plant with mites,the bastards get on you & transfer to your grow room .
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I live in MI and we have newsworthy mite population explosion this past summer due to drought. I think they are always going to get in somehow, just thought i could kill them faster than they can eat my plants... was wrong so far.
As soon as i discovered the webbing, i moved the plants out of room and scrubbed the hell out of everything with 50/50 bleach/water and then cleaned corners and equipment with 50/50 iso alcohol/water. scrubbed containers with pesticide on inside exposed areas and all over outside, then iso alcohol on outside. Washed every single leaf and stem of every plant with rubber gloves dipped in pesticide. At one point, i was drying out leaves from applying too frequently, so went to 7 day rotation instead of 3.
 
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Illinois Enema Bandit

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Horm said:
I live in MI and we have newsworthy mite population explosion this past summer due to drought. I think they are always going to get in somehow, just thought i could kill them faster than they can eat my plants... was wrong so far.
As soon as i discovered the webbing, i moved the plants out of room and scrubbed the hell out of everything with 50/50 bleach/water and then cleaned corners and equipment with 50/50 iso alcohol/water. scrubbed containers with pesticide on inside exposed areas and all over outside, then iso alcohol on outside. Washed every single leaf and stem of every plant with rubber gloves dipped in pesticide. At one point, i was drying out leaves from applying too frequently, so went to 7 day rotation instead of 3.
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Howdy neighbor,I'm in Michigan too & have been dealing with mites up the ass at our summer house in frankenmuth,our winter house in the city has zero mites on the property .

Anyhow as recommended above spinosad spinosad spinosad,I use captain jacks spinosad along with azamax to kill the bastards,I use spinosad once then about 5 days later bang em again with azamax,let the plants catch their breath & all eggs to hatch & hit em a 3rd time with spinosad & it works every time.

How are you bringing air into the grow ? I've seen mites get sucked in via intakes before,sounds like you cleaned well,I myself paint the entire room from floor to ceiling,then open & debug all my lights,ballasts,hoods,pumps,Rez's etc.
 
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Horm

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Illinois Enema Bandit said:
Howdy neighbor,I'm in Michigan too & have been dealing with mites up the ass at our summer house in frankenmuth,our winter house in the city has zero mites on the property .

Anyhow as recommended above spinosad spinosad spinosad,I use captain jacks spinosad along with azamax to kill the bastards,I use spinosad once then about 5 days later bang em again with azamax,let the plants catch their breath & all eggs to hatch & hit em a 3rd time with spinosad & it works every time.

How are you bringing air into the grow ? I've seen mites get sucked in via intakes before,sounds like you cleaned well,I myself paint the entire room from floor to ceiling,then open & debug all my lights,ballasts,hoods,pumps,Rez's etc.
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Michigan... the land of grow rooms and recording studios. Yeah, thanks, i'll try that combination/sequence and see if better results. Also planning to try putting insulation panels up and cover with tight sheet of white poly (that Panda stuff) to see if that can hold them off.
Ventilation is via duct fan near outside wall sucking air OUT. carbon filter and bug filters in ducts. Air is passively in from adjoining indoor room.
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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Horm said:
Michigan... the land of grow rooms and recording studios. Yeah, thanks, i'll try that combination/sequence and see if better results. Also planning to try putting insulation panels up and cover with tight sheet of white poly (that Panda stuff) to see if that can hold them off.
Ventilation is via duct fan near outside wall sucking air OUT. carbon filter and bug filters in ducts. Air is passively in from adjoining indoor room.
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I'm also in MI I live literally in the middle of no where nothing but deer and corn. I've never had bugs get into my room. Is your house older? The reason I ask is older houses as the settle can develop gaps and little pathways for them to get in. Look around seal up your house as best you can and don't give up!
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
this is true. i really like capt. jack's dead bug brew. i've never had to spray with it more than twice to get rid of anything so far. if i was you, i'd spray all the shit in my yard, move everything into one room, clean the hell out of the empty room, then trade rooms and do it again.
i've started doing biweekly sprayings, just to stay ahead of the bugs, no matter how clean you keep it, they come in on your clothes, your shoes, just fly in the damn door when you're going in or out, if it aint mites, its thrips, or leafminers, or w/e
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I concur.
Get this.
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Spinosad. It works great.
 
Whodatt

Whodatt

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Get rid of infested plants. Start spraying your younger plants with forbid. Wait four days and spray azamax. Wait three days and spray nuke em. Then spray nuke em every three or four days and no more pm or pests ever again. I usually stop spraying my flowering plants the last three weeks. Haven't had bugs in awhile.
 
Freddie Millergogo

Freddie Millergogo

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whitebb2727 said:
I concur.
Get this.
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Spinosad. It works great.
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Spinosad. If you have to spray every three days with it. He may also want to get an insecticide to spray the perimeter of his house or building every 2 weeks. Check out do it your self pesticide.com

Alternatively do what this guy did. He chopped everything down - probably too lazy to spray with Is he from Michigan or Canada?


Or get a grow mask like this.
 
r.i.kid

r.i.kid

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plywood and caulking... seal you room up. doors with weather stripping on all 4 sides. make your room a sealed enviroment... you can do it man! oh ventilation....they can't live in a room they can't get into or lay eggs. no soil either.
 
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