Barney's Farm LSD

Discussion in 'Seed and Strain Reviews' started by Sir Smoke, Apr 7, 2009.

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    Sir Smoke

    Sir Smoke Active Member

    Has anyone smoked this?
    I'm ordering a 10 pack from attitude later this week, but wanted to see if anyone here has some cool nice things to say about it.

    Oh, and is barney's farm pretty reliable when it comes to getting fems?
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    asphyxiated2

    asphyxiated2 Active Member

    I got 10x Morning Glory fem. from Barneys farm. Planted two of them - grew to be hermies. Now planted two more of them - still growing, so we'll see. But I know one thing - won't ever order from them again.

    But regarding the LSD strain - as far as I know of, ye can't get them from anywhere else, so you're getting trial & error. Good luck))
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    Hobbes

    Hobbes Well-Known Member

    Barney's Farm - Red Diesel feminized - hermie mother and clone.
    Dutch Passion - Blueberry & Strawberry Cough feminized - hermie mothers and many clones

    I'm noticing a trend.

    I've got a fem seed for 11 more strains, it'll be interesting to see if there are any that don't hermie.

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    bongsmilie
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    pinkus

    pinkus New Member

    just wondering are they turning hermie late in flower or all through? Also have any "true" female running at the same time? I've been avoiding Fem seeds because I like to try my own crosses and don't want to introduce any more hermies than is "natural"

    I just chopped two Mexis, the beans came from a schwag bag. One was a true hermie: all the branches except one female, all through flower. it turned out OK. The other is lemony, floral and except for being a little fluffy, perfect.
    I'd give it a 10/10 in taste, 8/10 potency, 5/10 appearance. I'm glad I cloned her :)

    sorry to hear about the trannys, but I know from your posts you have deep field. oh yeah +rep and by the way you have the peakseeds BB up yet? DJ's BB is one of my all time favs.
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    Hobbes

    Hobbes Well-Known Member

    "just wondering are they turning hermie late in flower or all through?"

    I've been noticing the bananas about 5-6 weeks into flower. I had a few bananas on Strawberry Cough last grow (1 mother in pro mix and 4 clones in RDWC) but not a single banana on either of two SC clones I have going now.


    " Also have any "true" female running at the same time?"

    Yes. A Dr Greenthumb mix pack S/I hybrid, fruity and tastey and not a single banana. Bubblegum (Serious), Kali Mist (Serious), Big Laughing (Dr Greenthumb). Nigh a banana to be seen. The Red Diesel clone that's hermied excessively was in the same RDWC container as the two Strawberry Cough clones that didn't hermie. The RD fem I got seems quite unstable.

    "sorry to hear about the trannys,"

    I was expecting some bananas, just not as bad as this Red Diesel. It's one of the trade offs for feminized seeds, IMO they're still the best way to sample a lot of strains inexpensively and quickly. When we find a strain we like through the fem seeds it's time to buy a pack of regulars to find a mother. Break out the tweezers, a spray bottle and a jug of Reverse.

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    "have the peakseeds BB up yet? DJ's BB is one of my all time favs. "

    They came in yesterday, 27 days, everything perfect. DJ's BB is one I want too, and F13, Blue Moonshine, Blue Satillite, True Blueberry, ....

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    bongsmilie
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    Hobbes

    Hobbes Well-Known Member

    The Truth About Feminized Seeds

    by "G"

    We explain how "feminized" seeds are made, why the plants are more likely to turn males, and how to use normal seeds to get a large all-female crop.

    The idea of “feminized” seeds is heralded as a new wave of breeding enabling you to grow only females, but in reality it is a less reliable and less effective method than simply cloning your favorite plant. Feminizing seeds is nothing new; in fact, it’s done from a process that used to be called “hermaphroditic breeding” or “Breeding with Herman”.

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    Even a leaf can root!

    During the 1970s and ‘80s it was often the case that the seeds you grew came from a bag of good bud. The bud usually had a name, but it was often made up by the local dealer trying to make his stash sound more exotic. In truth, you knew nothing about the parentage of the seeds that your bag contained. Sure, the female was great smoke – but you knew nothing of her size, shape, yield or genetics. The male involved was a total mystery; there was no way you could guess what the genetics of the pollen donor was. These seeds generally resulted in a range of plant genetics, which made one believe that there were a variety of males around when the female was budding.

    As is often the case when genetics are mixed, you get failures and successes. More than one great breed was founded on a bag of random seeds. You would plant a hundred or so of the seeds you had, wait to see what Mother Nature – and your local dealer – had handed you, keep your fingers crossed hoping for a super-breed, and watched as some of the seeds came up. A few of the seedlings were sickly and didn’t live long, while others were strong, vigorous, and grew like weeds (pun intended), so you culled the sickly, nourished the healthy, and picked your favorites.

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    Through this lengthy and detailed process you would end up with a number of healthy young marijuana plants, which would be transplanted into large containers and, after ten to fourteen days, introduced to a budding cycle of 12 hours light and 12 hours dark. This causes the plants to elongate and show their sex, so it was easy to quickly find and kill the males and wait patiently (or impatiently!) for the remaining females to develop buds and ripen. Doing this inside grow rooms and greenhouses was easy and effective, but the seed planting and selection

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    Fucking incredible, three weeks into floweringprocedure had to be repeated every year, and crops varied from big and dense to small and weak. We also found that after all that trouble of removing males, we sometimes ended up with females that switched sexes when they were stressed, resulting in accidental cross breeding – female plants were pollinated by females that developed male sex organs (hermaphrodites). We decided to grow out those seeds and, to our joy, we discovered that the ratio of females to males was skewed to a greater number of females. This was our discovery of hermaphroditic breeding.

    Around the same time we were re-introduced to the method of cloning – I say re-introduced because while it wasn’t a process we had been using, it was a simple gardening technique my grandmother had shown me years before as “making cuttings”. She would cut off a branch of a plant with a sharp knife and stick it into a hormone rooting solution, homemade from pieces of willow tree branches soaked in water. Growers these days buy rooting hormone, but the process is identical.

    I had a crop of 20 young plants of various strain backgrounds. We took two clones from each of the plants, and then used the budding light cycle to force the sex to show. Once we identified the male plants (half of them) we killed them and their clones, which still left us with ten large budding females and their 20 clones.

    Now we had ten different hybrid genetics in total with two clones from each to work with and choose from. Even though we were making great strides, we wanted a room full of the same breed with the same size and characteristics. Basically, we wanted many copies of one great female plant so made the decision to play “Breeding Hermans”. We took two clones from one female plant, stressed one of the clones until it developed male sex organs, and then bred it with the other female clone. To our delight it worked – we ended up with seeds that grew into females 85-90 percent of the time and were consistent with the original female plant’s characteristics. We could now plant around 30 to 40 seeds and end up with 30 female plants the same size with the same genetics. We were ecstatic.

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    Placing clones in the soil

    However, silver linings often have a cloud attached and it was true in this case. The female plants that developed from hermaphroditic seeds had the drawback of being far more likely than ordinary plants to develop male branches – turn “Herman” – when stressed. More than once, a power, pump or light failure caused enough stress to the plants that they easily went hermaphroditic. Outdoors we had even more trouble; in bad-weather years we could end up with a plant from a feminized seed developing male flowers and blowing pollen all over the other plants, ruining our dreams of a sinsemilla crop. We decided that feminized plants might have a place in our business’ industry, but it wouldn’t be in our gardens.

    It was our dream to grow rooms full of females of consistent genetics, and we made our dream come true by going back to cloning. It was so simple that we couldn’t believe that we hadn’t thought of it before. We planted ten normal seeds and nourished them with love and care, but this time we took 25 clones from each plant instead of just two. Then we put the mothers into bud cycle and sexed them; within ten days we identified and killed off the male plants and their clones, and found that we had six large females in bud and around 150 female clones. We continued to bud the mothers as we began to grow our female clones, and finally decided there were two plants that stood out from the crowd – they were bigger, denser, and smelled the best, so we kept their clones and culled the others. We harvested all of the mothers then placed the 50 chosen young marijuana plants into two rooms and switched them to the budding cycle. We had developed a process that made our dream a reality: grow-rooms full of consistent female plants.

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    Rooted clone being transplanted

    It doesn’t take a horticulturist to see that using cloning to procure a room full of female cannabis plants is far more economical than growing “feminized seeds” that easily go hermaphroditic. It is simple to grow numerous female plants with only a few seeds of known genetics. For example, if you get ten seeds from a world-class marijuana breeder/bank, such as Burmese from Vancouver Island Seed Company (VISC), those seeds should become ten

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    seedlings. At three to four weeks, take ten cuttings from each of the plants, then flip the plants to the bud cycle. Kill males as they show their sex and get rid of their clones, and you should be left with about five large budding females (more or less) and 50 guaranteed female clones of the same pure genetics, without any hermaphroditic tendencies.

    So, for the price of ten seeds you end up with dozens of pure female plants, instead of purchasing “feminized” seeds only to get an unstable and unpredictable hermaphroditic breed. You can use regular seeds to grow an all-female crop, and that’s why we don’t sell feminized seeds.


    http://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/180240-question-about-fem-seeds.html

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    Great article

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    bongsmilie
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    Shonuff504

    Shonuff504 Well-Known Member

    LSD place 3rd this year in the cannabis cup. I reccently had the opportunity to smoke some... and i have to tell you its some of the best smoke i came across in a long time. The taste is earthy with a some lemon and diesel. The smoke is potent and hits you right away. I'm currently growing some feminized LSD's. I wish i would of known that feminized barney's farm seeds have a tendency to turn hermie:cry: O well hope none of mine do:peace:
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    MostlyCrazy

    MostlyCrazy New Member

    I am growing BF LSD fem. 5 weeks into flower with no sign of a hermie - all female from fem seeds. Three clones for next grow and no sign of a problem. Impressive plant when grown next to a BF Blue Cheese. Multiple colas (fimmed and supercropped), can take max nutes and expect a big harvest.
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    DEEGEE976

    DEEGEE976 Active Member

    I had 2 lsd and took 8 cuttings then flowered the two, i got 8 1/2 oz bone dry:bigjoint: but i had to end a week early cuz of early signs of mold:cuss: (got scared). out of the 8 cuttings 2 died the other 6 will done in a couple of weeks
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    MostlyCrazy

    MostlyCrazy New Member

    Just finished my LSD grow about 3 weeks ago. About 6.7oz from two plants. Very trippy and up high to start that last about 2 hours and then the mellow but not couch lock effects take hold and you just smile until you sleep peacefully. No carryover the next day but I repeat! LOL! My top strain so far. Have another batch with 3 LSD from clones of the first batch (grew that batch from fem seeds) and I just turned them to 12/12 on Thursday. I expect a repeat performance. Have in the line-up for next grow - Purple wreck - regs, Grape Purps- fems, Purple skunk - reg and 1 free Ca. Hash and one Blue Hash from the Purple Wreck attitude order. May crossbreed to learn a new skill as soon as I figure out what the new stuff is like. I'm hoping for an Purple LSD Hash Wreck at some point. That may turn me inside out and backwards!

    That LSD does look like it's getting mold but it's not and my flowering dried to look like it's covered with cotton candy or milk weed thistle!
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    Cannabis Corpse

    Cannabis Corpse Member

    :clap:bravo mostly crazy. i just got a lil more excited about my order of LSD. those yeilds and that high both sound mighty impressive. im also getin sum purple wreck too. purty pumped now,thanx bro.
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    MostlyCrazy

    MostlyCrazy New Member

    Glad to be of assistance CC. I finished my second grow with clones of the LSD (not easy but not hard to clone). When I checked the trichs before I cut it had about 2x the first grow. Today I vaped a 2 week cure bud and as I suspected it has increased power and taste delicious. Big head rush and trippy followed by an intense F it all relaxation. This batch might have to be my after work weed! LOL!
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    mhg26

    mhg26 Well-Known Member

    Has anyone been able to order Utopia Haze from Barney's?? I'm really trying to get some of that but I cant seem to find it anywhere?
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    MostlyCrazy

    MostlyCrazy New Member

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    mhg26

    mhg26 Well-Known Member

    Awesome man thanks! I am definitely ordering them for my next grow. I'm not sure whether I should go with 5 fem seeds for $71 or 10 regular seeds for the same price? Any opinions?
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    MostlyCrazy

    MostlyCrazy New Member

    Gonna get 5 fems on average either way which is probably why they price it that way. If you are not breeding get the fems. Saves a lot of hassle for a new grower.
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    mhg26

    mhg26 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I think I will go with the fems. But thanks for the input man. I might also order a sativa or indica pack of mixed seeds from the greenhouse seed co. I was tempted to order some super lemon haze but I think that the high might be too strong and really knock me on my ass haha.
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    MostlyCrazy

    MostlyCrazy New Member

    If you're growing hydro take it from me, pick one strain and learn it (even if you don't like the finished product - unlikely). Reason is different strains need different nute levels for optimum harvest. For instance I had LSD and Blue Cheese the last grow and the 2 - LSD could take whatever I wanted to throw at it and the 1 - BC likes a light-medium dose and the high dose I gave them just blew her out of the water. There are also height differences to consider and moving lights around to keep an even canopy in that case is a real pain.

    FYI folks, Attitude has Subcool's seeds in stock. Snagged my 10 - Panadora's Box and also ordered 10 fem LSD. $217 with sleath guaranteed shipping in the mug. Used 420 as the coupon code for 10% off and it still works. Still expensive but I know they'll be worth it!
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    mhg26

    mhg26 Well-Known Member

    Hey thanks again for the advice. I was really looking at all the different strains you can purchase and I just got so happy thinking to myself that soon enough I will be smoking some real good herb for once:-P...I can't begin to tell you how dumb most people are when it comes to good bud in my area. People charge $20 for 1 gram of terrible mids with tons of seeds and stems and it will barely even get you high. It really pisses me off and that's why I've felt the need to actually grow my own stuff. And its great because the people are so dumb that I'm going to charge them $35 for 1 gram and either $550 or $600 for an ounce. The one thing that I'm really hoping for is a great yield. I only have the one plant going in the bubbleponics system but she is doing really well. She has over 20 main colas going so I really hope she gives me 6-8 ounces of dried buds. :weed:I just measured her a few minutes ago and I can't believe it but she's 47 inches tall now! And only into day 15 of flowering! Any opinions on how tall she'll end up if I flower her for 8-9 weeks??
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    MostlyCrazy

    MostlyCrazy New Member

    They usually stop growing 2-3 weeks into flower. Some go as far as 4 weeks but not many. I'd think you are close to the top on vertical growth. Then they concentrate on the flower for the rest of the grow.

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