Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

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bobhamm

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DaveCoulier said:
You can use plant growth retardants that block the synthesis of gibberellic acid. This will reduce internodal length, but I wouldn't bother. You've seen how tight the internodes are on my mostly sativa skunk haze using just MH.
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no, that would be cheating, I'm not organic but those chemicals just dont sound like a good idea :) next grow Ill incorporate a lot of riddles tech and work on shortening the internodes, LST and supercropping shouldn't affect internoodal length should they?
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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grnbutr said:
Hi new to this and i just got done reading this from page one so I may be wrong on this but the guy from burmuda keeps saying hes buying a dig ballast for cmh I thought it was mag ballast for cmh I ask cause I am sold on this and was going to buy a hps for my flo room but not now? BTW This has been one of the best things Ive read so far for a bigginer thanks to all.
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not buying a big ballast buying the only ovverpriced non digital ballast available to me
 
DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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bobhamm said:
no, that would be cheating, I'm not organic but those chemicals just dont sound like a good idea :) next grow Ill incorporate a lot of riddles tech and work on shortening the internodes, LST and supercropping shouldn't affect internoodal length should they?
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Supercropping should help since more of the plant is now getting the same amount of red/far-red. Whereas if you just left the plant to grow vertically, there is a greater amount of far-red/red light reaching the lower parts and that will lead to stretching, so crop away I say.

I dont have much experience with lst, but I imagine it will help too. Keeping plants short and bushy is better than letting them grow tall and 'skinny' for indoors cultivation.
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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RiddleMe, some of my lower fan leaves are out of whack. Could this be from the Pro-teKt? A nutrient lock-out? It's only had Jacks and Pro-teKt. Flushing her soil seems good, then a 1/4 Jack's next was my plan so far.
Daniels:blsmoke:
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shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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Protekt, added first to my reservoir, raises the pH to 8.4 starting with RO water. So if you aren't checking pH closely, you could raise your soil pH and cause a lockout. In my case I use the whole dynagro line, so the other products when added knock the pH back to about 6.0, right where I want it.
 
grnbutr

grnbutr

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I have a question and since there are so many ppl on this post that seam to really know there shit and since Mr. Riddleme has so much to offer in knowledge I feel this is the best place to get a relpy so here goes.

I live in pacific NW and have a grow in garage and am just geting my sprouts out of the ground. I was thinking of runing lights at night to keep the temps up as its getting cold at nite 50s, anyone know why I should'nt do this it's a legal grow?

Thank you all for the time and knowledge you have shared.
 
LiveHigh

LiveHigh

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grnbutr said:
I have a question and since there are so many ppl on this post that seam to really know there shit and since Mr. Riddleme has so much to offer in knowledge I feel this is the best place to get a relpy so here goes.

I live in pacific NW and have a grow in garage and am just geting my sprouts out of the ground. I was thinking of runing lights at night to keep the temps up as its getting cold at nite 50s, anyone know why I should'nt do this it's a legal grow?

Thank you all for the time and knowledge you have shared.
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Plenty of people do that. I'd say the only possible thing that could go wrong is if at night it got the walls of your garage hot and then infrared goggles could sense the heat at night, if there are helicopters that do that sort of shit near you. So proper insulation would prevent that.
 
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Illumination

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grnbutr said:
I have a question and since there are so many ppl on this post that seam to really know there shit and since Mr. Riddleme has so much to offer in knowledge I feel this is the best place to get a relpy so here goes.

I live in pacific NW and have a grow in garage and am just geting my sprouts out of the ground. I was thinking of runing lights at night to keep the temps up as its getting cold at nite 50s, anyone know why I should'nt do this it's a legal grow?

Thank you all for the time and knowledge you have shared.
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Go for it ...it is what I do in flower 9 pm -8:30 am as it helps with temps and many other ways as in less electric cost for not having to heat or cool as much or at all...unless you are doing a big grow, dealing, or alot of people know I wouldn't worry about the tech...rats are what get people busted...plus you said it was a legal grow so definitely go for it IMHHO

Namaste':eyesmoke:
 
Rocky Mountain High

Rocky Mountain High

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I had and have some stuff Daniel, it's got to be the cal or mag. the jacks website says for growing tomatoes to add epsom salt for mag.

My goddess plant is a bit touchy about cal and I don't think the jacks has any, since I've started supplementing it, no problems on the set that is about 4 weeks behind. Caught the Riddleme Mangos just in time. Look at that journal. Same stuff.

Hit it with the cal-mag+ brother and you will be fine, IMO
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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riddleme said:
damn my peeps are given good advice, looks like you guys don't need me anymore :)
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RM3, if you're building an Army, it needs a General. :mrgreen: It would have to be you.:-P
I leeched it with 5 gal. of water. To give it Cal/Mag, what would you recommend? I have Hydrated Lime I use for my soil mix. It doesn't have directions for this though. A tea with it would work right? I have Epsom Salt in case that would help. So yea, we still need you.:D
Daniels:blsmoke:
 
DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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Danielsgb said:
RM3, if you're building an Army, it needs a General. :mrgreen: It would have to be you.:-P
I leeched it with 5 gal. of water. To give it Cal/Mag, what would you recommend? I have Hydrated Lime I use for my soil mix. It doesn't have directions for this though. A tea with it would work right? I have Epsom Salt in case that would help. So yea, we still need you.:D
Daniels:blsmoke:
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The last thing you want to do is use hydrated lime in your soil. Its nothing like dolomitic lime, or calcitic lime. Hydrated lime is very alkaline, and will raise your soil ph up into the 9 or higher easily if over applied. Its not an easy lime source to work with, so I would avoid ever using it.

I used it once before after reading someone say it was the same as dolomitic lime..Well it obviously wasn't, and the plant came to an immediate halt in growth, and was completely stunted. Ph was over 9 when checked. Thankfully a flushing and repotting into new soil did the trick, but I dont want to see you experience the same thing, nor anyone else.
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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DaveCoulier said:
The last thing you want to do is use hydrated lime in your soil. Its nothing like dolomitic lime, or calcitic lime. Hydrated lime is very alkaline, and will raise your soil ph up into the 9 or higher easily if over applied. Its not an easy lime source to work with, so I would avoid ever using it.

I used it once before after reading someone say it was the same as dolomitic lime..Well it obviously wasn't, and the plant came to an immediate halt in growth, and was completely stunted. Ph was over 9 when checked. Thankfully a flushing and repotting into new soil did the trick, but I dont want to see you experience the same thing, nor anyone else.
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This is the Garden Lime I have. It is dolomite. http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/org_trad_overview.html
So is a tea of it good? Or sprinkle a bit on the soil ?

Your Avatar kills me BTW
 
riddleme

riddleme

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Danielsgb said:
RM3, if you're building an Army, it needs a General. :mrgreen: It would have to be you.:-P
I leeched it with 5 gal. of water. To give it Cal/Mag, what would you recommend? I have Hydrated Lime I use for my soil mix. It doesn't have directions for this though. A tea with it would work right? I have Epsom Salt in case that would help. So yea, we still need you.:D
Daniels:blsmoke:
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I would just add Epsom salt you could do the tea thing like I do (1 tablespoon to a pint of water, then 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of that to a gallon of water, I just mix it with ferts) or 1 teaspoon to a gallon of water once, I'm sure you saw me add 1/2 teaspoon (of the tea) in my last feeding as a preventative :)

seems I remember you having your soil tested, did you test the water your using as well?

and Espoma Garden Lime is what I use :)
 
DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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Danielsgb said:
This is the Garden Lime I have. It is dolomite. http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/org_trad_overview.html
So is a tea of it good? Or sprinkle a bit on the soil ?

Your Avatar kills me BTW
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Here is the MSDS of Espoma's Garden lime. Looks like you are just fine with it.

You can make a tea with it, but it really doesn't dissolve in water. But it would make for an easier time watering in I imagine.

Glad you like the avatar. I think thats how weed should always make me feel hehe.


Oh, on a side note. I want to thank everyone that has given me rep. You guys have given me more love here in a few days than I have ever gotten in my grow journal. Granted, its full of failures, and I dont think I deserve much rep for it :), but at least people can learn from my failures and misdiagnosis's.
 
ElectricPineapple

ElectricPineapple

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ya, id say you need magnesium. i had that problem in late flowering with mine. every watering id give them mag, they would stop shedding leaves, but half a dozen leaves would fall before the next watering sometimes. makes me think i might of had something wrong with my soil, or they were eating the mag up. who knows ha
 
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