Avid Mite Killer

dakilla187 said:

I just ordered avid mite killer, I came across a post of someone mentioning that you need to clone for 3 generations before you flower. Is this true information as I will cancel my order if it is as thats a mighty lot of work.

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curious2garden said:

You must use Spinosad as a root drench. That is the only way to get rid of them and it's crucial you add 1-2 drops of Dawn dishwashing liquid as a surfactant or you will not get rid of them. The oils and waxes on their bodies will form surface drops of air allowing enough of them to live.

It's 15cc/1 gallon water with 1-2 drops Dawn. Water with that every 3 days until they are gone. Usually takes 3-4 waterings. Then weekly root drench until you harvest.

If it's mites and I must have those genetics I clone the plant, isolate it and dip it in Avid and root drench with Avid (Avermectin). I won't flower a plant with mites and I won't allow it to stay anywhere in my indoor grow for concern about establishing a mite colony. Here is the MSDS on Avermectin: https://www.caymanchem.com/msdss/17453m.pdf This is an issue in mammals because you can generalize the Glutamate channel to our Glycine channel hence the neurotoxicity.

If you use Avid you have to clone out for three generations without treatment before you can flower. I actually wear full chemical warfare gear when I work with Avid. Avid is a potent neurotoxin. I do not have mites in my garden for this very reason. If you get mites established it is almost impossible to completely get rid of them. I'm sure some here have had success.

I've been looking at Grandevo and Venerate from Marrone (https://marronebioinnovations.com/), as I've been extremely happy with their Regalia product. But I have no direct experience.

As for Pyrethrins 1 PPM is considered enough of a contaminant in CA to consider unsafe and it's not approved for use here in Cannabis (https://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/cannabis/can_use_pesticide.pdf.) Here's an interesting article on Pyrethrins: https://www.projectcbd.org/cannabis-pesticide-regulations-need-rethink-pyrethrins-eagle-20. I personally do not use them because they did not work in veg for me.

Essentially you want to look at products safe to be used on Tobacco. I come from medicine so I'm far more conservative than most. Since I do not sell I am mostly researching and breeding for a specific trait; pain relief.

Good luck

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SCJedi said:

I have personally used Avid and Forbid when the war needed a nuclear option. Now, I would agree with @curious2garden and I would opt for a bioinsecticide from Marrone as they have linked above.

I think that 3 generations is kind of extreme. I believe that it's half-life in water is less than 4 weeks.

http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/24d-captan/abamectin-ext.html

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dakilla187 said:

I had to go nuclear and used avid with thermx one round on friday, I just ordered a small amount of that super expensive forbid to hit it next..

I was using og biowar and never gave it a full chance because in the end I realized I was just wasting time...I will use og biowar as a preventive

I used 2.5 ml avid mixed with 1g ph water

Is it really nessasary to use forbid now? At this point I am just saving my genetics and the treated plants will likely be trashed once cuttings are taken..Im just scared to take any cuttings with mites or eggs

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lemmy714 said:

Predator mites for the win.

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dakilla187 said:

I got the forbid from ebay, they sell it in very small portions for like $25

I tell you these broad mites you gotta go nuclear, get rid of them, take cuttings and ill og biowar them for the hopeful win...

I found the mites on our rose bushes, so I trashed our roses

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lemmy714 said:

You are poisoning yourself with forbid. The stuffs been banned in several states because it is so bad. Shame on you if you give this cannabis to anyone but yourself.

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