auxins and potency

i'm too lazy right now to google so why not ask the experts? if you have a link please put it here as i am very curious about this.

since i have never done anything more than germinate and get a couple inches in artificial light my question is for you total indoor growers who want more potency.

it's universally accepted that outdoor bud is more potent than indoor but i wonder why...

one big difference i see between indoor/outdoor (besides varying temps, varying light intensity, and more lumens in shorter time) is auxins..outdoor plants constantly track the sun. so, has anyone experimented with regularly tilting your indoor pots to mimic the earth's rotation, causing your plants to generate and use those auxins?? true, wind from a fan will create some auxin use but is it to the same extent and are these the same auxins used to track the sun? are these phytohormones linked to potency?

I've never thought about that before. Very good question but I don't think anyone has ever tryed it before.

well, i'm getting my garden ready this year, plowing and whatnot, and i was thinking about some tomatoes i grew last year... i had a few plants from the same strain, not clones, but definitely one phenotype from outward appearances... anyway, i accidently crushed one of the main stems with the cage and as that plant recovered its tomatoes became much better tasting than the others... if flavor is linked to auxins there is obviously some chemical domino effect..

You might be right about it. Someone needs to try it but its not going to be me.

So how would you go about with this expirement?

tilt the pot every few days i guess.

to recreate nature you'd have to tilt them throughout the day. plants actually lean in the direction of the sun as the day goes on. it's especially noticeable in sunflowers.

has anyone considered a light mover type of track and ljust move it down the track across the room throughout the day then rotate the pots 200' daily tis would be more convenient and more like the natural effect.

i was away from the site for a while but i did some basic research and i would definately say that phototropic auxins (the ones that make plants move to light) are related to not only quantity of production for fruiting plants but also in overall vigor. i found research dating back to Charles Darwin's son that showed an increase in fruit yeilds by manipulating these plant hormones, i guess no one has ever tried it with weed.



if i was growing indoors i would def tilt pots throughout the day, or if i had a hella complex setup, do like dank said and move the lights.

An interesting theory actually. I'm not sure but Id say the difference of indoor and outdoor is UV.

they call them light movers. like a garage door track with a light on t goes back and forth during the on cycle... hydro stores, nat garden supply etc...

Godkas said:

An interesting theory actually. I'm not sure but Id say the difference of indoor and outdoor is UV.

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that is a missing component for sure.


since the UV wavelengths aren't related to energy production i didn't factor that in to my little hypothesis...

dankciti said:

they call them light movers. like a garage door track with a light on t goes back and forth during the on cycle... hydro stores, nat garden supply etc...

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i guess the only bad thing here is that you'll drop off some lumens by moving the lights. tilting the pots won't put any more distance between source and leaf surface.

if this was a real experiment moving lights would be the best way to test because there are also auxins that control growth in relation to gravity....tilting the pots will cause the plant to generate those auxins as well.

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anyway, i accidently crushed one of the main stems with the cage and as that plant recovered its tomatoes became much better tasting than the others... if flavor is linked to auxins there is obviously some chemical domino effect..

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I am also curious about this effect. I had two bagseeds that came off the same cola which I am growing now. I accidently broke one of the main stems (almost completely) and had to tie it to a support. Once the plant recovered it clearly doubled its stem size and growth compared to the other plant. I know this is considered a severe form of supercropping, but am curious if it would affect the taste as well.

you guys might be on to something here. especially with that bit about the tomato plants. hell, if that were true for weed, it could revolutionize growing!

Honestly I attribute the greatness of outdoor planting to just a couple of simple things:

1.) The sun is the PERFECT light for your plants ( Obviously.) Perfect spectrum, perfect intensity - also the specific radiation.There is no way to duplicate it no matter how much money you spend.

2.) The ventillation is perfect outside. While it is easier to duplicate indoors than sunlight, it is still better than 99.9% of growrooms.

However - Many outdoor growers actually say that the energy the plant spends adjusting all it's leaves to the moving sun takes away from flower production. This would suggest that indoor plants actually have at least one edge over outdoor... hmmm.

There are electric tracks that will move lighting ballasts back and forth...

Personally I'm a fan of saturating the plant in light from all angles indoors so I'm not sure if this would help much if any but I'm just speculating.

i think one of the reasons plants produce THC is because it absorbs UVB really well, seeing as there is more UVB from sunlight than artificial light maybe the plants need to produce more resin to deflect the UV rays. everyonne knows that UV is bad for living things.

hmm im wondering if you can buy auxin anywhere, that way you could just jack you babies up on some steroids and get some big buds.

Friend of mine, bout 10 years ago or better had an indoor grow with 2 1000w HID on a whiligig that i think rotated on a slow moving motor. Wouldnt that simulate the effect your talking about, with the light constantly moving. PS Hes grass was pretty good, hahah, thanks