Autoflowers sick in M3 organic help

Hello everyone this is my second grow my first one didn't go so well I used Fox Farms ocean forest with the Fox Farms nutrients didn't work out well so this time I went to local Nursery and they had M3 super soil guy told me all I had to do was water so that is what I have been doing question is though because it's organic is it burning my autoflowers because they have a shorter life span and if so what can I do to remedy the situation? I'm thinking this might be the problem does anyone else have an opinion on it?

Also can anyone tell me if this is nute lockout or Nute Burn?

You dont know.
Neither do we!!!
Medium?
Ph?
Ppm?
Runoff too!
Now.Please
We can go from there.
Good luck
Tim

Tim1987 said:

You dont know.
Neither do we!!!
Medium?
Ph?
Ppm?
Runoff too!
Now.Please
We can go from there.
Good luck
Tim

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Ordered a good pH pen and PPM pen the one I got I think is junk might be part of the problem just waiting on them I will check and update.thanks

Ok.
Did you try a good flush for all times sake?
It does look over nuted/stunted

Just....

Tim1987 said:

Ok.
Did you try a good flush for all times sake?
It does look over nuted/stunted

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I was told and under the impression that I can't flush organic because it will just release more nutrients is that incorrect?

Check you soil first.
Stick your finger in the top for dampness.
Then see if you get a smelly finger

Do this before.
Let us know!

Just check
Ill be back in 10
Tim

Tim1987 said:

Just check
Ill be back in 10
Tim

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I just did it's slightly moist little spongy and doesn't smell to me just smells like dirt.

Do you have a ph stake too?
Is the medium smelly at the bottom of the drain holes?
Check and let us all know.
Tim

Bowagart420 said:

I just did it's slightly moist little spongy and doesn't smell to me just smells like dirt.

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Cool!
It is soil???
Not coir aswell?
Just soil??
Please

Tim1987 said:

Cool!
It is soil???
Not coir aswell?
Just soil??
Please

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Also tell us what, you used to buffer your media.
Please
Tim

Tim1987 said:

Also tell us what, you used to buffer your media.
Please
Tim

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It's an all-organic premixed soil I got at my local Nursery supposed to be just water is all you have to do the guy told me.called m3 organic with Papa's poop added.

Don't have a pH stake and I am using an aeration pot fabric and the runoff does not smell.

Bowagart420 said:

Don't have a pH stake and I am using an aeration pot fabric and the runoff does not smell.

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When you checked the bottom was it "kinda" clay like in texture, compared to the top?
What do you use to adjust ph?
Let us all know, please
Tim

Bowagart420 said:

I was told and under the impression that I can't flush organic because it will just release more nutrients is that incorrect?

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Yes flushing can actually release more nutrients and that is exactly why flushing can do more harm than good. Flushing and adding calmag are the two most unnecessary things people do when they start to see an issue with their plants and those are typically the two most common suggestions. Another thing, some of the worst advice you can get comes from the guy at the hydro store or nursery. They're trying to sell product and most of them don't know what they're talking about.

That plant is far enough along that I'd just give it plain water and ride it out. Especially since it's an autoflower. It would be different if it was a long flowering sativa with another six weeks or more left. It's not worth the effort chasing this and that and could actually do more harm than good. Just my two cents.

xtsho said:

Yes flushing can actually release more nutrients and that is exactly why flushing can do more harm than good. Flushing and adding calmag are the two most unnecessary things people do when they start to see an issue with their plants and those are typically the two most common suggestions. Another thing, some of the worst advice you can get comes from the guy at the hydro store or nursery. They're trying to sell product and most of them don't know what they're talking about.

That plant is far enough along that I'd just give it plain water and ride it out. Especially since it's an autoflower. It would be different if it was a long flowering sativa with another six weeks or more left. It's not worth the effort chasing this and that and could actually do more harm than good. Just my two cents.

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Im suspecting he has calcium sediment in the bottom of the pot.
But he needs to let us know.
OP - If you fixed your problem already,
Happy grow mate
Tim

xtsho said:

Yes flushing can actually release more nutrients and that is exactly why flushing can do more harm than good. Flushing and adding calmag are the two most unnecessary things people do when they start to see an issue with their plants and those are typically the two most common suggestions. Another thing, some of the worst advice you can get comes from the guy at the hydro store or nursery. They're trying to sell product and most of them don't know what they're talking about.

That plant is far enough along that I'd just give it plain water and ride it out. Especially since it's an autoflower. It would be different if it was a long flowering sativa with another six weeks or more left. It's not worth the effort chasing this and that and could actually do more harm than good. Just my two cents.

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well said! Flushing is highly overrated and often times causes more issues than it can solve. This is the newbies way to ';fix' issues..flush flush flush lol..when in reality it is completely unnecessary and not worth the stress it creates. Not to mention that people will flush with plain ph'd water, which actually does absolutely nothing at all to 'clean' the medium..as the cec sites that are occupied with the 'unwanted' elements, will not be unbound from their sites with simple water..its why people who use cal mag think it's the miracle fix..they think they had a cal mag deficiency and they flushed with it, now all is good..when in reality, the calmag, has nothing to do with the plant needing it..it simply has the power (calcium and magnesium to a degree), to clear the cec sites of either the aluminum, or hydrogen that they have clung on to over time..by clearing those sites..the plant can get back to a healthy rhizosphere and continue on. The problem is, that 90% of the people have absolutely no understanding of any of this or why it works..so they continue on with their thoughts that calmag is needed..calmag is missing..it comes from uneducated people with regards to plant biology! Testing runoff and such..useless and not needed. Plus if in organics like OP is..ph is mostly irrelevant as well..so many misinformed people and the worst is..they spread that info and newbies will pick it up and then spread it too..its why finding the truth in forums for newbies..is very time consuming..so much to filter through and in the end, one has to take it upon themselves to truly learn about plants and how they work at the base level..most will not know this or care to learn it. Happy growing OP..to me it seems the plants are naturally getting to the end of their life, and the yellowing is natural..i highly doubt you have a toxicity or lockout..if anything..it's missing some food, but from the looks of it..she's finishing up naturally. I would however look into the watering practice..odd that your medium seems bone dry near the edges and damp just around the stem. How much water and how often do you give it?

And what about when a "newb" totally od's the plant in a little pot?
What would you do to amend??
Ever heard of "crop cycling"? Or leeching?
What do YOU do?
Please do tell???