Auto White Russian (White widow, AK47, Lowryder) grow with CFLs

Some very interesting things from both of you! I think I will have to go further afield next time for my compost. The seedling isnt big enough to look like that pic, its just a tiny seedling and cant even get started, theres nothing to work with! Although a couple of my WRs have the wobbly leaves thing a bit so Im guessing they dont like the compost much. The LRs seemed OK with it, maybe the WRs are a bit more sensitive. I wonder if that femminsed thing would work with automatics, since their lifecycle is slightly different. I dont think Ill worry about trying anything advanced like that yet, havnt even manged to make normal seeds that work yet!

The first pic is of the retarded seedling - total gonner. The second is the other Mix seedling - Star, that seems to be doing OK. The third pic is the two that are a bit crinkly and twisted, Ive just flushed some water through them. Then all of them together. I havnt given them any nutes yet so if they are nute burnt its just from the compost which sucks

The one in the first pic, id leave it be, i see what you mean, the first true leaves havnt come out, but still you never know, iv seen worse, its still green. Has it got the first true leaves there? between the cotyledons? Even if theyre tiny or brown looking?

I cant make out whats happening in there - bits of brown, knobbly little bits. Theres no harm leaving it in there to see but Im 99.9% sure its gunna die. And the 0.1% of hope is that it will grow to a retarded pathetic little plant so probably best to not get attached!

Fyfe said:

Haha Buckfast for breakfast

thats stuff is pure loopy juice. the amount of scraps in my area due to people on buckfast was stupid.

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a bottle of buck fot breakfast is the way
thats how i spent my my 2nd 3rd n 4th year at school bottle of wine at quarter to 9 fucking unreal lol!!

boabbymac said:

a bottle of buck fot breakfast is the way
thats how i spent my my 2nd 3rd n 4th year at school bottle of wine at quarter to 9 fucking unreal lol!!

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Lmfao

leave the retard alone. I have read people have got some grat smoke from there retarted plants.

heya looking good but lay off on watering them a bit much my lowryder done same as the lilttle one and it did die soz for thee news lol

i had/have a lowryder#2 that was retarded the first set of leaves grew in like a swiral shape and the true set of leaves came in weirdly aswell but i jus left it to let it flourish and now its in flower i must be doing sumthing wrong because i seem to have 2 males and 2 hermies from 5 lowryder seeds but its a learnin experiene

my dwarf mix seeds did pretty much the same miss. dont lose heart they should pull through fine.

mine started with a retard first leaf. then its frst true leaves came through all brown and grey. i thought they were fooked but i just left them in there and fforgot bout them for a while. when i looked in next time they were starting to grow and after a few days they caught up to the others.

even my new seedlings came through brown.

dont kill them please

I hear y'all but it isnt just a bit retarded its a lot! I do have a bit more hope now, there might be a chance the second set of leaves are trying to come thru, like I said no harm in leaving it for a while so we'll see. I thought W was a boy but now I think I see a hair so Im not sure if the things I thought were ball growth are not, cant remember what the females had bits growing where the males have balls? Still not sure enough to say for certain, only really sure that Z is a boy, but Ill keep him for now

Z and X (first pic) are 21 days tomorrow and W is 19 days tomorrow. I think X is a Girl and W is a boy, Im still undecided on Z, thought boy before but waiting to see more. Really hoping that X is a girl. I put up a new 105W red CFL and have Z and X under that with the rest still under the blue side of my dual 250w. The retard seedling (pic 4) is growing! The new weird growth has brown tips but there is new growth which is surprising, so Im curious as to how thats gunna go over the next few days!

they look real good queenbee. they should all start flowering now right?

3 of my plants started life like yourr retard plant. they still have brown tips on there first true leaves.

i think it will pull through just fine.

so am i right that you spotted 2 girls now?

3 ready to be showing sex, the other 4 are a week or so youger. Only one female so far out of those 3 I think, Im going to go check them now...

Still think X is a girl, can see one hair I think, W looks like a boy and Z's the one I thought was a boy but has a random 'hair' but I dont know if its a hair, its a bit weird. Even if its just X tho thats coooool, if none of these 3 had been female that would have pushed my harvest date back a week (the others a week or more younger). Retard is growing a few more bits of retarded leafage. I think everyones overestimating retard tho, it would be an amazing feat to get a half normal plant off it!

1 out of 3 isnt bad odd's to start with.

i hope you get lucky and get a few more females.

how are the other homemade seed's doing?

will you be planting them?

stop picking on retard, he WILL make it through

My homemade LR seeds? I still have them. 3 from A and 3 from C and a little one I found that I dont know which one it came from! I might try planting the little one first to test them but then the little seed got scratched in the grinder so it might not work coz of that. I dont want to waste the last of my homemade seeds trying to plant them too early again. Theyve had chance to dry over a few weeks now tho. I have some diesel ryders ordered tho so I shouldnt really plant more now, I might leave my homemade seeds another month or something. Oh what to do?!

Speaking of which, the postman just delivered my Diesel seeds! Ooooooh! Wanna plant now!

Ooh they all look quite different. Theres one little dark seed, one thats a bit more orangey, some darker speckled ones and some larger lighter ones. Its kinda funny but then not that you can tell which ones came from the same plant coz they look the same and 2 plants can have very different looking seeds. Ooh theyre fun!

QueenBee said:

Ooh they all look quite different. Theres one little dark seed, one thats a bit more orangey, some darker speckled ones and some larger lighter ones. Its kinda funny but then not that you can tell which ones came from the same plant coz they look the same and 2 plants can have very different looking seeds. Ooh theyre fun!

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i would have thought that the seeds should be of similar coulour and size? maybe not.

i want to grow some diesel ryders next but i beleive they get really stinky? could be a problem where i live.