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Attempting to appeal to people living today is a mistake

Discussion in 'Spirituality & Sexuality & Philosophy' started by Padawanbater2, Sep 14, 2013.

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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    People today have made up their own minds about things. I think trying to change their minds, instead of enrich the minds of the future, is a mistake. They will be gone soon enough, and with them, their opinions will be gone too. What will be left is ideas, and ideas don't stand the test of time unless they hold some truth. Given enough of it, time tends to weed out bullshit.

    You should attempt to appeal to future minds

    It will save you a lot of time and trouble anyway

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    Fenian Brotherhood

    Fenian Brotherhood Well-Known Member

    Always Have. Always Will
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    LIBERTYCHICKEN

    LIBERTYCHICKEN Well-Known Member



    The goverment had the same idea

    Thats whay they came up with brain washing camps/ opps I ment public schools
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    *oops

    *meant

    sounds like you could have used a bit of public schooling.
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    LIBERTYCHICKEN

    LIBERTYCHICKEN Well-Known Member

    hey I got my GED you know the Good Enouth Dipoloma

    I am proud not to be caught up with the BS politics my school district is/was pushing

    I cant even imagine how F'ed up schools are today
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    Zaehet Strife

    Zaehet Strife Well-Known Member

    You cannot change anyone's mind. They have to change for themselves, it's useless, hopeless. Forget about it. All anyone in this existence has are ideas, about the world, about existence... none of us have all the answers. Some of us pretend to, but it is far too easy to see past those who pretend. The question is, will we confront it in person... or just pretend to go along with it...

    Real life, is so much different than the internet. We actually have to apply ourselves, and confront one another on a personal basis, rather than typing something out thousands of miles away from one another.

    You can tell though, the ones who won't change. They are the ones who don't want to talk about it, or refuse to...

    Either way, they don't know any more about this existence than we do. The only difference between believers and us, is that we are not required to pretend we know something... when we really don't.



    We have a special freedom, we are unique in a sense... that those few of us who refuse to pretend to know something that we do not... we can be honest with ourselves.

    And that... that, is the key to happiness. To be honest with ourselves.


    Anyone else trying to find happiness in a different way will be sorely disappointed. The search will go on, and on forever... until you find yourself, looking... staring at yourself in the mirror, only to realize one day... You are just a shadow, a mirage, just a figment of your own mind. And when that day comes, you will realize just how much you you cannot be certain of in this existence.

    But alas, do not give up, because you still have you, and the decisions you make, which is EVERYTHING.
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    Mad Hamish

    Mad Hamish Well-Known Member

    Attempting to APPEAL to any mind is a recipe for one thing: EPIC FAILURE.
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    smokinafatty

    smokinafatty Active Member

    Their thoughts are just little molecules in their brains that don't matter. People are machines.
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    loquacious

    loquacious Well-Known Member

    Time does not weed out bullshit! Religion is a prime example of being total bullshit and yet it still exists. Racisim, sexism, homophobia, and so many other ideas will never die.
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    guy incognito

    guy incognito Well-Known Member

    You have a lower conversion rate with people that are already engrained, but it's not a mistake. Did you at one time believe in god? I did. I was born an atheist, then I was brain washed before I knew any better. Then I was able to think for myself, but the damage had already been done. The more I thought about it thought, the more I realized it was bullshit, and some of those thoughts were provoked by people challenging my beliefs.

    I like to think that other people are rational like me, and when presented with good arguments they will re evaluate and possibly change their mind. A lot of people seem to be atheist, even though they were raised in a religious house. Would they all independently reach that conclusion isolated from each other, or does the debate help strengthen the argument that eventually causes them to make that decision?

    No individual rain drop believes it caused the flood. Many people remain delusional, but many of us are rational and feel the cumulative weight of all those rain drops on our logic center, even if no one drop changes their mind.
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    Zaehet Strife

    Zaehet Strife Well-Known Member

    Epic, what is that from?
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    guy incognito

    guy incognito Well-Known Member

    I don't know. I have heard it as an expression and thought it was a great analogy and applied to this.

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