My statements are not claims,just statements of fact.If U are not curious to check it out so be it,Not worth my time to educate a wilfully in the dark naysayer.Magicians were your go to group to prove whether remote viewing was valid or not,last I heard they haunted clubs,theaters etc.not labs.Debate rule#2,do some opposition research,other than"I know U are but what am I.
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how does he even know where to check all you gave was vague account. if these are indeed facts then you could happily point us to where to see them no?
The reason I accept this is because it is a direct experience being described. So, .duran, thanks for the reply, back there. I just have to go one more step. To me, if it's all subjective, it's all there is. We have to remember a period where where can't remember. Those first two years of life, more or less. It means we were trained, unknowingly in the consensual hallucination we call objective reality. It's pretty easy for me to understand as the world morphs from superstition to science, that the objective reality itself might actually be changing.
You shouldn't be worried about educating me. The questions I am asking have easy answers, and you should have asked them yourself. You brought up some half remembered bogus hype and now you expect our brains to be impressed. If it was so wideley reported it would be easy to provide a link for us, yet you have now doged this request three times.
The most outspoken participant is Joseph McMoneagle, who likes to use his time on the project as a way to give credit to his abilities. (even though he doesn't deny the project ended with the government being disinterested, the government wouldn't fund any more research, ect) Joseph agreed to be tested on a TV show. He was asked to find a girl who producers told to go to one of four possible locations.
As you can see, his remote viewing revealed nothing definitive. This was the star of the project, who had complete control over the conditions of the project, and who admits the project failed, failing yet again.
OMG! You finally answered a question of mine without resorting to ridicule or attacks. Thank you so much. I am serious BTW, I do appreciate having an actual dialogue.
Do you even know what a claim is?
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What would that matter if you were the creator of the universe? If your goal is to prove you're the Messiah, and you go walking on water to prove it and somebody says you're a demon, simply do something else Jesus did back in the day, feed a crowd of 10,000 with a single loaf of bread, water to wine, any of them.. maybe even take a modern day request?
I have met Steve Shaw who now goes by the name Banachek, many times. I think I have everything he has published. The guy is very creative. He continues to fool the pants off people that know all of the normal tricks. He still tells some great stories from his Project Alpha days.
The interesting thing is that Yahweh tells his followers not to follow someone because of the miracles they can do as they could be a false prophet that Yahweh himself has sent to the people to test them. This is why it is so ironic when Xians use the miracles of Jesus to support that he was who he says he was.
“Which is more likely: That the whole natural order was suspended or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie?” - Christopher Hitchens
................CIA.run project Stargate yielded considerable scientific evidence for the reality of the phenomenon"...."Growing #s of individuals could be found to demonstrate high Quality remote viewing such as Hellen Hammond"....In 2nd yr.Pat Price was assigned to provide data on a soviet site of operational significance...."Several details conserning the technology of the Soviet Palatinsk site appear to dovetail with data from other sources".It was noted this was not the projects greatest success.Didn't locate the plane but it is out there.I do not believe your cut and paste indicated the phenom was fake ,bogus or did not exist,just that it was not up to a very high standard but does not question the phenominas ACTUAL EXISTANCE.
So your saying even if I am telling the truth and my friend can do what he says he can do, it doesnt mean anything unless he does it for a scientist? ...*shakes head* Theres really no convincing people with your mindset unless you experience it first hand, but even then you would try to convince yourself that your mind is playing tricks on you, because you are convinced that everything witnessed that was said to be supernatural is a trick of the mind.
Thats partly the reason my friend doesnt want a bunch of attention, they would ask him if hes associated with Jesus or w.e and then he would announce his disgust for Christianity (because I know he would lol) and then an army of bible thumpers are chasing him with torches and pitch forks.
No. A scientist does not need to be involved. However, you are correct, claims do not mean anything to a person that has not or cannot have that experience. They are merely claims and there is no way to differentiate between something that actually happened to you and something completely fabricated or anything in-between. Why do you find this concept so wrong?
I would bet a large sum of money that you would hold this exact same skeptical approach with many other claims. In fact you continually have dismissed the claims of many Xians that have experienced Jesus working in their life and attribute that to another cause.
This is untrue and a strawman. If you can demonstrate something under appropriate controlled conditions, I would have no option but to accept it as reality. However, I would no go so far as to label it supernatural. I would still consider many phenomena like forms of ESP natural until proven otherwise.