Atheists Are Going To Hell

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

*sigh* And Im the broken record here. You are preaching, you're trying to make me see things from your perspective even though I dont agree with it, and most likely you are going to keep doing so. Yes, my experiences say absolutely nothing about what you think reality is, that is a fact. All I am doing is presenting my experiences and what I've learned from them, you dont have to accept it. Now does this pointless discussion really need to continue? We both are at a disagreement and we both wont budge. Is there really anything left to say?

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State how Im trying to make you see things from my point of view.All im asking is for you to be logicaly consistent when making a statement or assertion in which you would want others to see as true,this being said because of your countless amounts of arguement that is senseless.My point of view has nothing to do with it,Its about logic,Clearly you are tenaciously stubborn,Its an admirable trait to be honest.But we are at an impasse.So there is nothing left for me to say regarding these exchange of thoughts with you.

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

Then you are under the same stupid illusion that the aliens are putting me under, accept they gave me a more entertaining illusion lol Nice try.

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You know what this means right?

That what you think you know... you don't really know, and neither do i.

Accept it, deal with it... or allow the aliens to continue to make you believe your ideas are true. When really... you do not know, you merely pretend to know, or more so... you allow the aliens to give you the illusion of knowledge, when in fact... you merely harbor ignorance.

Zaehet Strife said:

You know what this means right?

That what you think you know... you don't really know, and neither do i.

Accept it, deal with it... or allow the aliens to continue to make you believe your ideas are true. When really... you do not know, you merely pretend to know, or more so... you allow the aliens to give you the illusion of knowledge, when in fact... you merely harbor ignorance.

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Right back at ya man, let the aliens telepathically convince you that science is the way to discover reality and that theres no way to know "god" lol.

Exactly dude! You are almost understanding the point i am trying to make! Being certain of something that you cannot be certain of, is the epitome of delusional thought, egoism and narcissism.

Zaehet Strife said:

Exactly dude! You are almost understanding the point i am trying to make! Being certain of something that you cannot be certain of, is the epitome of delusional thought, egoism and narcissism.

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Just like you are certain EVERY single supernatural experience isnt as it seems. You are certain that science is the only way to knowledge. These certainties you have create delusional thoughts, egoism, and narcissism.

Bro, we are talking about theology, metaphysics, spirituality, things that cannot be tested within the reality we are in. Science can be tested, tangibly, thoroughly, through experimentation, and can be easily repeated, and shown to everyone on the planet.

The ideas and thoughts within the realm of the supernatural cannot.


You don't think im crazy when i say i am certain "gravity" exists, because everyone can experience it within this reality, feel it by dropping a rock on your head, test it by jumping into the air, and show others how it works merely by throwing a ball into the sky and watching it fall to the ground.

Someone sounds crazy, when they attempt to claim certainty that god is exists, when no tangible evidence can be provided for everyone to easily see.

This is the main reason why no one here on the RIU philosophy forum gives you any respect for your claims, and why we make fun of the assertions you make.

Zaehet Strife said:

Bro, we are talking about theology, metaphysics, spirituality, things that cannot be tested within the reality we are in. Science can be tested, tangibly, thoroughly, through experimentation, and can be easily repeated, and shown to everyone on the planet.

The ideas and thoughts within the realm of the supernatural cannot.


You don't think im crazy when i say i am certain "gravity" exists, because everyone can experience it within this reality, feel it by dropping a rock on your head, test it by jumping into the air, and show others how it works merely by throwing a ball into the sky and watching it fall to the ground.

Someone sounds crazy, when they attempt to claim certainty that god is exists, when no tangible evidence can be provided for everyone to easily see.

This is the main reason why no one here on the RIU philosophy forum gives you any respect for your claims, and why we make fun of the assertions you make.

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But I thought the aliens were making us believe these things...

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

Just like you are certain EVERY single supernatural experience isnt as it seems. You are certain that science is the only way to knowledge. These certainties you have create delusional thoughts, egoism, and narcissism.

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I'm not "certain" that supernatural experiences don't happen, but in the absence of tangible, testable evidence I view it as improbable.

There is a distinction.

cannabineer said:

OK so here's a question. How do you *know* these things? Specifically, consider your chosen role on these boards: to screw with the materialists. But really, deep down: how do you know that you aren't being trolled by lesser things/agencies/whatnots whose primary talent is wowing us monkeys?
That is a thought that underlies science's rejection of the subjective experience: it's an issue of trust and trustworthiness. Science (edit: and quite independently, simple human sense) has (have) shown that people can know utterly wrong things, so our baseline trustworthiness stinks. However, the proper subject of science is distinguished by having an objective component that serves as an authentication, a freeing from our so very gullible psyche.
Unless and until you can demonstrate such an objective, portably authentic component to the claims you make, we have the unassailable right to say: Nonsense. We may or may not be right, but seriously ... your naked say-so carries no weight. That is just a basic fact of human life, and you're gonna stumble over it as long as you are so amazingly high-handed in your approach.
Unless, of course, you are the troll puppet of trolls, and are amusing both yourself and the mind-rodents giggling at your pliability by trolling us here in SS&P. It's quite possible your actions are rather less voluntary than you'll admit to yourself. You may be unconfined by science, in trade for a more subtle and more severe servitude. cn

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It's a shame these posts go unacknowledged. Yeah, it was responded to, but as usual, the point was lost.. This entire thread is summarized in this one post, as clear as day.

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

But I thought the aliens were making us believe these things...

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Just as... we will continue to make fun of you, and the assertions you make, until you show some sign of intelligence, or critical thinking skills to apply to those assertions.

When you say you are certain god exists, all of us here... we understand that not only are you lying to us, you are lying to yourself.

Chief's reply: "You're lying to yourself when say you are certain god doesn't exist!"

My reply: "You foolish little boy, intelligent and wise humans do not claim certainty of anything we cannot be certain of."

Guess who you guys will never get rid of, ME! lol You will forever fight my words only for the approval and recognition of your peers. Might as well give up and let the crazy man talk

This i think is a good thing, when you assert these foolish notions of certainty, many people will learn from your mistakes, and learn from those of us who attribute to this website with knowledge, wisdom and evidence, rather than ignorance, wishful thinking and blind faith.

Zaehet Strife said:

This i think is a good thing, when you assert these foolish notions of certainty, many people will learn from your mistakes, and learn from those of us who attribute to this website with knowledge, wisdom and evidence, rather than ignorance, wishful thinking and blind faith.

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Nah man, just atheists and faithful followers of science will get something out of what you have to say. Theists think that your claim to believe in god is to lie to yourself is ridiculous, they dont listen to you guys, or else they would make themselves known and acknowledge what you have to say. You managed to convince an impressionable 18 year old southerner who makes an ass of himself in TnT of your views, some poster boy you got there... You only gain the approval of those with the same atheistic beliefs.

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

Nah man, just atheists and faithful followers of science will get something out of what you have to say. Theists think that your claim to believe in god is to lie to yourself is ridiculous, they dont listen to you guys, or else they would make themselves known and acknowledge what you have to say. You managed to convince an impressionable 18 year old southerner who makes an ass of himself in TnT of your views, some poster boy you got there... You only gain the approval of those with the same atheistic beliefs.

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I challenge you to find a single person on this entire forum who would side with you over anything, over any one of us. It can't be done and if I were you that alone would shame me away forever

Shame is an illusion.

The three people on my friends list for sure lol. Perhaps that beardo guy, he believes aliens run this bitch. The random spiritualists with avatars of the chakras and the third eye chakra, seen a few of those guys. Oh, and Finshaggy. Have I earned "Finshaggy status" yet? lol

Dead thread, chief powned and he is too stupid to even know it. lol!

Side with me over ANYTHING over you guys? I missed that detail. Im assuming at least half of these guys are theist so thats a shit ton of people siding with me about the existence of god lol.

The smart theists... are agnostic theists, which are people who are not certain of the existence of god or gods, but like the idea of a universe created by one, rather than a universe devoid of one. They understand more than anyone, that certainty in a universe devoid of supernatural absolutes is one of the most absurd and insane thoughts anyone can ever hold.

You on the other hand, fit in comfortably with the hard atheist... being a hard theist you claim certainty in the existence of god or gods, as the hard atheist claims certainty in the non-existence of god or gods...both possessing no proof or evidence for their claims, both let their emotions feed their egos, giving them the psychological need for supernatural certainty (or lack there of) in a universe devoid of such absolutes.

When you quit lying to yourself, and giving yourself false truths and certainties in the absence of them... you will have gained a level of wisdom not known to very many people.

I hope this understanding and revelation comes to you later on in life... in the mean time, you will continue to delude yourself into thinking you are certain, of something that no one is certain of.

"Science is the only way to discover reality. My faith in science is equal to that of a passionate religious zealot. Even though "god" is a concept of spirituality, NO forms of spirituality can find god, only science has a chance at finding god. I dwell in the SPIRITUALITY forum because I am insecure about my beliefs and I need to seek those that agree with me to provide more comfort about what I think I know. I have found my home, I've discovered a team of skeptics to partner up with and we shall ride each others dicks and laugh at those who have differing views and force them into silence with our display of tag team dick riding."

"If" god exists, do you honestly think "god" cant be found in any form of spirituality? Are you absolutely certain that "god" cant be found through any form of spirituality? Thats fucking ridiculous. If you truly think we live in a world of uncertainties then you are failing to express yourself that way. ACT like we live in a world full of uncertainties if thats what you truly think, dont strut around like you have the long dick of knowledge trying to put people in their place. The main skeptics here have a high horse, they are under the illusion that they are not being fooled by what they believe and view themselves superior. Your ego became apparent when I pointed out your spiritual tattoo. "IM RIGHT! YOUR WRONG! FUCK YOU!" <--- Nice Zaehet, sure sounds like a humble man of understanding with NO ego what so ever, what a role model.

You are changing nobodies views here, your words only get heard by your fellow dick riders, thus boosting your ego when they pat you on the back. Please tell me another purpose you serve here besides what I mentioned. Your biggest fan is an impressionable 18 year old southerner who acts like a shit head in TnT, what a intelligent audience you have! And to date Im going to guess that is the only person you managed to convince.

Its ironic you say this is a world of uncertainties yet you seem so certain about everything. So quick to jump on a theists opinion and label them accordingly to what you THINK you know. Im sorry man, but I just see an atheist desperately holding onto a belief, and if thats not how you feel then you are oblivious and deluded beyond belief because you are so CERTAIN in a world of uncertainties.