Are you going to take a stand against the national id?

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kronicsmurf

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Just curious if others are as nervous about this as i am? I flat out refuse to let the government take away my freedom. I have looked around the net and find that i won't be able to enter a federal building or hop a train, bus, or plane without a national id. i wonder how long it will be before the government puts a stop to other things like buying food or meds? things that are essential to living. I still refuse to buy a national id even if it means i lose my home and everything i own. i have a year before my drivers license is void so i guess after that i'll be treated like the illegal aliens in this country. Are you for or against the national id?
 
ORECAL

ORECAL

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kronicsmurf said:
Just curious if others are as nervous about this as i am? I flat out refuse to let the government take away my freedom. I have looked around the net and find that i won't be able to enter a federal building or hop a train, bus, or plane without a national id. i wonder how long it will be before the government puts a stop to other things like buying food or meds? things that are essential to living. I still refuse to buy a national id even if it means i lose my home and everything i own. i have a year before my drivers license is void so i guess after that i'll be treated like the illegal aliens in this country. Are you for or against the national id?
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I'm against it...... however, we already have a national ID, it's called your Social Security Number........

do you know when this is supposed to start?
 
hectik

hectik

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im against it... i guess they're doing the national id thing to prevent 9/11 things from happening, but! the way i see it terrorist things like 9/11 happened because the lack of security from several industries/companies... soooo why should everyone pay for their mistakes!!!




i dont know but thats what i say!
 
Biggravy22

Biggravy22

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ORECAL said:
I'm against it...... however, we already have a national ID, it's called your Social Security Number........

do you know when this is supposed to start?
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if you're born after 1960, 2014 is the deadline.

If you're born before it's 2019
 
Biggravy22

Biggravy22

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hectik said:
im against it... i guess they're doing the national id thing to prevent 9/11 things from happening, but! the way i see it terrorist things like 9/11 happened because the lack of security from several industries/companies... soooo why should everyone pay for their mistakes!!!

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i dont know but thats what i say!
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They're doing it because they'll need a database to keep track of the 450 million people who'll be inhabiting the NAU.
 
ORECAL

ORECAL

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Biggravy22 said:
if you're born after 1960, 2014 is the deadline.

If you're born before it's 2019
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this is fucking bullshit.... how can they possibly make us get yet another fucking ID that says we live here..... do they really think American citizens wont commit terrorist activities??????? all the terrorists will do is have people live here long enough to get the ID and then commit the attack..... how can they make us get the ID? and where do you do it..... I know I should do my own research on it, but if someone knows offhand so I don't have to I'd really appreciate it. I don't see how they can force us to get this ID....... don't we have enough things that fucking monitor out every move.....how do they plan to implement this?
 
hectik

hectik

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Biggravy22 said:
They're doing it because they'll need a database to keep track of the 450 million people who'll be inhabiting the NAU.
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and cant the social security # be used for that? besides i think it will just be a waste of time and money (taxpayer) to manufacture these id's and for nothing!! the government will never keep track of all people ... impossible
 
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kronicsmurf

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its bullshit that the people of America should pay for a card with all their vital information on it just so a the government can track our movements. its not going to protect us from terrorist its only going to violate our constitutional rights as free Americans. the government already spies on us this card is just to make it easier for them to track our movements.
 
Biggravy22

Biggravy22

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hectik said:
and cant the social security # be used for that? besides i think it will just be a waste of time and money (taxpayer) to manufacture these id's and for nothing!! the government will never keep track of all people ... impossible
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It's not just for us. It's for the canadians and mexicans too. Our soveriegnty will be gone. Bye bye U.S.A ,hello North american union.
 
ORECAL

ORECAL

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Biggravy22 said:
It's not just for us. It's for the canadians and mexicans too. Our soveriegnty will be gone. Bye bye U.S.A ,hello North american union.
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question...... if we become the NAU, doesn't that mean we can go anywhere in north america without a passport?
 
Biggravy22

Biggravy22

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ORECAL said:
this is fucking bullshit.... how can they possibly make us get yet another fucking ID that says we live here..... do they really think American citizens wont commit terrorist activities??????? all the terrorists will do is have people live here long enough to get the ID and then commit the attack..... how can they make us get the ID? and where do you do it..... I know I should do my own research on it, but if someone knows offhand so I don't have to I'd really appreciate it. I don't see how they can force us to get this ID....... don't we have enough things that fucking monitor out every move.....how do they plan to implement this?
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They'll implement it by taking away everything if you don't apply for it.

No job.
No bank account.
No health insurance
No House
No car
No Identity.
You'll become a PROLE and be forced to the outskirts.
 
Biggravy22

Biggravy22

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kronicsmurf said:
its bullshit that the people of America should pay for a card with all their vital information on it just so a the government can track our movements. its not going to protect us from terrorist its only going to violate our constitutional rights as free Americans. the government already spies on us this card is just to make it easier for them to track our movements.
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Just wait until they offer micro chipping. As soon as all the sheeple "see" how much "Safer" they are the Gov't will mandate it and make it law.
 
ORECAL

ORECAL

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Biggravy22 said:
They'll implement it by taking away everything if you don't apply for it.

No job.
No bank account.
No health insurance
No House
No car
No Identity.
You'll become a PROLE and be forced to the outskirts.
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how can they take away your job?
nobody needs a bank account
they can't take your house away from you, especially if it's already paid for.
I'd much rather have zero identity than what we have right now, much less a national id system.
already own a car, i'd like to see them try and take that away from me.....

I just don't get it. are they going to stick a gun in my face and shoot me if I don't give them my car, and quit my job, and give them my house????
 
Biggravy22

Biggravy22

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ORECAL said:
how can they take away your job?
nobody needs a bank account
they can't take your house away from you, especially if it's already paid for.
I'd much rather have zero identity than what we have right now, much less a national id system.
already own a car, i'd like to see them try and take that away from me.....

I just don't get it. are they going to stick a gun in my face and shoot me if I don't give them my car, and quit my job, and give them my house????
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You need an identity to have a job. Without this card you'll be a nobody.
You have a car, how are you going to drive it with no car insurance?
what happens when you run out of money? you'll have no income to fall back on. how are you gonna pay property taxes, bills? They don't need guns, once they pull the rug from under you, you'll wish they did use a weapon.
 
ORECAL

ORECAL

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Biggravy22 said:
You need an identity to have a job. Without this card you'll be a nobody.
You have a car, how are you going to drive it with no car insurance?
what happens when you run out of money? you'll have no income to fall back on. how are you gonna pay property taxes, bills? They don't need guns, once they pull the rug from under you, you'll wish they did use a weapon.
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but they can't fire you from a job, if you already have one, how can they take it away...... people at my job already know who I am, they don't need anything else but to write my ass a check.

there are shit loads of people who drive everyday without insurance. so how would it be any different, plus, do they cancel your insurance that you already have, cause if you are already set up with everything that they say you can't get without it, there is zero way to force you to get the ID.

I understand that if you were to lose any of these things, it would be impossible to get a new one, but until that happens, they cannot force anyone to get these ID's.
 
Hydrotech364

Hydrotech364

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Biggravy22 said:
You need an identity to have a job. Without this card you'll be a nobody.
You have a car, how are you going to drive it with no car insurance?
what happens when you run out of money? you'll have no income to fall back on. how are you gonna pay property taxes, bills? They don't need guns, once they pull the rug from under you, you'll wish they did use a weapon.
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money comes in alot of forms.When and if it comes to all that shit,if it ever does.do you think it will matter if my fucking cars are insured?Evidently there are alot of things that you are uninformed about gravy.


To live in peace,first you must prepare for war!!!!:mrgreen:
 
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