Are they done yet? What does "done" look like?

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THE KONASSURE

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RM3 said:
water the plants with boiling water when they are done
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@RM3

If you were reusing the soil/coco would you just use plain boiling water or would you take the opportunity to mix or infuse anything into the boiling water at that point ?

Not sure what I`d add when I did do the boil I was thinking great any bugs or rot is going to die..... lol
 
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THE KONASSURE said:
@RM3

If you were reusing the soil/coco would you just use plain boiling water or would you take the opportunity to mix or infuse anything into the boiling water at that point ?

Not sure what I`d add when I did do the boil I was thinking great any bugs or rot is going to die..... lol
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I grow in peat, sunshine mix #4 amended with calcined clay and NO I don't mix anything into the boiling water
 
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ozzyfullnewbie said:
What's the benefits of that's? :shock:
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It starves the plant of O2 by killing the roots. Plants are programed to survive floods (loss of O2 to the roots) by turning sugars into alcohol (fermenting) So what happens when you water with boiling water, leaving the plant under the lights for 3 to 5 days (varies with strains) makes em fade faster and the end result is that after drying buds taste like they have a 10 day cure.

And since I reuse the medium it also helps to clean & sterilize it :)

I first posted about this years ago in my Truth about Flushing thread

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/
 
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RM3 said:
It starves the plant of O2 by killing the roots. Plants are programed to survive floods (loss of O2 to the roots) by turning sugars into alcohol (fermenting) So what happens when you water with boiling water, leaving the plant under the lights for 3 to 5 days (varies with strains) makes em fade faster and the end result is that after drying buds taste like they have a 10 day cure.

And since I reuse the medium it also helps to clean & sterilize it :)

I first posted about this years ago in my Truth about Flushing thread

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/
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Maybe if that thread was called "The truth about Leaching" more people would have taken your advice, lol

People tell me all the time to use just water for 2 weeks but I have done that, most of them have not tried boil or my method that is sugar or molasses or potassium sulphate or honey or agave for 1 to 4 weeks before cut, yet still mouth off that "just water makes the buds taste cleaner" and there using London tap water ? I`m like london tap water needs acid and sugar for flushing at the very least ever try to drink that crap its not exactly spring water.

@RM3 you ever use aspirin ? for rooting or budding ? seems to give the plants the power to draw a lot more sugar out of their fan leaves, yeah they drop earlier but would rather that sugar go into the buds then me having to cut it off later, same principle as willow water I guess
 
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THE KONASSURE said:
Maybe if that thread was called "The truth about Leaching" more people would have taken your advice, lol

People tell me all the time to use just water for 2 weeks but I have done that, most of them have not tried boil or my method that is sugar or molasses or potassium sulphate or honey or agave for 1 to 4 weeks before cut, yet still mouth off that "just water makes the buds taste cleaner" and there using London tap water ? I`m like london tap water needs acid and sugar for flushing at the very least ever try to drink that crap its not exactly spring water.

@RM3 you ever use aspirin ? for rooting or budding ? seems to give the plants the power to draw a lot more sugar out of their fan leaves, yeah they drop earlier but would rather that sugar go into the buds then me having to cut it off later, same principle as willow water I guess
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I do use aspirin, but more for a SAR response
 
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RM3 said:
I do use aspirin, but more for a SAR response
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Ah cool I use Alpha beta protein for that in the form of Halo via folia but I find there mixes are far too strong you can use 10 to 100x less than they say but almost always use it with triacontanol so I see the plants go mad after I spray regardless, Triacontanol has saves me so much on "boost" type products and GA3 has saved me having to move a plant or touch the light timer when I want it to veg up again.

But maybe its giving a SAR response if they get frostier it could be because of that, the idea is sticky plants kill bugs either way it`s normally worth using plus its very very cheap to buy in bulk powder same with triacontanol once your buying over 3 to 6g vs using something like "canna boost" would rather use some local companies seaweed extract than pay £50 a L for anything, lol
 
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UncleBuck said:
i just wonder why no commercial or professional growers use such advanced techniques.
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what advanced techniques ? they use a lot of techniques and I`ve never seen anyone that was 100% commercial grow weed well they just do it in bulk normally

RM3 is doing what he does same as I do what I do

Many different things work most of the time you either pick the fastest or cheapest option

RM3 breeds for early amber, fuck knows what other terpins that creates BUT looking at what he posts and his flowers I can say his herb looks nothing like someone running Canna under a hps like 90% of people do, does that make it better ? who`s to say

what I do respect is when people try new shit and don`t just pay out for some branded bottle and then do the same crap over and over never trying anything new or testing a new thing on even one plant

you don`t try then no one will ever know
 
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THE KONASSURE said:
what advanced techniques ? they use a lot of techniques and I`ve never seen anyone that was 100% commercial grow weed well they just do it in bulk normally

RM3 is doing what he does same as I do what I do

Many different things work most of the time you either pick the fastest or cheapest option

RM3 breeds for early amber, fuck knows what other terpins that creates BUT looking at what he posts and his flowers I can say his herb looks nothing like someone running Canna under a hps like 90% of people do, does that make it better ? who`s to say

what I do respect is when people try new shit and don`t just pay out for some branded bottle and then do the same crap over and over never trying anything new or testing a new thing on even one plant

you don`t try then no one will ever know
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keeping your plants above 92, putting boiling water on the roots, and the rest of this nonsense is just that: nonsense.

it's garbage and should be shat on as such.
 
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UncleBuck said:
keeping your plants above 92, putting boiling water on the roots, and the rest of this nonsense is just that: nonsense.

it's garbage and should be shat on as such.
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So his plants don`t grow ?

and higher temps in the root zone when done correctly can increase bio activity and taste by a lot, just risky as fuck for most people cos they get rot

The boiling water works but it really can effect yield because it makes it very hard to do what most people do, pack your buds with water, cut them, fast dry them to 70% rh max and then screw the guy buying it from you because you sold him some bud with extra water weight

I`ve boiled lemon kush and c99 both are strains I`ve done a lot of

They were way different when I boiled them kinda like when I uvc`d a c99, but not as much of an orange shift, but day 1 after drying the bud was very smooth and tasted better than bud that fresh would normally, down side was I lost a lot of weight

Anyone who does it their way and loses money to do so, and I`m sure RM3 could not boil and yield more

So its how he wants his plants and some people are after amber flowers

Or are you saying its not real and he lies and he`s not growing his plants using the methods he`s saying ?
 
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THE KONASSURE said:
So his plants don`t grow ?

and higher temps in the root zone when done correctly can increase bio activity and taste by a lot, just risky as fuck for most people cos they get rot

The boiling water works but it really can effect yield because it makes it very hard to do what most people do, pack your buds with water, cut them, fast dry them to 70% rh max and then screw the guy buying it from you because you sold him some bud with extra water weight

I`ve boiled lemon kush and c99 both are strains I`ve done a lot of

They were way different when I boiled them kinda like when I uvc`d a c99, but not as much of an orange shift, but day 1 after drying the bud was very smooth and tasted better than bud that fresh would normally, down side was I lost a lot of weight

Anyone who does it their way and loses money to do so, and I`m sure RM3 could not boil and yield more

So its how he wants his plants and some people are after amber flowers

Or are you saying its not real and he lies and he`s not growing his plants using the methods he`s saying ?
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i'm saying his advice is horrible and will kill plants. and dreams.

a pretty simple message i think.
 
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UncleBuck said:
i'm saying his advice is horrible and will kill plants. and dreams.

a pretty simple message i think.
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I`m pretty sure you could yield more with other methods but would you yield more amber resin with other methods ?

Yes if most growers tried to do it RM3`s way they would probably kill the plants sooner than RM3 does they all end up dead don`t they ?

but if you want amber resin you gotta get dirty it seems

So Bucky how do you get more early amber ?
 
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THE KONASSURE said:
I`m pretty sure you could yield more with other methods but would you yield more amber resin with other methods ?

Yes if most growers tried to do it RM3`s way they would probably kill the plants sooner than RM3 does they all end up dead don`t they ?

but if you want amber resin you gotta get dirty it seems

So Bucky how do you get more early amber ?
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i seem to grow a ton of "amber resin" by doing things the conventional way.

but maybe that's just me.
 
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