Are these plants doomed.....????!!!!!

reeferob

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Ok I have two plants. A few days ago I noticed severe yellowing on one. The other shows slight yellowing. I have also noticed them being a little sad, kinda droopy, not perky and green as normal. Please examine the pics closely for diagnosis! So far I have narrowed it down to three things.

1. Not enough water. Since they have become more established, I water every three days well. Maybe they are using water quicker than I anticipated? I go three straight days and water well on the forth. However they were in solo cups with holes in the bottom for drainage.

2. Nute burn. I started nutes at full strength. I used Shultz 10-15-10 drops. I mixed the full dose of 7 drops to a quart of water (I always leave the water out a couple days before use). I watered the plants twice (4 days inbetween waterings) with this dosage. Since I have watered twice with plain water only. I want to try and bring these girls back to life before gradually introducing nutes this time!

3. Transplant was too late. I have transplanted just today at nearly week 5. The plants are so small I just didn't see the need. That, and I didn't want to transplant too early. So I did it this morning. I used the same soil mix, and watered with plain water as water is due tommorw. I figured watering a day early wasn't bad as the soil was dried up. I noticed the root system was fairly well established when they came out of those solo cups. Nice white roots around the sides of the cup, and wraped around the cups bottom. They came out easily.

So thats it. I just want to bring these guys back to life. I hope that a few adjustments, and allot more room for growth will fix this. I appreciate all of your help and suggestions.
 

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Little Tommy

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Nutrients too strong? I really don't see nute burn although You shouldn't be pushing full strength yet.

Under watered? I think over watered. You really need to allow them to dry out between waterings. A soil grow is usually good for about 1 week between watering/feeding.

That is my opinion - I don't think the transplant had anything to do with your issues.
 

redivider

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stick you finger in the soil to about 1.5-2 inches, if it's dry, water,

if it's wet, no water,

if it's moist, no water.... let it dry out, then water...

you should start putting nutes in when the little baby leaves start yellowing. it's bout the 4th-5th week. I started out 1/2 strength for 2 weeks. then full strength from then out.... feed em once a week...not more, i used to do that and burned the shit out of my plants....

anyways good luck
 

reeferob

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The transplant was done just today. The same day I took the pics. My thoughts were that maybe they stayed in the solo cups too long? I know that the yellowing and damage took place prior to transplanting. So I am thinking the transplant maybe didn't happen soon enough? As for water I thought I slowed up quite a bit. But will heed the advice. I thought the soil was pretty dry looking after 3 to 4 days. I was thinking this is why the plants are so droopy looking. If I can just get them back green and on track I'd be so happy!
 

slomoking13

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these definately dont look doomed! new growth is still looking pretty green
i dont think its nute burn... doesn't seem to be transplant related unless they were becoming root bound.. it looks like overwatering, which is pretty common with seedlings...just keep a close eye on them.. if they were underwatered they should perk up within a few hours of watering

I hope this helps some and everything works out for you!
 

reeferob

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Ok they look pretty much the same after watering. So I think that rules out underwatering. Still pretty sad and droppy looking. I am just going to continue to love them and perhaps cut back on watering? They now have nice big pots, and I took care to disturb the roots as little as possible. I just made up the soil mix, dug a hole the same size as thier solo cups in the midlle of the new pot. Turned them over, and gently placed them in. I loosely spread the soil around the sides and top. I also gave them a fair watering as the soil was dry. I will try the finger method from now on thanks.
I hope that some love, cutting nutes to half strength, and plenty of light will bring them back. I currently have them on 18/6. I have heard that upon transplant growth slows for about a week? Thanks for any other advice you can give.
 

michaelsto

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Could be a few different aspects. First, to really help newbies or beginners grow I would recommend you starting your first grow in ORGANIC soil. Look for certain ingrediants. Norweigen Kelp, Bat Guano.. etc, do some research. Also, these plants are in shock. If I was you, lay low on the fertilizers for a few weeks. This stage the plants in now is crucial (make it or break it). If you do start to introduce it down the road I would most definately start it with the VEG GROW BIG FF.
 

reeferob

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Ok so it sounds like your suggesting to be extra gentle during this period. Say no nutes for a good three weeks? Just plain water and light. I assume after everything looks perky and green again, I could introduce the nutes at say half strength? I like the sound of your shock theory. They are definitley lacking on something. Or maybe have too much watering? I have stopped nutes after only two doses, my last two waterings have been plain water. And I think it's a good idea to keep it that way until these plants appear to be normal and growing. After all, the roots now have more room, and the fresh soil should have some nutrition for the plants. At least enough for three weeks.
 

michaelsto

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Not trying to be a jackass or anything man. You said it for yourself, lay off the nutrients..... .... But how long? Good question. As a few weeks go on, you feed it; mainly water. This is also called "flushing" at the end of your harvest before you crop your kids. 2 weeks before you wanna pick your plant, do this process.. NO NUTES. back to fertilizers and vegetation growth stage, After you balance the rich green color back into play and grows close to a foot and a few branches. GIVE IT A GO. I'll follow up on this thread man. Not trying to sound mean or force anything but This is all a learning process for TONS. test/trial
 

michaelsto

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Also, NEVER give your plant BIG or small the full dosage. Hell, work your way small amounts. Measure EVERYTHING. Makes the world of difference. Good idea on feeding the plant just water. Continue this process and make sure much light is provided for these. If worse comes to worse, transplant into different/new soil. Welcome to the headaches and stress. bongsmilie
 

reeferob

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No offense taken. I knew I overdid it with the nutes. And it is trail and error. This is after all my first grow with bagseed. I am just trying to learn the process, and know what to look for. This is the longest I have had a plant grow. Before I'd just stick a seed in another plant's dirt to watch it spring up, then flop over after about 6 days! Now by reading and allot of shared knowledge on here my plants have made it five weeks, and they look like they might still have a chance if I take it easy. My ultimate goal is to get some useable bud this grow. So I appreciate all of you veterans advice, and won't be easily offended by suggestions and know how!
 

michaelsto

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Make sure if you have CFL lights on the plants that they are close enough to the plants ( few inches) If you can't personally raise the lights then prop the plant up on something so it stands tall under the lights. I understand your confusion with growing. I'm sure that has happened to EVERY SINGLE one of us on the forums. Everybody experiments. What's life without. Good luck with your grow man. Hope I could lead ya back on track if you were even guided off.
 

reeferob

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Kool. I do have 4 of those 100 watt equivalent CFL's hanging just ontop of both plants. They are two daylight and two bright white. I have them about 1 to 2 inches max from the tops of the plants. I have been running them 18 hours a day. Thanks for the words of encouragement. I will keep you posted!
 
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