Are Public Schools Harming OUR kids?!!

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j.GrEeN.<,{'^'},>

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1986 speech, renowned educator and author Samuel L. Blumenfeld offers a devastating critique on the effects public education is having on America's youth.

What is your opinion, on this video/issue......??


[video=youtube;js7NEWMPRvI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js7NEWMPRvI[/video]


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UncleBuck

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oh, hey. a ron paul supporter posted a ridiculously long youtube video instead of trying to use their own words.

how surprising.
 
Heisenberg

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UncleBuck said:
oh, hey. a ron paul supporter posted a ridiculously long youtube video instead of trying to use their own words.

how surprising.
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I am not sure how he can solicit opinions on a video by just using words. It would seem the opinion hinges on the video actually being watched. If he actually took the time to type out a lengthy description of this video in his own words, that would be surprising.

Not that some suggestions of time frames wouldn't help. Very long video. I agree it's ridiculous to expect others to watch without providing context.
 
abandonconflict

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So many mouth breathers support Ron Paul that I must question my support for him. As long as it doesn't end up working in Willard's favor I suppose it doesn't really matter too much.
 
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Matthew Rapley

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Public schools are sub-standard ... close them all down.

If you want to educate your kids, pay for private education.

... that's the way forward.
 
PrivateEye6

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they are harming children. I went to public schools and they sucked the life outta me dropped out and got my personal study on, while medicated of course
 
Johnny Retro

Johnny Retro

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Inner city charter schools have substantially higher graduation rates than their public school counterparts. And do so on a smaller budget. And people still think its the "funding" aspect of it. lol...
 
Voidling

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Call them for what they are, Government Schools. Teach you to stay in line, don't think for yourself, don't stick out, compete with those around you in everything. The best grades, be the best in sports, have the best consumer.
 
tomahawk2406

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Voidling said:
Call them for what they are, Government Schools. Teach you to stay in line, don't think for yourself, don't stick out, compete with those around you in everything. The best grades, be the best in sports, have the best consumer.
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lol dude, what the fuck school did you go to??
 
PrivateEye6

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tomahawk2406 said:
so you fail school and its totally not your fault.......... hmmmmm
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Ey man i had the highest cahsee (high school exit exam) scores in high school out of all the male students but had a 0.333 GPA. How'd i do that? Im just a smart guy with a problem following orders.

Problem with public schools is you are trained to use one side of your brain the side that follows patterns and such
 
Hucklberry

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Our area public school boasts a 97% graduation rate but the numbers is skewd. By the time a student gets to his or her senior year the school system has already weeded out the ones with poor grades or social problems and placed them in alternative education programs. These kids are not counted in the overall graduation rates they are so proud of. In real terms our neighborhood had 8 kids start in grade school all at the same time, 12 years later 2 walked down the isle and received their diplomas. Sad but true.
 
Padawanbater2

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13 minutes in, this shit was written in 1986...

We've had twenty-fucking-six years since this man gave this speech...

Yep, that's the last of my hope for humanity...
 
Padawanbater2

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Matthew Rapley said:
Public schools are sub-standard ... close them all down.

If you want to educate your kids, pay for private education.

... that's the way forward.
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This is completely unrealistic. I would estimate 75% of people would not send their kids to private schools, as they couldn't afford them (because fuck private schools and their greedy attitudes) or couldn't/wouldn't get them there themselves minus the public transit system. Which would result in more, dumber people.



The answer is real education in public schools. Not the sugarcoated "no child left behind" bullshit that's going on now. I could clean up public education in 2 months, the problem is that a smart population is bad for economic growth, military recruits and subservient theistic retards.

Fuck I hate this country...
 
tomahawk2406

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PrivateEye6 said:
Ey man i had the highest cahsee (high school exit exam) scores in high school out of all the male students but had a 0.333 GPA. How'd i do that? Im just a smart guy with a problem following orders.

Problem with public schools is you are trained to use one side of your brain the side that follows patterns and such
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your not smart if you GPA was .333 bro. i hate to break that to you.
 
Padawanbater2

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PrivateEye6 said:
Ey man i had the highest cahsee (high school exit exam) scores in high school out of all the male students but had a 0.333 GPA. How'd i do that? Im just a smart guy with a problem following orders.

Problem with public schools is you are trained to use one side of your brain the side that follows patterns and such
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To expand on this, I had a 3.6 GPA in high school during my Jr. year but was absent from school more than 12 times (the "legal" limit), they threatened to hold me back and fine my parents if I didn't go to school every day for the remainder of the year. Why would they do this, what would be the point?

Later, I found out the reason was because every day a student isn't there the school gets less money for funding. Attendance, whether you made the grades or not, was a requirement. This is utter bullshit. This is simply and obviously something set in place for a reason other than educating the students. If a student can make grades without being in the classroom, you should shut the fuck up and let them. This isn't how reality works, the reality is, if you're ass isn't in the seat when bell rings, the school gets in trouble. This is a huge flaw in the actual education process of a child.

Conflicts of interest are extremely prevalent within the public education system. (as well as the private prison industry, the military industrial complex, government, etc. literally, every-fucking-thing).

People lie and cheat to get ahead in our society, then act like being honest and righteous is the way to succeed. Fucking lying hypocrites, and that's the best example.
 
UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
To expand on this, I had a 3.6 GPA in high school during my Jr. year but was absent from school more than 12 times (the "legal" limit), they threatened to hold me back and fine my parents if I didn't go to school every day for the remainder of the year. Why would they do this, what would be the point?

Later, I found out the reason was because every day a student isn't there the school gets less money for funding. Attendance, whether you made the grades or not, was a requirement. This is utter bullshit. This is simply and obviously something set in place for a reason other than educating the students. If a student can make grades without being in the classroom, you should shut the fuck up and let them. This isn't how reality works, the reality is, if you're ass isn't in the seat when bell rings, the school gets in trouble. This is a huge flaw in the actual education process of a child.

Conflicts of interest are extremely prevalent within the public education system. (as well as the private prison industry, the military industrial complex, government, etc. literally, every-fucking-thing).

People lie and cheat to get ahead in our society, then act like being honest and righteous is the way to succeed. Fucking lying hypocrites, and that's the best example.[/COLOR]
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i was booted from HS my senior year for not attending, still had straight A's in all AP classes, only person to get an A in AP english before they booted me.

i got them to admit the same thing, they lose money when i'm not there so i need to be there, straight A's or not.

some people here suggest scrapping the system and privatizing everything, which reeks of mental retardation allowed to roam free. i think a better solution than radically altering our system to one that has never been tried before is to look at successful models like south korea or finland and take some lessons from them, like paying our teachers fairly and based on merit, elevating the profession instead of dragging it down like the righties and the paulites like to do.
 
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