Are 1000w Gavitas still the industry standard for commercial grows?

IIReignManII

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Was thinking about staggering 1000w Gavitas and 315cmh, unless there is a better option in the LED game these days?
 

Renfro

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If you are gonna mix CMH in with the HPS you might look at the 1kW DE CMH setups.

I am currently building LED lights to replace DE HPS lights with. You can definitely get great results with quality LED. Downside is the initial cost.

All up to you to decide whats best for your grow.
 

IIReignManII

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If you are gonna mix CMH in with the HPS you might look at the 1kW DE CMH setups.

I am currently building LED lights to replace DE HPS lights with. You can definitely get great results with quality LED. Downside is the initial cost.

All up to you to decide whats best for your grow.
Thanks...I've seen a lot of people talk about building their own boards but it sounds a little intimidating for me. Looking to start a small boutique grow, maybe around 10-15 lights or so, something me and my partner can handle ourselves. I personally feel HPS and CMH are gonna produce the best flowers, but I am very uneducated on the LED game.
 

Renfro

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I personally feel HPS and CMH are gonna produce the best flowers, but I am very uneducated on the LED game.
I hear ya man, I was that guy until a few months ago. Quality LED can produce the quality and density. Cheap chinese blurples aren't it though. Good LED is expensive, stuff like Timbers COB rigs and the Quantum Boards have proven themselves as worthy competitors to HPS.
 

IIReignManII

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I hear ya man, I was that guy until a few months ago. Quality LED can produce the quality and density. Cheap chinese blurples aren't it though. Good LED is expensive, stuff like Timbers COB rigs and the Quantum Boards have proven themselves as worthy competitors to HPS.
Any opinion on the Optic 6 GEN3 COB's
 

Apalchen

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I still vote hps or hps cmh combo. If I had to worry about how much electric I was using I would just use the 1k de hps. If I had extra electric capacity I'd run the 1k de hps and cmh for supplemental as I'd still run the de over roughly the same foot print and just add the cmh as extra. Reason being that cmh puts off a great spectrum that really brings out the frost but it def lacks penetration so I'd be afraid to spread my hps out further.

Now if your really worried about electricity use and just want to grow some fire and or if you have short ceilings you can still kill it with cmh only you just grow shorter canopy. I don't think you can hit the same yield per sq ft but you could def come close to the same yield per watt or possibly even better sometimes. (This works cause can run less watts of cmh per sq ft)
 

Renfro

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Don't get me wrong, I love my HPS lights, they are still king of the industry IMO. That said I have learned that the new LED tech has really caught up. I will verify on a larger scale what I did in my tent and see how it goes but I do believe that one can get the yield per square foot and quality with good LED. For me I am doing this because of heat, not to save energy but the energy savings are nice and will pay for the lights in about 2 years. For me having the LED on my summer runs will allow me to keep my side lighting cranking all the time without the high temperature shutoff intervening. It will also allow me to add some more side lighting if I want.

LED lights save energy to make the light and they make less heat so you save energy on AC. You also need to run the room a little warmer to get your leaf surface temperatures where they need to be without the IR light to warm them up. So you save more energy there.

I totally agree that saving a little energy isn't good if you loose yield or quality to do so.
 
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