Apollo Series LED panels from Cidly

Tazbud

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(Lol)

Hey, I have a newby question. Having not seen these LED before when I got mine up it looks like this

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Hmmm, well.. they don't really.. maybe i'm pissed about nothing... they look more like 5 red in the centre, 5 orange on the outside and the other 5 green and blue...
..like definitely! Not 'kinda'! - Solid Red Orange Green and Blue!!

Is this how 10 red and 5 white can look wize growers??

(I was sure i'd been just sent something off the shelf but even the camera sees differently)
 

LEDmania

Active Member
(Lol)

Hey, I have a newby question. Having not seen these LED before when I got mine up it looks like this

View attachment 2703295

Hmmm, well.. they don't really.. maybe i'm pissed about nothing... they look more like 5 red in the centre, 5 orange on the outside and the other 5 green and blue...
..like definitely! Not 'kinda'! - Solid Red Orange Green and Blue!!

Is this how 10 red and 5 white can look wize growers??

(I was sure i'd been just sent something off the shelf but even the camera sees differently)
It looks like 5 deep red at the center, 5 red around the outside circle, and the white LEDs, 2WW, 2NW and 1 Cool white? Personally, I tend to add a few ww as supplemental, haven't tried so many white spectrum yet.
 

Tazbud

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It looks like 5 deep red at the center, 5 red around the outside circle, and the white LEDs, 2WW, 2NW and 1 Cool white? Personally, I tend to add a few ww as supplemental, haven't tried so many white spectrum yet.
Thanks mania, I was hoping someone would say that. I was expecting white like everyday cool, warm, neutral.. we'll see how she grows!
 

LEDmania

Active Member
Thanks mania, I was hoping someone would say that. I was expecting white like everyday cool, warm, neutral.. we'll see how she grows!
I have been growing under LEDs for more than 3 years, almost a pioneer of this technology, from the very expensive UFO 1W LED chips 7:2 red:blue to the 7:1:1 red:blue:orange to the so called second generation with 3W LED chips, and then to the secondary lenses generation. It was not until this Spring that I tried to add some ww into my panels. But I am still looking on this new combination only Red and White without blue, what's the result of your lamp?
 

Jeffdogg

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I know you guys like to tell us what spectrums you will be getting on your Apollo. I took the time and made something for you all, we know what spec's you want but where would you put them? :D

Apollo LED.jpg


Can also use it as an order form :D

Its not the best i know, but was bored :blsmoke:
 

LEDmania

Active Member
I am going to have an Apollo 6 customized at Cidly, aquarium model of course, not grow lamp model. That would be 72pcs LEDs in total and 12pcs at each cluster. 24 Reds run by one driver controlled by one switch, and 48pcs White LEDs run by the other two drivers controlled by another switch. I was going to have 6 Red LEDs at each cluster in those outer four clusters. But unfortunately, Sing Lee told me that's impossible, because their Red LEDs are run at 2.4V DC, (I tracked back this thread, it was 2.6V last year, and Blue and white are run at 3.6V, last year it was 3.8V). He just told me that their LEDs are more efficient now, they can have the same PAR output at a relatively lower electrics consumption.
My problem is: If I run 12pcs Red LEDs at each series, this doesn't match their LED driver 32-45V DC, 12x2.4=28.8V DC, he suggested me that I should change at least three Red LEDs into Blue or White LEDs at each seires to meet their LED driver, that would be 9x2.4+3x3.6=32.4V DC, narrowly meets it.
In that case, my customized Apollo 6 aquarium model would be 18pcs Red LEDs+6pcs White LEDs run by one driver controlled by one switch, the other two drivers run 48pcs White LEDs. But I insist on my 48:24 design. Here is his another idea: 18 Red+6 White one driver, the another switch controls 42 White+6Red.
I am considering his suggestion, what do you guys think about it please?
If I take it, I would run this Apollo 6 with a new area51 side by side, same LEDs quanities, but different consumption, Apollo 6 would be 180W actual draw, and Area 51 would be 160W.
Any ideas?
 

hyroot

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The area 51 light uses 5w white outdoor cree leds... So its a little different. Id say about Apollo 8 - a51. For same coverage.

I asked if I could run 3 or 4 reds per module and the rest whites. They said it would work. But they didn't say anything about voltage. 2 630, 2 660, 8 whites nw and ww or 3 630 and all whites. Thats about the same as you are saying. Trueg. is having great results with all whites in an Apollo 8 with some grower error.

I want to put up 2 Apollo 6's to a cmh allstart 330. A difference of 20 watts.

What is the price on the aq Apollo 6?
 
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