Anyone watching the Ahmaud Arbery murder trial?

Hiddengems said:

America was the only country in the world at the time founded on the rights of the individual. That system produced more prosperity than any system in history, and more personal freedom.

To bad security and safety are valued higher than freedom, and obedience is wrongly seen as a virtue.

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This post is a gem.

How stupid do you have to be to contradict yourself in three sentences?

Hiddengems said:

Since when is violating consent good treatment?

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So where is this lockdown you were talking about in America?

Hiddengems said:

America was the only country in the world at the time founded on the rights of the individual white male landowner. That system produced more prosperity than any system in history, and more personal freedom.

To bad security and safety are valued higher than freedom, and obedience is wrongly seen as a virtue.

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Fixed.

Budley Doright said:

At 130 guns per person floating around in mostly untrained/uneducated peoples hands I’d be a bit nervous to .

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i meant gun owners..so now the latest trend is carry a gun and when confronted by an unarmed individual you have the ight to kill them?

do i have this wrong?

Hiddengems said:

What if Donald trump was president deciding what had to be done to you for the "common good"?

More people have suffered and been killed for the "greater good". Collectivism always ends up with millions dead.

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it's been done.


just not with white people.

Dr.Amber Trichome said:

What was the person guilty of?

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it was a tawdry story about a guy who had suffered from chronic anxiety since childhood. The family was supportive and protective of him. The guy was in his thirties, living on public support. Had an apartment but spent a lot of time at his parents home. Not altogether well but managing. He was an alcoholic and he had some prior scrape with the law and on parole. His mother went in for breast surgery and when she came back from the hospital, the guy came to their home drunk and caused a scene started throwing shit around. Parents feel endangered enough that they left the house and called the police. When the police arrived, they treated like a crime scene. Entered the house in force, against the wishes of the parents and The guy fought back. Eventually they subdued the guy. They tazed him so he was taken to the hospital where he continued his ruckus and while resisting he managed to kick an officer. There was a laundry list of charges and we found him guilty of all of them. Menacing, assault, assaulting a police officer, violating terms of parole, I can't remember what all else.

The guy was guilty of menacing and of course violating terms of parole. The scene inside the parents house was very confused and I couldn't agree that his actions met the standard for intent, which was necessary to convict him of the assault and resisting arrest. Those were the most serious of the charges on the list. But, the instructions from the judge did not allow the common use of the word. In his court, intent was a legal term with its own definition. It comes down to this sometimes. The real world doesn't matter inside a courtroom. That world is driven by minutia, precedent, legal theory and other factors.

Hiddengems said:

Australia gave up their guns. Look at how different their government treated their people during Covid vs the USA.

You can't force millions of Americans with guns to stay in their houses. My county never enforced lockdowns.

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Righties like you are a fucking death cult.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING you fat fuckn rednecks…

All three found guilty of murder !

Pappy mcmichael, being an ex cop, should have a tough time in prison.

I sure hope nothing bad happens.

Herb & Suds said:

All three found guilty of murder !

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I never had any doubt in this case. Even a blind monkey could see they were guilty. When the defense starts talking about the murder victims toenails you know they're toast.

All 3 men in Arbery killing found guilty of murder
The jury found Travis McMichael, the defendant who fatally shot Arbery on Feb. 23, 2020 in a Brunswick, Ga., neighborhood, guilty of all nine counts brought against him, including malice murder.

Gregory McMichael, who was with his son at the time of the shooting, was found guilty of four counts of felony murder, two counts of aggravated assault, one count of false imprisonment and one criminal attempt to commit a felony.

William “Roddie” Bryan, who recorded the incident, was found guilty of three counts of felony murder, one count of aggravated assault, one count of false imprisonment and one criminal attempt to commit a felony

Both McMichaels and Bryan had been charged with nine counts: one count of malice murder, four counts of felony murder, two counts of aggravated assault, one count of false imprisonment and one criminal attempt to commit a felony in connection to Arbery's slaying.

Oh man, I had lots of doubt.

Odd disparity (if you're not very familiar with Wisconsin) in that the northern jury found a murderer caught on camera totally absolved of any crime, and the southern jury threw a book big enough to crush even the most ardent racist at those three assholes.

I'm not sure what to think of that...

Newsmax.

SomeOldGuy
When feral animals attack people they are put down, these 3 guys cornered up a feral beasty and it attacked.

WILDMAN
And that is what happens when three innocent white men R doing volunteer work picking up trash along the roads in order to keep their city clean.

glickmp
Totally racist verdict!!!!

Texas Pines
Most unfortunate. Of course, nothing would have happened had the gentleman not been stealing from homes under construction.

Richie Rich
The dead kid had a great career going fencing stolen construction site material.

SleighD
Brunswick jury will not get peace nor left alone from Black scum stealing, assaulting, murdering and raping! Terrorists BLM and Black Panthers were threatening entire city with destruction unless verdict they wanted happened!
Perhaps ignorant Rednecks thought they're buying their own safety by finding three good men guilty of murdering a long-time criminal, who stalked that neighborhood, trying to enter houses, constantly casing neighborhood, stealing stuff.
Arbery did not live in neighborhood, he lived 12 miles away, had no reason to be there, he knew no one living there. He was NOT jogging in his own neighborhood -- all LIES, not allowed in trial! Result of this clown show of a trial will be more robberies, more assaults, more murders, more rapes committed by Blacks against Whites because those filth now know they can away with it, no matter what!
Disgusting verdict! Arbery got exactly what he deserved, he's dead, thank goodness!

smokinrav said:

Odd disparity (if you're not very familiar with Wisconsin) in that the northern jury found a murderer caught on camera totally absolved of any crime, and the southern jury threw a book big enough to crush even the most ardent racist at those three assholes.

I'm not sure what to think of that...

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I think it has to do with how evenly split we are and how different the two main sides are. Flip a coin and you're in the sahara, flip it again and you're in antarctica. It's not a good sign of stability.

mooray said:

Oh man, I had lots of doubt.

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same here. I'm not giving Alabama enough credit for changing with the times.

That said, the defendants thought what they were doing was not wrong and neither did the local authorities. If that video had not emerged, they never would have been tried . Alabama still has some reckoning to do.

Fogdog said:

same here. I'm not giving Alabama enough credit for changing with the times.

That said, the defendants thought what they were doing was not wrong and neither did the local authorities. If that video had not emerged, they never would have been tried . Alabama still has some reckoning to do.

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And didn't they release the video thinking it would solidify their innocence??

Fogdog said:

same here. I'm not giving Alabama enough credit for changing with the times.

That said, the defendants thought what they were doing was not wrong and neither did the local authorities. If that video had not emerged, they never would have been tried . Alabama still has some reckoning to do.

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I actually find myself pitying them as they really thought this kind of vigilante crap was ok
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smokinrav said:

Odd disparity (if you're not very familiar with Wisconsin) in that the northern jury found a murderer caught on camera totally absolved of any crime, and the southern jury threw a book big enough to crush even the most ardent racist at those three assholes.

I'm not sure what to think of that...

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A single armed man being chased by a mob, vs a single unarmed man being chased by group of armed men. Pretty clear difference.

Herb & Suds said:

I actually find myself pitying them as they really thought this kind of vigilante crap was ok
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A vigilante stops crime, like Batman. These guys aren't vigilantes, they're murderers.